US Recognizes Jerusalem As Capital of Israel

[DarthNinja]

On 1/1/2018 at 7:21 PM, CBH1926 said:

Lot of people on these boards and around the world condem Israel for being very aggressive with the Palestine.

They say that Israel uses heavy handed tactics, occupies Palestinian land, tortures people, racially profiles etc.

People in Europe, North America, Australia etc. very often condem Israeli regime.

 

Now, it always made me think why do they act this way?

Could it be that terrorists have targeted Israelis in Israel, United States, Argentina, Germany, France etc.

Pehaps the fact that some 171 suicide attacks have been carried out against Israel, resulting in almost 2000 killed and wounded.

How many times Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Palestine have attacked Israel?

 

Could be that millions of Jews were executed by the Nazis in WW2?

Or tens of thousands of Jews that were killed in pogroms in former Soviet Union.

There were rumors that Stalin was going to send Jews to gulags but he died before that happened.

 

In the 19th century so much anti Semitic literature was distributed in UK, Germany, France etc.

Even 100 years later, people still think that Protocols of the elders of the Zion is an actual book that Jews wrote.

So many places in the USA, had clubs/towns where Jews were not allowed, Darien CT, Palm beach FL etc.

For KKK, list of enemies included blacks, Jews and Catholics.

 

Even before this, in Middle Ages and crusades so many Jews were killed and forcefully converted by Christians.

Spanish Queen Isabella expelled Sephardic Jews from Spain in the 14th century.

Jews are accused of controlling the world, media, banks, causing Bolshevik Revolution, pornography, 9/11, abortions, recession in Germany etc.

 

The only time when Muslims, white supremacists, communists and far left wingers come together, is when they talk about Israel.

I am not Jewish, but when I see how many people hate Jews, I begin to understand, why they act the way they do.

I feel for the Palestinians because they have been suffered a lot, but I wish few people would walk in the shoes of an Israeli or a Jewish person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

White supremacists coming together with Muslims? Did you really just say that?

 

On 12/30/2017 at 7:50 PM, Alflives said:

Why?  Explain please. 

Let me explain to both of you, in fact, allow me to quote a Jewish Rabbi who expressed what many Jewish leaders expressed over the past century:

 

Nazi Propaganda was Based on What Zionists Said:

 

The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!...

 

As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:

 

"It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not wish to bring about the impoverishment of the countries that we leave. At first they must not be given large fees for this; otherwise we shall spoil our instruments and make them despicable as 'stooges of the Jews.' Later their fees will increase, and in the end we shall have only Gentile officials in the countries from which we have emigrated. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies." (The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl. Vol. 1, edited by Raphael Patai, translated by Harry Zohn, page 83-84)”.

 

Full article: http://www.truetorahjews.org/naziismzionism

 

Zionists Were Spiritually And Physically Responsible For The Holocaust:

 

From its’ inception, many rabbis warned of the potential dangers of Zionism and openly declared that all Jews loyal to G-d should stay away from it like one would from fire. They made their opinions clear to their congregants and to the general public. Their message was that Zionism is a chauvinistic racist phenomenon which has absolutely naught to do with Judaism. They publicly expressed that Zionism would definitely be detrimental to the well being of Jews and Gentiles and that its effects on the Jewish religion would be nothing other than destructive.

 

This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism “the work of Satan”, “a sacrilege” and “a blasphemy”. He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people...

 

But it doesn’t end there. It wasn’t enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination...

 

 

Zionist responsibility for the Holocaust is threefold.

1. The Holocaust was a punishment for disrespecting The Three Oaths (see Talmud, Tractate Kesubos p. 111a).

2. Zionist leaders openly withheld support, both financially and otherwise, to save their fellow brothers and sisters from a cruel death.

3. The leaders of the Zionist movement cooperated with Hitler and his cohorts on many occasions and in many ways.

 

Full article: https://www.jewishamericanheritagemonth.com/zionism-2/the-role-of-zionism-in-the-holocaust-true-torah-jews.php

[DarthNinja]

23 minutes ago, Lancaster said:

Yet nowadays with a voting bloc instigating "lawfare", I'm assuming you're against that too then?

 

The China vs Caanda analogy doesn't really work as the borders of Canada are well defined (unless China goes on with their "territory since ancient times").  It will be one nation invading another nation.  

 

The Levant at that time wasn't a country, it was pretty much no man's land administered by the British (and France).  If you're protesting the existence of Israel, there are many neighbouring countries that should also be criticized under the same principle.  Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon... I guess they aren't legitimate countries either.  I mean.. they were also set up and established by the European powers.  

The China analogy works regardless if you are arguing might = "right"

 

Furthermore, while yes, much of the middle east was divided by Western powers after WWI, it was still the lands of the people who lived and resided in those lands having their own nations formed. There was no mass-migration from multiple nations around the world to displace the inhabitants through forded mass-expulsions.

 

The land was called Palestine and it was being mandated by the British. The British on the other hand were being attacked by Zionist terrorists, which is how the nation of Israel was born, on terrorism (and their leaders are proud to admit this).

 

The reason Israel was created through Britain by the Balfour Declaration was because the Zionists (through their leader agent Rothschild) promised Britain they would get the US involved in WWI on Britain's side against Germany if they were given Palestine. Zionists had no issue in perpetuating war and death to achieve their aims. 

 

People think this is about Jews or Judaism. If only they understood what Zionism truly is, what its true aims are and what is was founded upon (you can look to the post above to see what Jewish Rabbis themselves have said about this).

[Alflives]

35 minutes ago, DarthNinja said:

White supremacists coming together with Muslims? Did you really just say that?

 

Let me explain to both of you, in fact, allow me to quote a Jewish Rabbi who expressed what many Jewish leaders expressed over the past century:

 

Nazi Propaganda was Based on What Zionists Said:

 

The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!...

 

As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:

 

"It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not wish to bring about the impoverishment of the countries that we leave. At first they must not be given large fees for this; otherwise we shall spoil our instruments and make them despicable as 'stooges of the Jews.' Later their fees will increase, and in the end we shall have only Gentile officials in the countries from which we have emigrated. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies." (The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl. Vol. 1, edited by Raphael Patai, translated by Harry Zohn, page 83-84)”.

 

Full article: http://www.truetorahjews.org/naziismzionism

 

Zionists Were Spiritually And Physically Responsible For The Holocaust:

 

From its’ inception, many rabbis warned of the potential dangers of Zionism and openly declared that all Jews loyal to G-d should stay away from it like one would from fire. They made their opinions clear to their congregants and to the general public. Their message was that Zionism is a chauvinistic racist phenomenon which has absolutely naught to do with Judaism. They publicly expressed that Zionism would definitely be detrimental to the well being of Jews and Gentiles and that its effects on the Jewish religion would be nothing other than destructive.

 

This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism “the work of Satan”, “a sacrilege” and “a blasphemy”. He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people...

 

But it doesn’t end there. It wasn’t enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination...

 

 

Zionist responsibility for the Holocaust is threefold.

1. The Holocaust was a punishment for disrespecting The Three Oaths (see Talmud, Tractate Kesubos p. 111a).

2. Zionist leaders openly withheld support, both financially and otherwise, to save their fellow brothers and sisters from a cruel death.

3. The leaders of the Zionist movement cooperated with Hitler and his cohorts on many occasions and in many ways.

 

Full article: https://www.jewishamericanheritagemonth.com/zionism-2/the-role-of-zionism-in-the-holocaust-true-torah-jews.php

I certainly don’t agree with much of this, but it was an interesting (although - in parts - horrifying) read.  

[DarthNinja]

3 hours ago, Alflives said:

I certainly don’t agree with much of this, but it was an interesting (although - in parts - horrifying) read.  

It doesn't really matter if you don't agree with much of it or any of it to be honest.

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, DarthNinja said:

It doesn't really matter if you don't agree with much of it or any of it to be honest.

I agree.  

[inane]

4 hours ago, DarthNinja said:

White supremacists coming together with Muslims? Did you really just say that?

 

Let me explain to both of you, in fact, allow me to quote a Jewish Rabbi who expressed what many Jewish leaders expressed over the past century:

 

Nazi Propaganda was Based on What Zionists Said:

 

The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!...

 

As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:

 

"It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not wish to bring about the impoverishment of the countries that we leave. At first they must not be given large fees for this; otherwise we shall spoil our instruments and make them despicable as 'stooges of the Jews.' Later their fees will increase, and in the end we shall have only Gentile officials in the countries from which we have emigrated. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies." (The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl. Vol. 1, edited by Raphael Patai, translated by Harry Zohn, page 83-84)”.

 

Full article: http://www.truetorahjews.org/naziismzionism

 

Zionists Were Spiritually And Physically Responsible For The Holocaust:

 

From its’ inception, many rabbis warned of the potential dangers of Zionism and openly declared that all Jews loyal to G-d should stay away from it like one would from fire. They made their opinions clear to their congregants and to the general public. Their message was that Zionism is a chauvinistic racist phenomenon which has absolutely naught to do with Judaism. They publicly expressed that Zionism would definitely be detrimental to the well being of Jews and Gentiles and that its effects on the Jewish religion would be nothing other than destructive.

 

This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism “the work of Satan”, “a sacrilege” and “a blasphemy”. He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people...

 

But it doesn’t end there. It wasn’t enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination...

 

 

Zionist responsibility for the Holocaust is threefold.

1. The Holocaust was a punishment for disrespecting The Three Oaths (see Talmud, Tractate Kesubos p. 111a).

2. Zionist leaders openly withheld support, both financially and otherwise, to save their fellow brothers and sisters from a cruel death.

3. The leaders of the Zionist movement cooperated with Hitler and his cohorts on many occasions and in many ways.

 

Full article: https://www.jewishamericanheritagemonth.com/zionism-2/the-role-of-zionism-in-the-holocaust-true-torah-jews.php

Organized religion is so stupid. 

[CBH1926]

4 hours ago, DarthNinja said:

White supremacists coming together with Muslims? Did you really just say that?

 

Let me explain to both of you, in fact, allow me to quote a Jewish Rabbi who expressed what many Jewish leaders expressed over the past century:

 

Nazi Propaganda was Based on What Zionists Said:

 

The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!...

 

As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:

 

"It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not wish to bring about the impoverishment of the countries that we leave. At first they must not be given large fees for this; otherwise we shall spoil our instruments and make them despicable as 'stooges of the Jews.' Later their fees will increase, and in the end we shall have only Gentile officials in the countries from which we have emigrated. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies." (The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl. Vol. 1, edited by Raphael Patai, translated by Harry Zohn, page 83-84)”.

 

Full article: http://www.truetorahjews.org/naziismzionism

 

Zionists Were Spiritually And Physically Responsible For The Holocaust:

 

From its’ inception, many rabbis warned of the potential dangers of Zionism and openly declared that all Jews loyal to G-d should stay away from it like one would from fire. They made their opinions clear to their congregants and to the general public. Their message was that Zionism is a chauvinistic racist phenomenon which has absolutely naught to do with Judaism. They publicly expressed that Zionism would definitely be detrimental to the well being of Jews and Gentiles and that its effects on the Jewish religion would be nothing other than destructive.

 

This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism “the work of Satan”, “a sacrilege” and “a blasphemy”. He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people...

 

But it doesn’t end there. It wasn’t enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination...

 

 

Zionist responsibility for the Holocaust is threefold.

1. The Holocaust was a punishment for disrespecting The Three Oaths (see Talmud, Tractate Kesubos p. 111a).

2. Zionist leaders openly withheld support, both financially and otherwise, to save their fellow brothers and sisters from a cruel death.

3. The leaders of the Zionist movement cooperated with Hitler and his cohorts on many occasions and in many ways.

 

Full article: https://www.jewishamericanheritagemonth.com/zionism-2/the-role-of-zionism-in-the-holocaust-true-torah-jews.php

They are coming together in their hatred of Jews.

Kind of like WS chanting "Jew will not replace us" down in Charlottesville.

 

They would fit well with their Muslim counterparts in the Middle East.

I am not going to comment on rest of the stuff you posted, clam and Harvey have posted more credible links.

[CBH1926]

5 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Trying reading up on it...

 

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/israel/palestine

Try reading my comment again, you might get it the second time.

[Dral]

8 hours ago, DarthNinja said:

And while you regurgitate that nonsense have a look at how much of Israel has been wiped off the map compared to how much other nations have had their land wiped off the map, starting with Palestine.

 

"There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village." ­(Moshe Dayan)

 

Next you're probably going to use the term "drive them into the sea" right?

 

LoL - adorable.... so almost every nation in human history, at one point or another, has been "wiped off the map"... but, lets assume you just mean, "since Israel was established"... well yeah, they haven't yet... but not for lack of trying... most of the time when Israel has expanded it's boarders and increased it's territory, it's been in direct response to all out war that one of their neighbors started...

 

Whether Israel has been wiped off the map yet is completely irrelevant... what IS relevant is Arab nations are constantly TRYING to do this...

 

 

As for your quote, well, what they really mean is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in pace of a former Muslim village... because Arabs can be Jews, Christians and Athiests... and to be far, there's not a single Arab (Muslim) Village, that was not established in placed of Mongolian village, before a European Crusader Village, before another Arab (Muslim) Village, before a Roman Christian village, before a Jewish village, before a heathenish village.... so lets not start that conversation...

 

 

And no, I don't use the term "drive them into the sea"... maybe you should google who does...

[Warhippy]

While you were whining abput ehich sky fairy loves his idiot children the most

 

The Knesset just voted in the death penalty for terrorists and protestors.  Including certain 16 year old girls that slap soldiers. 

 

Ya...

[taxi]

On 1/4/2018 at 11:36 AM, DarthNinja said:

Israel is to blame because Israel is the cause. It's really that simple. It's called cause and effect. Israel exists and this is a reality but don't try to act as if they were created with any shred of legitimacy. Israel is an illegitimate state that was created from Eastern European Zionism through the bribery and extortion of the US on much weaker nations at the UN. This is why the problem exists. Israel was founded on the bombing of the King David Hotel where Zionists tried to blame Arabs.

 

Yitzhak Shamir proudly boats that they were "proud to be called terrorists".

 

You would never accept it if you were Palestinian or if such a thing happened to you but because you are Jewish and misled, you are biased obviously. Israel is not a Jewish state. Jews also suffered at the hands of the Zionists in order for Israel to be created.If only you could see this.

What makes a country legitimate exactly? Canada exists because a bunch of British colonists invaded indigenous Canadian people. Britain itself exists because various groups, including the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Normans, etc...., won wars to conquer it. Israel not only won their war but got legitimacy from the UN. That puts them above the vast majority of countries that exist today. 

[taxi]

12 hours ago, Warhippy said:

While you were whining abput ehich sky fairy loves his idiot children the most

 

The Knesset just voted in the death penalty for terrorists and protestors.  Including certain 16 year old girls that slap soldiers. 

 

Ya...

Get a grip...the bill needs 3 more rounds of voting before being voted in. It also doesn't apply to that 16 year old girl who slapped the soldiers, which had that happened in any other country in the world, the soldiers would not have just stood there and done nothing. 

 

Current Israeli law allows for the death penalty to be used for MURDER:

 

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Present military law allows the death penalty to be handed down for murder committed as part of a terror act, but it is conditional on the unanimous support of the sentence by the judges. Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who sponsored the bill, proposes that an ordinary majority of judges should suffice to sentence a terrorist to death. The bill also bans leniency after a final death sentence has been handed down.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.832858

 

This illustrates the major problem with the anti-Israeli side. You stifle any kind of a fair settlement by exaggerating everything Israel does to the point it's no longer remotely truthful. Somehow Israel changing the procedure for the death penalty dealing with convicted murderers results in Israel executing a 16 year old girl for slapping a soldier? 

[189lb enforcers?]

 

I am ashamed of just how dumbed-down and misled our people are about world history, especially concerning the Middle East and the supposed “God-deeded” land of Israel. 

Some comments in this forum really show off some of our Educcashin.