Toni Zamboni Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Hartnell with the attempted flea flicker on Stech was pretty funny but he is still a punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 56 minutes ago, riffraff said: I thought so. same here. this is gonna irritate many. But watching more tape I don't even think what pk did was even a punch. Doesn't matter to me what Nashville did really. It is upsetting because our team does not show the same response when our guys are targeted the same way. I am upset with our players and the culture of this team that allows themselves to be pushed around and just turns the other cheek. Like it or not, physical play does make a difference in how players perform. It makes guys shy away from puck battles, makes them rush their passes or cough up the puck and it tires guys out and hurts. No one likes to get hit. If you can't bring the physical side of the game, other teams feel free to up their own physical game. Teams right now must be licking their lips at the opportunity to run roughshod over the Nucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, DIBdaQUIB said: Doesn't matter to me what Nashville did really. It is upsetting because our team does not show the same response when our guys are targeted the same way. I am upset with our players and the culture of this team that allows themselves to be pushed around and just turns the other cheek. Like it or not, physical play does make a difference in how players perform. It makes guys shy away from puck battles, makes them rush their passes or cough up the puck and it tires guys out and hurts. No one likes to get hit. If you can't bring the physical side of the game, other teams feel free to up their own physical game. Teams right now must be licking their lips at the opportunity to run roughshod over the Nucks. One has to wonder why some players just stand there and take it. Are they given direction to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panelguy Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Where to from here?Lack of grit is a big problem with Dorset gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: One has to wonder why some players just stand there and take it. Are they given direction to do so? Some people really don't see the point in engaging in anything physical that serves no purpose, that includes reactions to douchebags looking to incite a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 13 hours ago, J-23 said: My cousin is from a different country and going to his first ever Canuck game on Friday.... Good luck explaining to them dealing with ushers and security for cheering the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: One has to wonder why some players just stand there and take it. Are they given direction to do so? The look on Stecher's face and Burmy (nor sure) was embarrassing. Neither of those guys are going to fight, I get it, but they both just dropped their heads and looked away when Hartnell took his shots at them. I don't think I've ever seen that on a hockey team...that look of total intimidation and having been whipped. I don't know how a team can play in the NHL with that kind of attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Green Building said: Some people really don't see the point in engaging in anything physical that serves no purpose, that includes reactions to douchebags looking to incite a reaction. But this is hockey and standing up for yourself and teammates does have purpose. If liberties are allowed, they will be taken...and they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, DIBdaQUIB said: The look on Stecher's face and Burmy (nor sure) was embarrassing. Neither of those guys are going to fight, I get it, but they both just dropped their heads and looked away when Hartnell took his shots at them. I don't think I've ever seen that on a hockey team...that look of total intimidation and having been whipped. I don't know how a team can play in the NHL with that kind of attitude. Stetch will chuck the mittens MMA is part of his training but Hartnell is like 3 weight classes up on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobart16 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 13 hours ago, Jaku said: Yup. It's incredible what sort of influence one player can have on a team. We miss Baertschi too. Underrated defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, DIBdaQUIB said: But this is hockey and standing up for yourself and teammates does have purpose. If liberties are allowed, they will be taken...and they were. That's not really my point, though. I was merely answering what I thought about why some people don't react to wankers. I'd love if it the team displayed a set of balls, but I also admire Stecher's unfazed headshake to the chop. The best feeling is doing that when you're winning, when you're getting blown out, well that's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 12 hours ago, Jaku said: Fair enough. These are all keys to the Canucks success and the team has obviously taken a massive blow, it's really showing in the product they've iced But, I fail to believe the Canucks would be successful without Horvat. It's become apparent that he is a key cog in driving the Canucks offense. "Successful" without Horvat wasn't a claim - but your point is a good one and I agree entirely with it - he is the key center in the lineup capable of driving some offense, so he's a huge loss regardless. Without him they may have been able to eek out some 2-1 wins here and there, but without him and those other handful of guys we're back on the M.A.S.H.tank railway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, hammertime said: Stetch will chuck the mittens MMA is part of his training but Hartnell is like 3 weight classes up on him. True Stech is tenacious and I would not want him to take on Hartnell in an actual 1 on 1 fight but is a shove back or a verbally abusive response too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 54 minutes ago, coastal1 said: Surprised? All the 'experts' were wrong before the season? I find it amazing when fans seem to think that the rebuild is done and the team should already be competitive. A rebuild takes a decade, there are no shortcuts. We are looking at another 3 to 4 years like last year and this year, at a minimum- depending on lottery luck. Edmonton would still be uncompetitive if they had not won on McDavid. This is not a pathetic team, this is a team under construction. Big difference. Settle down. We're missing several key players from the lineup. Every team has bad games, wth some very bad puck luck tonight. No needs to do the chicken little dance, and try and enlighten us with some information that isn't even true. Just like another poster pointed out Edmonton is still struggling with all the first round luck they've had. This is the result of injuries and AHL callups. Chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Green Building said: That's not really my point, though. I was merely answering what I thought about why some people don't react to wankers. I'd love if it the team displayed a set of balls, but I also admire Stecher's unfazed headshake to the chop. The best feeling is doing that when you're winning, when you're getting blown out, well that's a different story. I don't see it as a tap you turn on or off. Hockey is emotional and tribal. The pushback we all desire should be part of the culture (the way Nashville all responded to the Jake hit) and not something you make a conscious decision about. I get the whole cerebral response thing but in a game that is fast, hard and passionate, physical intimidation is real and if you don't stand up for yourself, others will take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, Green Building said: Some people really don't see the point in engaging in anything physical that serves no purpose, that includes reactions to douchebags looking to incite a reaction. Yeah, and I'm not keen to see Stecher stepping 25 or 30 lbs out of his weight class. And it was one of those things you shake your head at / laugh at - borderline hilarious and certainly one of those wtf moments where Hartnell is revisiting the toddler within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, hobart16 said: We miss Baertschi too. Underrated defensively. Baer is underrated in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, DIBdaQUIB said: I don't see it as a tap you turn on or off. Hockey is emotional and tribal. The pushback we all desire should be part of the culture (the way Nashville all responded to the Jake hit) and not something you make a conscious decision about. I get the whole cerebral response thing but in a game that is fast, hard and passionate, physical intimidation is real and if you don't stand up for yourself, others will take advantage. I understand your points, believe me, and I'm not saying I definitively endorse non-reactions or over reactions one way or the other, just that some people can absolutely turn it on or off as desired. I know I can. Granted, I've never played pro hockey, but if everyone was running around full on reaction mode there would be no control on the ice at any time. It would all just be be chaos. The biggest thing that pissed me off about last night wasn't the lack of push back, it was the lack of pretty much any push at all after the first period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooks Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, DIBdaQUIB said: True Stech is tenacious and I would not want him to take on Hartnell in an actual 1 on 1 fight but is a shove back or a verbally abusive response too much to ask? "Get some lumber in his teeth! Let him know you're there!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Nooks said: "Get some lumber in his teeth! Let him know you're there!" Jake knows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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