canucklehead80 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, coryberg said: 3.8 million reasons not to Not to mention 2.5 years too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Pass... that contract is terrible, he barely even fights anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 is dorsetts $$ off our cap hit now? he would be a cheaper grit option. he clearly doesnt score or fight like dorse but he could be a solid p/u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, 250Integra said: Will they take Gagner for Beleskey? please? Increase our cap hit by $0.65M in a trade of 11 points in 32 games for 0 points in 14 games? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Maybe we can pay them a pick once he clears to eat a portion of his cap hit. Round it off to $3 million then we can rotate him in and out of the nhl window in that 30 day grace period :D (It's 30 days right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 27 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Increase our cap hit by $0.65M in a trade of 11 points in 32 games for 0 points in 14 games? No thanks. Let me ask you, what else does Gagner bring other points? a chewed up mouth-guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, 250Integra said: Let me ask you, what else does Gagner bring other points? a chewed up mouth-guard? Beleskey would have to bring a whole heckuva lot to make up for the extra cap hit and lost offense. Belesky has 17 shots in 14 games (1.21 shots/game), Gagner has 65 shots in 32 games (2.03 shots/game). Even further, Gagner's having a lower-than average shooting percentage this year, at 4.6%, implying that he should tend toward his average, which in the last two years is 9.85%. Obviously, Beleskey is also shooting below average at 0%, but his average over the last two years is 7.29%. On top of the fact that he shoots much less than Gagner, he scores on less of his shots. Heck, Gaunce even shoots more than this guy (27 shots in 16 games, 1.69 shots/game). Beleskey is a bit better defensively than Gagner and obviously much more physical. He's basically Gudbranson, but as a forward and much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick_fan Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 So if bruins placed belesky on waivers non-roster. Does that mean they are buying out his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckForReal!!! Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 8 hours ago, Rush17 said: Maybe we can pay them a pick once he clears to eat a portion of his cap hit. Round it off to $3 million then we can rotate him in and out of the nhl window in that 30 day grace period :D (It's 30 days right?) I'm sorry but the last thing canucks should be doing is trading a pick to save some cap space. That's bad asset management. We aren't in a position to be doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I'd flip them Megna for Belesky at 50% retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I'd flip them Megna for Belesky at 50% retained. How about straight up for Louie? Yeah we get stuck with an expensive belesky for 2 years more... but we get rid of louies 4 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Odjick_fan said: So if bruins placed belesky on waivers non-roster. Does that mean they are buying out his contract? No, it just means that Beleskey was removed from the active roster. This sometimes happens when a team is at risk of going over the 23 man limit (due to a player returning from injury or acquired in trade), so the team requests “non-roster” status for another player, so they can comply with the 23 man limit, and with the understanding that they will move that “non-roster” player (usually through waivers). This is what the Canucks did with Wiercioch when they acquired Pouliot, and needed to immediately clear roster space, but didn’t have time to complete the waiver period. They designated Wiercioch “non-roster” and then waived him the next day. EDIT: I’m assuming the Bruins had someone come off IR and needed to stay within the 23 man limit? I really don’t follow Boston at all (by choice) so I don’t know what’s going on with their roster. I previously mistook Beleskey’s 2016 injury for a current one (edited that part out now), which tells you how much I care about the Bruins. But anyway, “non-roster” waivers just mean waiving a player who isn’t on the active roster. Unconditional waivers would be used for a buy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 No surprise he cleared. He looked good with the Ducks, but has been awful in Boston, especially at that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I wanted us to sign him when he became a UFA. A gritty player that will make any team more difficult to play. But he is pretty bad now and even though we have that cap space, we might as well keep it saved for future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Anyway we could pick him up then offer like an 6x5M deal to help the other useless vets in trying to convince people this is somehow a playoff team? I kid of course but I would not take a shot at Belesky at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 more years at nearly 4 mil? No thanks. Maybe if they retained 1.3mil. Puts him near the Dorsett dollar range. Figure he could somewhat bring what Dorsett brings. Although clearly he doesn't even bring that if Boston is waiving him. Unless they were really hoping someone was desperate AND very stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 19 hours ago, khay said: I wanted us to sign him when he became a UFA. A gritty player that will make any team more difficult to play. But he is pretty bad now and even though we have that cap space, we might as well keep it saved for future. CapFriendly shows the Canucks with 430K in cap space - and that's with Dorsett on LTIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just another example of a UFA signing that ended up being terrible. I hope JB is smart and doesn't sign any UFAs longer than 2-3 years until we're actually ready to contend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I'd rather trade for Brett Connolly in Washington, at least he has 6 goals, and hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 On 12/14/2017 at 3:09 PM, 250Integra said: Let me ask you, what else does Gagner bring other points? a chewed up mouth-guard? open ice hits and game-winning goals, g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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