JoshuaGuy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Coyotes are in a "win now mode"? The last place Coyotes? Not what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Okay, getting crazy now to ARI - Baertschi and Gudbranson to VAN - Duclair and Chychrun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 VAN Duclair 2nd round pick ARZ Eriksson 25% retained Hutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cramarossa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Coyotes are in a "win now mode"? The last place Coyotes? I think he meant more along the lines of they need to win some/any games at all now before they complwtely implode. Not playoff-style winning, but the moral victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Hutton for Duclair straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cramarossa said: I think he meant more along the lines of they need to win some/any games at all now before they complwtely implode. Not playoff-style winning, but the moral victory. ah yes, I see where I went wrong with that comment. But if the Coyotes want to win more games, they need more experienced NHL players. I hope JB takes a run at Duclair, I've always liked his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 LE for Duclair with Vancouver adding another prospect piece is not out of the question as they need some veteran presence, have oodles of CAP space and they did great in getting Radim back on board and LE could be their veteran presence they are missing so badly. The other piece could be someone like Holm or similar - a pretty much "NHL ready" body that they have as an asset as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, Kungfudru said: Would you trade Virtanen for him? You didn't ask me but I will chime in as NOT A CHANCE would be my response. Virtanen has upside that exceeds Duclair simply based upon size/speed/physicality. If Canucks are going to give up on JV, they better not do it before he really has demonstrated he is at a plateau as he has been their best player in too many games this year (even with limited ice time) to give up on that progression in my mind. Keeps feeling like JV will "break out" at some point soon. He many not but to see him do it on another team would hurt - unless Canucks want to trade him to Canes or Cats and then I could live with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, Kungfudru said: Would you trade Virtanen for him? Ya I think that’s the automatic link between us and then but I wouldn’t just cause I’m not ready to give up on jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Gaunce and the Goblin for Duclair and a third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Gaunce +? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Are you talking to yourself? I only talk to myself. Just made an exception for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Gaunce +? maybe they are stupid enough to just take Gaunce, analytics and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbro Baggins Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Okay, getting crazy now to ARI - Baertschi and Gudbranson to VAN - Duclair and Chychrun I wish. To get Chychrun I'd imagine we would likely have to add a high pick, 1st or 2nd as well as one of our better prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Okay, getting crazy now to ARI - Baertschi and Gudbranson to VAN - Duclair and Chychrun Won't work because analytics go against this guy all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Duclair - 22 yo, drafted 80th OA. 5'11" 185, 7-6=13/31 games Baertschi - 25 yo, drafted 13th OA, 5'11" 192, 8-10=18/30 games Chychrun - 19 yo, drafted 16th OA, 6'3" 200, 1-4=5/12 games Gudbranson - 26 yo (in 3 days), drafted 3rd OA, 6'5" 220, 0-2=2/27 This would provide ARI with players entering their prime, so they can "win more now". The numbers are similar. ARI's D Ekman-Larsson - Demers Hjalmarsson - L. Schenn Goligoski - Gudbranson Connauton Clendening Looks very good to me, plus they'd improve their LW position with Baertschi playing with Domi or Keller. Maybe VAN also includes a prospect like Lukas Jasek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritGrinder Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Find the most expendable player in our system with the best 'metrics' and fleece those jokers over there in Arizona. How has the 'analytics' been working out over there by the way? Calm down you 'analytic' folks....gotta have some fun now and then..... Just slightly worse than the "foundational", "meat & potatoes", "competitive environment" Canucks over the last 4+ seasons. And I emphasize slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 56 minutes ago, Sedinery33 said: Boucher and a 3rd I like our 3rd round picks the last few years (DiPietro, Lockwood, Brisebois, Tryamkin, Cassels), so I'm not too fond of giving up picks, especially if it's going to be a deeper draft this coming year. However if they are crazy enough to accept this deal, it would be hard to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Duclair - 22 yo, drafted 80th OA. 5'11" 185, 7-6=13/31 games Baertschi - 25 yo, drafted 13th OA, 5'11" 192, 8-10=18/30 games Chychrun - 19 yo, drafted 16th OA, 6'3" 200, 1-4=5/12 games Gudbranson - 26 yo (in 3 days), drafted 3rd OA, 6'5" 220, 0-2=2/27 This would provide ARI with players entering their prime, so they can "win more now". The numbers are similar. ARI's D Ekman-Larsson - Demers Hjalmarsson - L. Schenn Goligoski - Gudbranson Connauton Clendening Looks very good to me, plus they'd improve their LW position with Baertschi playing with Domi or Keller. Maybe VAN also includes a prospect like Lukas Jasek? I have a hard time giving Baer up simply because I think he's been fantastic in the development of Boeser and Horvat, but I think I would pull the trigger on that deal. I've always been very high on Chychrun and was super surprised he dropped to 16th OA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 baertschi nilsson for duclair minnesota 2nd round pick Gives us a cheaper top 6 potential lw. Baer is going to command how much? is he worth it? We save some cap space by moving Nilsson. I would then try to move Edler to Detroit for Mrazek and the higher of the 2 2nd round picks they have. Mrazek is a decent goalie imo, fresh start for him and he could push Marky more so than Nilsson has of late. Mrazek is only 25 and has a decent amount of nhl experience. This also allows Demko to continue developing and groom him down in Utica. Plus we would have 3 2nd round picks, so good chance we could trade back into the 1st round again for the right player if they were to fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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