Brad Marchand Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'm astounded how many people seemingly are unable to grasp what should be a pretty obvious facet of the game. 'But his hero charts says he's no good!!!' HERO charts weren't flattering to Malhotra either, but no one complained about his defensive competence because they knew how heavily AV was using him in a shutdown role. Part of why he was able to give the Sedins such a high percentage of offensive zone starts was because of how well Malhotra could absorb those minutes. Sutter is being used similarly, although perhaps not to that extreme. Whether Sutter's worth his salary might be a question for debate, but he's far from useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'm astounded how many people seemingly are unable to grasp what should be a pretty obvious facet of the game. 'But his hero charts says he's no good!!!' Road game. Boudreau likes to hard match. He started Coyle vs Sutter, Gagner vs Koivu and Staal vs Henrik. Suter-Spurgeon vs Gagner-Boeser. Boudreau calls Koivu-Granlund his shutdown line. Staal is their offensive C1. Coyle plays C3 on a line with rookie ErikssonEk. As the game went on he changed the matchups though. Suter-Spurgeon ended up playing 2 full minutes more against Baer-Sutter. I think he changed it because Baer-Sutter-Granlund were actually dangerous offensively. They had a fair bit of zone time so they had to also defend against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 hours ago, tas said: it's from almost a decade before I was born but I think it was a popular show. Yeah, it was pretty popular. The theme song was by John Sebastian..musician once intro'd by the Doors, Jim Morrison, as "a very talented guy". Always enjoy cultural references to the 70's. Those were the days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, Brad Marchand said: It's the line-matching effect. Green knows he can trust Sutter's line with the toughest defensive assignment for 15 or so minutes of even-strength ice time. That leaves every other line with easier matchups, hence why they all look better off. There will be even more improvement once Horvat comes back and Green can shelter players more effectively. Trickle-down works better than trickle-up?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 The only problem I have with Sutter is his salary, but that has nothing to do with his on-ice performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 18 hours ago, Cramarossa said: Is it too late to change my name on here to "Sutter's Balls" or something to that effect If not you can have the nic name I gave to the family (The Sutter Terriers) I use terrier because of Don Cherry’s dog the Pit Bull Terrier BLUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Nice to get that road comeback, with Vanek, Sutter (and Loui) providing the finish. Strong game again for the depth forwards: Gaunce, Dowd and Chaput - 0% ozone starts for the three of them, 75% corsi for Gaunce, 64% for the other two - only gave up 4 shot attempts in 11/12 minutes on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroSen Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 No Dorsett, Sutter, or Horvat equals much less aggressiveness and leadership. They are huge components to our team and it shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 A good game. Everyone played hard and finally got an OT win. Marky was great last night. Sutton scored in OT in his first game return from injury, wonderful! I was surprised by Edler who got 2 points. Vanek once again shown his skill. Stretch looks lots of progressing. Boeser worked good, but no points. Hope the 5 days rest will help him for his point steak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldnews said: Nice to get that road comeback, with Vanek, Sutter (and Loui) providing the finish. Strong game again for the depth forwards: Gaunce, Dowd and Chaput - 0% ozone starts for the three of them, 75% corsi for Gaunce, 64% for the other two - only gave up 4 shot attempts in 11/12 minutes on the road. Thanks for the information. That definitely supports what I saw. Those three played a really strong game. With guys carrying such a hard defensive burden, it should free up our more offensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 All things considered, 42 pts in 45 games is not that bad. Realistically, they're probably chasing too many good teams that are 7 or 8 point up on the Canucks, but still enjoy watching this team - they play the right way on most nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, TheOgRook said: Yeah very much so.. but only by certain posters. Some of us have loved him from the get go. I’ve always been a fan and never understood the hate for the guy, he’s not even overpaid for what he is under the current salary cap. 5 or 6 years ago you could consider him overpaid at this cap hit but not anymore that’s market value for a player of his ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Alflives said: Thanks for the information. That definitely supports what I saw. Those three played a really strong game. With guys carrying such a hard defensive burden, it should free up our more offensive players. They were playing agains the Wild's 3rd and 4th line and 3rd D pairing (Olofsson-Prosser). D-zone starts is not always indicative of tough competition. Sometimes it's also to get away from matchups. They still dominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, mll said: They were playing agains the Wild's 3rd and 4th line and 3rd D pairing (Olofsson-Prosser). D-zone starts is not always indicative of tough competition. Sometimes it's also to get away from matchups. They still dominated. True too, but them taking all those dzone starts means Henrik doesn't have so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper007 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, mll said: They were playing agains the Wild's 3rd and 4th line and 3rd D pairing (Olofsson-Prosser). D-zone starts is not always indicative of tough competition. Sometimes it's also to get away from matchups. They still dominated. It also shows that the wild were line matching hard, so when the canucks put out the Sutter line, the wild matched with their 3rd/4th line. Until later in the game, when they need a bit more offence. That's when the line matching changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: No sarcasm, had never heard of this. Not a clue to be honest. Was it a big deal as you hear nothing about it today. It was actually pretty funny in its day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, sonoman said: It was actually pretty funny in its day. 2 hours ago, sonoman said: It was actually pretty funny in its day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Minny is a good team. But they don't impress me like Anaheim or St Louis. Maybe it's just optiks or their fugly jersey. They just don't impress as much as I thought they would . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Canucks were very lucky, played two back to back teams in last two games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 21 hours ago, ilduce39 said: Dry off that wet blanket, Sant. Team can’t sustain prolonged Horvat/Sutter injuries but is much better than you’re giving them credit for. Look at this teams defence and goaltending when healthy, at tell me honestly that we're a playoff contender. We have at most 2 top 4 D men if you count Edler. The rest are bottom paring guys. In net, Marky and Nilsson let in soft soft goals regularly. (Although last game Marky was sharp). So basically for us to contend for a playoff spot, Horvat and Boeser are gonna have to be so good offensively that it makes up for our lack of defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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