Hairy Kneel Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Baggins said: How many has he had to take so far? Fighting never discouraged Torres or others like him. Those guys will throw those hits regardless. Just go around and get speed bagged in the face again oh ok cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Just go around and get speed bagged in the face again oh ok cool Again, did fighting ever discourage Torres or others like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Austin Watson, Malkin, Reaves, then Tampa has pretty beefy D We are looking up to each of those teams physically. And those are your small teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Baggins said: Again, did fighting ever discourage Torres or others like him? What's up with Torres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Austin Watson, Malkin, Reaves, then Tampa has pretty beefy D We are looking up to each of those teams physically. And those are your small teams. 196 lbs average for tampa bay 197 lbs average for Pitts 202 lbs average for canucks All 3 teams with same average height at 6'1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: What's up with Torres? He's simply an example for "or others like him". You seem to be avoiding the question. Third time: Did fighting ever discourage Torres or others like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 6 hours ago, TNucks1 said: hoping they sign for 2.5 each, that'd be nice. So you pay them on par with Gagner or DelZotto? what a low ball offer. They won't come back for that, it's insulting. They still produce like good 2nd/1st liners in the league, their agent would laugh at that offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Slegr said: One year for $2.5 million each, and they'd be third liners, on the 2nd PP unit. Anymore than this holds us back. We need a couple upgrades. 2.5 gives us 9 to help the team move forward.. All this market value "thorton got 8m.. " talk scares me. The have had a good first half of the season.. Like last few years they will probably slow down.. Sign tavres and kane and pray tryamkin comes back. Peterson Ju and lind guadette. We have skill coming time to move on if it isnt an extremely good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: I think we wait and decide about the trade deadline............... Then if it is unclear, wait until Draft day, and see who we get Then think about it some more until July 1st If we sign Tavares then no we don't sign them If we don't, invite them to training camp Evaluate the talent that is in camp If the talent is good enough to honestly play in the NHL, then no If the talent has still not matured, then sign them Pretty simple actually! In saying all that, they have only scored 16 goals between the 2 of them......not a lot of offense really! If the 5 million per Sedins rumour is true, than just add them up and go after Tavares. I always thought they would resign for 3-4 million one year deals if they came back, but as one poster early on said Thornton got 8 million for one year after a 50 point season.... The last thing I think anyone wants is keeping them on past their expiration date, but I wouldn't mind one more year playing with Pettersson and helping him out etc. It looks like they could challenge for 45-fifty points again this year, with three less minutes of ice time so no further regression production wise from last season, plus they played well when they needed to be the guys scoring too. I honestly don't care what we do, both have pros and cons. But one more year at most, or Tavares for no more than Kopitar money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, captainhorvat said: 196 lbs average for tampa bay 197 lbs average for Pitts 202 lbs average for canucks All 3 teams with same average height at 6'1 Is Tryamkin figured into those figures? Ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Rick_theRyper said: Anymore than this holds us back. We need a couple upgrades. 2.5 gives us 9 to help the team move forward.. All this market value "thorton got 8m.. " talk scares me. The have had a good first half of the season.. Like last few years they will probably slow down.. Sign tavres and kane and pray tryamkin comes back. Peterson Ju and lind guadette. We have skill coming time to move on if it isnt an extremely good deal. Nice dream, Tavares ain't signing here and the twins won't sign for 2.5. Kane is a bit of a mystery, so far this management group has not wanted any player with issues surrounding him Linden especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Baggins said: He's simply an example for "or others like him". You seem to be avoiding the question. Third time: Did fighting ever discourage Torres or others like him? The league responded......especially while he was a Canuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Baggins said: How many has he had to take so far? Fighting never discouraged Torres or others like him. Those guys will throw those hits regardless. Worked on Cooke. this was for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, riffraff said: Worked on Cooke. this was for a reason Cooke never changed the way he played until his suspensions got too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslundfan921 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I don't anticipate any of the prospects to be NHL ready next season (Pettersson, Dahlen, Lind and maybe Gaudette) all could use a little seasoning in the AHL adjusting to the pro / North American game. As much as everyone is super excited for the new wave, it's important not to rush the kids. So if Danny and Hank can act as one year stop gaps while teaching the youth how to be professionals on and off the ice. Why not have them back (at the right price)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 hours ago, I.Am.Ironman said: True but at the same time I don't see anyone that can step into their spot and get 55 points/season In theory? We could sign Kane, he's good for 50 +/- points (and likely more actual goals). Add Gaudette and Pettersson who you can probably count on for 25 each conservatively while getting the Sedin's sheltered ozone minutes and some pp time. Voila 100 points replaced +/-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, riffraff said: The league responded......especially while he was a Canuck. Not even suspensions discouraged him, as I already said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Baggins said: Cooke never changed the way he played until his suspensions got too long. Not true really.....Cooke toned it down and said so himself.....said he had to adjust his game. There are quotes from him on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslundfan921 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 A lot of people in this thread seem to be under the impression that just because we have money, the big ticket UFAs will automatically sign. This isn't NHL 18. Tavares isn't signing just because we offer the most money. Also, let's not discount how important it is to have the Sedins as leaders especially when the guy who is being hailed as the future of the franchise is Swedish (Pettersson and perhaps Dahlin or Boqvist if we are lucky). Having them here to help the kids develop is key to the future vitality of the franchise. Look how often the twins are cited as mentors by both Brock and Bo. More so than their on-ice productivity (which isn't even terrible) this is where the Sedins have extreme value to the Canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I think they have shown that despite their deficiencies and sloooowwww skating that they can still be effective players as long as they are sheltered and their time is limited. They are not first line players anymore and not even 2nd line players, really. They are more 3rd liners who can be deployed on the pp. If they are willing to get paid as such (and I imagine they would be if they want to play another year) then I have no problems with keeping them on for next season. They are great mentors and I feel that they deserve to be here as the team is rebuilt around them. While we have a lot of solid players coming down the pipe, I think if our plan is to ship out Vanek that having the Sedins shouldn't create TOO much of a glut and might even breed some healthy competition for players trying to get into our bottom 6. At least for one more year. After that, I feel we are going to have a glut of talented forwards and they will also be one year older. I say 1 more year, 2m each. I know that might seem low, but if you consider Vanek's point to price ratio I think it's pretty reasonable. Besides, Sedins are all class and have made so much money over the years I don't think they really care too much what they get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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