kingofsurrey Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Great news today... Is this the end of the road for the Kinder Morgan Pipeline of Tar sludge expansion ? Should Mother Earth celebrate tonight with a party. / celebration . ? From todays Vancouver Sun CALGARY – British Columbia’s government wants to restrict shipments of oilsands crude in pipelines and on railways cars in the province through a series of proposed new rules that is set to create additional uncertainty for Kinder Morgan Canada’s $7.4-billion Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. B.C. Environment and Climate Change Strategy Minister George Heyman announced Tuesday rules to limit “the increase of diluted bitumen transportation until the behaviour of spilled bitumen can be better understood and there is certainty regarding the ability to adequately mitigate spills.” To that end, B.C. will establish an independent scientific advisory panel to make recommendations on if and how heavy oils can be safely transported and, if spilled, cleaned up. Tuesday’s announcement did not specifically mention Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain expansion, which will boost the shipments of oil from Alberta to Burnaby, B.C. from 300,000 barrels per day to 890,000 bpd, but the B.C. NDP had promised to block the pipeline’s construction during an election campaign last year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Kinder Pipeline officially dead create additional uncertainty for Kinder Morgan Canada’s $7.4-billion Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. Are you sure it's officially dead? Ottawa and JT supports it. Can two parties that lost an election actually kill this? Edited January 31, 2018 by Ryan Strome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Since when does 'set to create additional uncertainty' = officially dead? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, goalie13 said: Since when does 'set to create additional uncertainty' = officially dead? I would like to take a moment to introduce you to KOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Far from dead and if NAFTA is a foregone conclusion you better hope we find new routes to tidewater because "america first" means Canadian fuel last. And as we now only have 2 refineries in all of Canada making our diesel and none making regular gas/fuel anymore if the US decides their lines are "full" we've nowhere to sell and thereby nowhere to refine. Imagine watching the price of lettuce jump by $4.00 overnight in january. Flights by 40% etc. Not dead is vastly different than " further uncertainty" but this is one line that needs to get done Edited January 31, 2018 by Warhippy 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Warhippy said: Far from dead and if NAFTA is a foregone conclusion you better hope we find new routes to tidewater because "america first" means Canadian fuel last. And as we now only have 2 refineries in all of Canada making our diesel and none making regular gas/fuel anymore if the US decides their lines are "full" we've nowhere to sell and thereby nowhere to refine. Imagine watching the price of lettuce jump by $4.00 overnight in january Thank you hip. Having pipelines to the Ocean is so important, always has been but maybe now more than ever. Wanna hear something scary, the U.S could put tariffs on OUR oil and we would have no choice but to pay it as we have no other ways or places to sell our oil but the U.S. Who also pays the lowest for oil on earth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Far from dead and if NAFTA is a foregone conclusion you better hope we find new routes to tidewater because "america first" means Canadian fuel last. And as we now only have 2 refineries in all of Canada making our diesel and none making regular gas/fuel anymore if the US decides their lines are "full" we've nowhere to sell and thereby nowhere to refine. Imagine watching the price of lettuce jump by $4.00 overnight in january. Flights by 40% etc. Not dead is vastly different than " further uncertainty" but this is one line that needs to get done I'd rather just subsidize building refineries. Create some well-paid, long-term jobs 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I would like to take a moment to introduce you to KOS. Oh, we've met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: I'd rather just subsidize building refineries. Create some well-paid, long-term jobs Great idea unfortunately many Canadians oppose that especially in B.C. We also need pipelines to the Ocean so we can sell our oil. Canada can and should be an Energy superpower. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I'd rather just subsidize building refineries. Create some well-paid, long-term jobs of the 15 remaining refineries only 2 are creating car fuel of any kind from canadian oil. The rest are processing jet fuel, oil from over seas and items for plastics and petroleum industrial usage. I 100% agree. Over the last 30+ years we've seen 20 shut down. Those 20 were the ones that created our fuel, diesel and jet fuel. Without a steady supply from Canadian sources we are beholden to OPEC and the US We need pipelines to tidewater on both coasts but we also need more refineries. Kinder Morgan might be possibly the safest line and route available in Canada as it is not making new routes nor is it doing more than increasing existing capacity. Anyone cheering for the shut down or possible stoppage of this must enjoy paying more for everything and traveling less. Because if there's a necessary evil in this industry, KM is probably the least invasive of all of them 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Thank you hip. Having pipelines to the Ocean is so important, always has been but maybe now more than ever. Wanna hear something scary, the U.S could put tariffs on OUR oil and we would have no choice but to pay it as we have no other ways or places to sell our oil but the U.S. Who also pays the lowest for oil on earth. Actually, what's scarier is at ANY point in time US lines could simply say sorry we're at capacity. Our oil would go nowhere. With the Permian basin in Texas now viable again for the first time in decades, it's the closest; easiest oil in North America. Couple that with the shale beds in the North East and really...we're against a wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Battle of 2018, Trudeau and Alberta Ndp versus B.C Ndp and greens. My goodness I will be supporting Notley and Trudeau. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I would like to take a moment to introduce you to KOS. Hang on with your deathgrip!! You are losing. Will lose!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Lol, now that I treated Strome with his own mania, I'm really curious as to what Trudeau has to say, he'll be in Naniamo VIU here in the next few days, we'll see how he placates the WC. Strome: Seriously, you're a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Western Red said: Hang on with your deathgrip!! You are losing. Will lose!! Your posts have been reported. Have a nice night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Ryan Strome said: Your posts have been reported. Have a nice night. Expected of you. WOW, what a man you are.. Standing up for yourself, when the going gets tough,,, call a mod.. WELL DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Western Red said: Expected of you. WOW, what a man you are.. Standing up for yourself, when the going gets tough,,, call a mod.. WELL DONE! Enjoy the suspension. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Ryan Strome said: Enjoy the suspension. Enjoy being what you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Ryan Strome said: Enjoy the suspension. 911 when a dog barks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Western Red said: Enjoy being what you are. Thanks, you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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