riffraff Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 2018-04-22 at 11:18 AM, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Don't forget, new double walled pipe, with leak detection and all the bells and whistles but the leak was discovered by accident. Oh and they're sorry. Thoughts and prayers to the dead environment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 2018-04-21 at 8:30 AM, Jimmy McGill said: That is one of the most biased articles I've seen in a while. I'll just pick out a few gems. "borderline illegal" means legal. So not real argument there. The "rewards" go mostly outside of BC, yet BC takes all the risk. No it isn't a constitutional crisis, it will clarify what powers provinces have. Without that we'll have endless project delays like this. Clarity is a good thing moving forward. Its beyond ridiculous to link this pipeline to high tech investment in Ontario. BC exports metallurgical coal for metal production, it burns far hotter and cleaner than power plant coal. Rob, all articles like this do is continue to try to distract from the main thing most people in BC are concerned about - safety. Nice that the article completely glossed over that eh? I also liked this chestnut: "Any country in which the national government cannot enforce its authority is a place that global investors understandably avoid." The USA says hi. Seriously, that article reads like it was written by an angry Albertan 10th grader whose dad works in the oil industry. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: All governments have a history of doing stupid things. Some are better than others but Notley is a special type of Alberta stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, aGENT said: I also liked this chestnut: "Any country in which the national government cannot enforce its authority is a place that global investors understandably avoid." The USA says hi. Seriously, that article reads like it was written by an angry Albertan 10th grader whose dad works in the oil industry. Its brutal. The linkage to high tech investment and oil left me laughing for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Some are better than others but Notley is a special type of Alberta stupid. So true. Her environmental standards and loony carbon capping efforts are a huge waste of dollars as they do nothing to appease Saudi slurpers. On 4/22/2018 at 10:01 AM, debluvscanucks said: https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=659398 Butbutbut, everything's fine. Notley wants to "find out what went wrong" in order to do better. Not on our soil. Referencing a small leak from years ago? All is well now of course. Cleaned up as always. Tadpoles taking over. 2 hours ago, riffraff said: Thoughts and prayers to the dead environment See above. It's not like landscapes are being stripped forever for windmill erections......or pristine valleys are being drowned for hydro. Are there any valleys left in BC to destroy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, mightycpc said: So true. Her environmental standards and loony carbon capping efforts are a huge waste of dollars as they do nothing to appease Saudi slurpers. Referencing a small leak from years ago? All is well now of course. Cleaned up as always. Tadpoles taking over. See above. It's not like landscapes are being stripped forever for windmill erections......or pristine valleys are being drowned for hydro. Are there any valleys left in BC to destroy? Do you get out much? (without mentioning untouched coastline) fly from rom comox to Calgary alone and tell me that isn't worth protecting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, riffraff said: Do you get out much? (without mentioning untouched coastline) fly from rom comox to Calgary alone and tell me that isn't worth protecting. It doesn't need protecting, it protects itself. BC makes parks out of mountain tops and rapes any land low enough to make a buck on. I'm a British Columbian btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, mightycpc said: So true. Her environmental standards and loony carbon capping efforts are a huge waste of dollars as they do nothing to appease Saudi slurpers. Referencing a small leak from years ago? All is well now of course. Cleaned up as always. Tadpoles taking over. See above. It's not like landscapes are being stripped forever for windmill erections......or pristine valleys are being drowned for hydro. Are there any valleys left in BC to destroy? Small leak? It was one of biggest oil spills in Alberta's history. That's saying a lot considering they average 2 a year over the last 37. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, mightycpc said: It doesn't need protecting, it protects itself. BC makes parks out of mountain tops and rapes any land low enough to make a buck on. I'm a British Columbian btw. Ok so the raping fields can be replanted like they have been for decades correct? so then said clear cut areas become contaminated....... oops! Destroyed future industry and environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, riffraff said: Ok so the raping fields can be replanted like they have been for decades correct? so then said clear cut areas become contaminated....... oops! Destroyed future industry and environment. Agriculture is the worst for the natural environment of course (chemicals, water use, deforestation, habitat, sheer volume, etc.) So called green energy all relies on further habitat destruction, especially hydro. Logging is not such a tragedy anymore with the new methods. It should be the main concern for faux enviros who are only concerned with CO2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 29 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Small leak? It was one of biggest oil spills in Alberta's history. That's saying a lot considering they average 2 a year over the last 37. Correct....one of the biggest spills and it is a minor temporary impact on a small patch of land. Put up one windmill and that land is gone forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, mightycpc said: Agriculture is the worst for the natural environment of course (chemicals, water use, deforestation, habitat, sheer volume, etc.) So called green energy all relies on further habitat destruction, especially hydro. Logging is not such a tragedy anymore with the new methods. It should be the main concern for faux enviros who are only concerned with CO2. Ok I'm not sure what is being discussed. Oil spill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Know what is also green: money. And in the end money always wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, mightycpc said: Correct....one of the biggest spills and it is a minor temporary impact on a small patch of land. Put up one windmill and that land is gone forever. Or until it blows up.or catches on fire and starts a forest fire. Edited April 24, 2018 by Violator Few extra ideas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, mightycpc said: Correct....one of the biggest spills and it is a minor temporary impact on a small patch of land. Put up one windmill and that land is gone forever. so I guess the key word there is "land" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted April 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2018 Love people who throw out red herrings, speaks loudly as to wanting to avoid the actual argument at hand. We can care about more than one thing. In the end, we should ALL be concerned about the environment and, yes, that involves many things. But each one is important and to suggest that something is ok because we're already wrecking the planet? Not good enough. Money is the driving force in this pipeline, but money isn't the most important thing in this life. We feed, breathe, drink from the land so that is the number one priority and interest. And if we're doing some other things that are contributing to the destruction of it, well they need addressing too. We don't just ignore all of them. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, mightycpc said: Correct....one of the biggest spills and it is a minor temporary impact on a small patch of land. Put up one windmill and that land is gone forever. Or, even better, we should install these on our coast and we can ship energy back to Alberta ;-) Edited April 24, 2018 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: You haven’t seen a windmill in person have you? Try spending a day beside them. You’d go crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: You haven’t seen a windmill in person have you? Try spending a day beside them. You’d go crazy. Right....and that's best case scenario. The rest of the time they sit there like motionless scars on the former natural landscape, waiting for another river to be dammed, or hopefully, a natural gas fired power plant to kick in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, riffraff said: Ok I'm not sure what is being discussed. Oil spill? You tell me 1 hour ago, riffraff said: Ok so the raping fields can be replanted like they have been for decades correct? so then said clear cut areas become contaminated....... oops! Destroyed future industry and environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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