peaches5 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 44 minutes ago, The Lock said: And there you go again making statements without backing yourself up and not even addressing a single point I made. Once again, I stand by my previous post. lol None of what you said is relevant unless you believe because he is a high draft pick he deserves more of a shot than someone else. He has not earned the right to play in the NHL who cares if he’s slowly improving there are people playing better who aren’t getting a shot because Virtanen has their spot. like I said he didn’t even look good in the AHL he didn’t deserve to be here but he is purely from the position he was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 lol if Arizona were even considering Domi for Virtanen, Benning would be driving Jake to the airport himself. People are trying to compare players on two totally different levels by using one player's best season vs. the other player's off season (even then, Max is having a far better season... go figure). That is the epitome of convenient argumentation. The only people who think Jake is somehow good enough to carry Domi's sticks are CDC posters. What a surprise. We shouldn't be proposing this trade simply because Chayka would have to be high on some good stuff to even consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, guntrix said: lol if Arizona were even considering Domi for Virtanen, Benning would be driving Jake to the airport himself. People are trying to compare players on two totally different levels by using one player's best season vs. the other player's off season (even then, Max is having a far better season... go figure). That is the epitome of convenient argumentation. The only people who think Jake is somehow good enough to carry Domi's sticks are CDC posters. What a surprise. We shouldn't be proposing this trade simply because Chayka would have to be high on some good stuff to even consider it. Is Domi having a far better season though? He's been struggling mightily. Virtanen has 7 goals playing 4th line minutes with no power play time; Domi has 4 goals playing on the 3rd line and 1st unit powerplay. I acknowledge that Domi has had two straight 52 point pace seasons to start his career, and is a better player than Virtanen. My argument is not that I wouldn't trade Virtanen for Domi straight up, it's that I would rather have both of em. I'm willing to overpay in order to have both of em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, NaveJoseph said: Is Domi having a far better season though? He's been struggling mightily. Virtanen has 7 goals playing 4th line minutes with no power play time; Domi has 4 goals playing on the 3rd line and 1st unit powerplay. I acknowledge that Domi has had two straight 52 point pace seasons to start his career, and is a better player than Virtanen. My argument is not that I wouldn't trade Virtanen for Domi straight up, it's that I would rather have both of em. I'm willing to overpay in order to have both of em. I think it's easier if we forget about their names for a sec to avoid any kind of bias: Player A: Player B: I don't see how they're even in the same echelon. Would you take player B over player A because he has 3 more goals in 2017/18? Even if player A has almost twice the amount of points in that same season? As for PP time, I don't think Jake has shown he deserves that responsibility just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, guntrix said: I think it's easier if we forget about their names for a sec to avoid any kind of bias: Player A: Player B: I don't see how they're even in the same echelon. Would you take player B over player A because he has 3 more goals in 2017/18? Even if player A has almost twice the amount of points in that same season? As for PP time, I don't think Jake has shown he deserves that responsibility just yet. It's like you ignored the last part of my post. I'll repeat it for you: "I acknowledge that Domi has had two straight 52 point pace seasons to start his career, and is a better player than Virtanen. My argument is not that I wouldn't trade Virtanen for Domi straight up, it's that I would rather have both of em." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, NaveJoseph said: It's like you ignored the last part of my post. I'll repeat it for you: "I acknowledge that Domi has had two straight 52 point pace seasons to start his career, and is a better player than Virtanen. My argument is not that I wouldn't trade Virtanen for Domi straight up, it's that I would rather have both of em." I like your acquisitive nature. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, NaveJoseph said: It's like you ignored the last part of my post. I'll repeat it for you: "I acknowledge that Domi has had two straight 52 point pace seasons to start his career, and is a better player than Virtanen. My argument is not that I wouldn't trade Virtanen for Domi straight up, it's that I would rather have both of em." I was more or less responding to your first two lines. Is Domi having a better season? Short answer would be yes. I'd also like to have everyone but in order to get something, we'd have to give something up in return. Packaging up Virtanen in a deal for Domi would hardly be the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, guntrix said: I was more or less responding to your first two lines. Is Domi having a better season? Short answer would be yes. I'd also like to have everyone but in order to get something, we'd have to give something up in return. Packaging up Virtanen in a deal for Domi would hardly be the end of the world. Virtanen is more valuable to me than Domi. His speed and strength is game breaking and a huge asset in the playoffs. We have a lot of small playmakers in our system, we don’t need another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Great 8 said: Virtanen is more valuable to me than Domi. His speed and strength is game breaking and a huge asset in the playoffs. We have a lot of small playmakers in our system, we don’t need another. Tonight Jake showed his speed, strength, and skill on that Dowd goal. He pretty much carried Krug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypocritical Cranium Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 6 hours ago, peaches5 said: He is hardly playing. Like I said Reid Boucher is getting more ice time than him currently. So, we've established you don't like Jake Virtanen. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 You see how Virtanen played tonight? That's what he's capable of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, NaveJoseph said: You see how Virtanen played tonight? That's what he's capable of doing. Yeah but he’s not so many others players we could have picked so he sucks and JB sucks. Says half of cdc. Love 18 and can’t wait to see him in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Salacious Crumb said: Love 18 and can’t wait to see him in a couple of years. That's the thing, in a couple of years he could be a beast... Sure he looks lost out there sometimes, but so did Neely. Those end to end rushes and thundering hits he flashes could become much more frequent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Domi downs Kesler with one punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Really hope the nucks are looking at domi and not maroon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezRG Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Ahh I love the CDC lowball offers. Domi is a sick player. Trade tanev for a late first rounder and a defensive prospect. late first rounder + goldoblin and Dahlen for Max domi and we probably wouldn’t get him because I’m sure someone else would offer more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalman Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, IbanezRG said: Ahh I love the CDC lowball offers. Domi is a sick player. Trade tanev for a late first rounder and a defensive prospect. late first rounder + goldoblin and Dahlen for Max domi and we probably wouldn’t get him because I’m sure someone else would offer more. Get real. So in your mind domi is worth considerably more than Tanev??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezRG Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jackalman said: Get real. So in your mind domi is worth considerably more than Tanev??? The only difference in the trade is that Phx gets two non NHL players instead of one like we would in the Tanev deal in my fantasy land. not what I would consider “considerably” more, but at this stage in our rebuild, domi would be far more valuable over tanev, or dahlen, or goldy, so yeah, I’d bet to win to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalman Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, IbanezRG said: The only difference in the trade is that Phx gets two non NHL players instead of one like we would in the Tanev deal in my fantasy land. not what I would consider “considerably” more, but at this stage in our rebuild, domi would be far more valuable over tanev, or dahlen, or goldy, so yeah, I’d bet to win to get him. So you are ok with trading tanev, goldy, and dahlen for domi and a d prospect. That better be one hell of a defensive prospect is all I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezRG Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jackalman said: So you are ok with trading tanev, goldy, and dahlen for domi and a d prospect. That better be one hell of a defensive prospect is all I can say. We still get the best player in the deal so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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