ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: it has. My brother owns a food service business there, he's told me that wages are not the issue, its finding the skilled labour in the first place. People adjusted to the slightly higher prices there just fine. No offense but your brother is one person he doesn’t represent the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: No offense but your brother is one person he doesn’t represent the country. thats true, he doesn't. He just happens to have direct experience in what we're talking about.... but besides the personal anecdote the Aussies just approved another significant raise of the min wage. If it wasn't working they wouldn't be doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: thats true, he doesn't. He just happens to have direct experience in what we're talking about.... but besides the personal anecdote the Aussies just approved another significant raise of the min wage. If it wasn't working they wouldn't be doing that. Sure but that’s like kos saying surrey is the best city in B.C. because he’s got direct experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Sure but that’s like kos saying surrey is the best city in B.C. because he’s got direct experience. no its like an actual business person in Australia providing an opinion but hey whatever floats your boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, riffraff said: A fool is soon separated from his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: thats true, he doesn't. He just happens to have direct experience in what we're talking about.... but besides the personal anecdote the Aussies just approved another significant raise of the min wage. If it wasn't working they wouldn't be doing that. 100 % true. Your brother sounds like a smart guy. Sad that so many BCers think that having a poverty cheap labour sources is actually beneficial to our economy / society.... I guess Greed is a tough habit to break in BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: no its like an actual business person in Australia providing an opinion but hey whatever floats your boat Again one person in a population of 24 millions means about a much as your opinion does. zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Again one person in a population of 24 millions means about a much as your opinion does. zero. Actually it does count for something... and actually it counts more than your opinion living here in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Again one person in a population of 24 millions means about a much as your opinion does. zero. yah ok its been working well for years in Australia and you take this tack. Maybe move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: 100 % true. Your brother sounds like a smart guy. Sad that so many BCers think that having a poverty cheap labour sources is actually beneficial to our economy / society.... I guess Greed is a tough habit to break in BC actually he's kind of a jerk but he is good at what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/8/2018 at 2:31 PM, Tortorella's Rant said: Pretty sad how so many people are against this. Maybe if they were paid more too, they wouldn't whine about how some pipply faced weasel brewing their coffee makes 15 an hour. Quite frankly most of us should probably be paid more if you look at trends of the cost of everything else increasing and wages have generally stagnated. sad thing is though, there's a direct correlation between increasing minimum wage and youth unemployment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 2:22 AM, Warhippy said: Literally nothing that wasn't already announced by both parties pre-election. Not a big deal, at least the increases are gradual. And for anyone who thinks raising minimum wage is entirely bad, if your business cannot survive unless you're paying people the bare minimum that's not a wage issue, that's a you issue do you have your own business war hippy? simple yes no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Lancaster said: What about people who currently get $15? Shouldn't their pay be bumped up to $20? it doesn't. I recall working for NCIX, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: What kind of evil human being thinks its a good idea to have kids if they can't afford to feed themselves already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Mattrek said: This is a perfect example of what's wrong and the thought of "I've seen some people be lazy or make bad spending choices, so it's people's fault they're falling behind in life" is absolute bs. For the love of god (this goes not just to you, but everyone) stop equating your personal experience to that's what it must be like for everyone or at least the vast majority. It's not true and it's disingenuous to say so based on the facts of poverty. I wonder how many multi-millionaires go broke because of bad spending decisions? People who make bad decisions are in every goddamn income bracket, it's not just the "lazy poor". Stop blaming the poor for the situation they are in, I'm sick and bloody tired of it. Facts of poverty? Ones like this? https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/ Quote In addition to the thousands of local and national programs that aim to help young people avoid these life-altering problems, we should figure out more ways to convince young people that their decisions will greatly influence whether they avoid poverty and enter the middle class. Let politicians, schoolteachers and administrators, community leaders, ministers and parents drill into children the message that in a free society, they enter adulthood with three major responsibilities: at least finish high school, get a full-time job and wait until age 21 to get married and have children. Our research shows that of American adults who followed these three simple rules, only about 2 percent are in poverty and nearly 75 percent have joined the middle class (defined as earning around $55,000 or more per year). There are surely influences other than these principles at play, but following them guides a young adult away from poverty and toward the middle class. What riffraff said was true, not sure why you are so emotional about facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: yah ok its been working well for years in Australia and you take this tack. Maybe move on. And Canada seems to be doing ok. Infact better than Australia in quality of life. Hhmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Raising the minimum wage makes no sense because if wages go up, prices of goods and services will go up, perhaps not right away, but eventually because businesses must cover their costs. Alternatively, businesses can cut $&!#s or lower benefits like Tim Horton did. So if prices of goods and services go up, how can poor people be any further ahead? They earn more but the cost of living has gone up. Perhaps, the answer to poverty is a guaranteed annual income. Instead of putting the burden on businesses to erase poverty, let government do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, DonLever said: Raising the minimum wage makes no sense because if wages go up, prices of goods and services will go up, perhaps not right away, but eventually because businesses must cover their costs. Alternatively, businesses can cut $&!#s or lower benefits like Tim Horton did. So if prices of goods and services go up, how can poor people be any further ahead? They earn more but the cost of living has gone up. Perhaps, the answer to poverty is a guaranteed annual income. Instead of putting the burden on businesses to erasing poverty, let government do it. And they pay more taxes now... which might be a reason why government likes the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Let the free market dictate the wage, not the government telling us what minimum wage should be. Business will end up paying more salary and their goal is to make profit and if their profit is smaller, higher chance that they will cut the payroll and/or move their business elsewhere. If workers that is not of minimum wage doesn't see their salary increase, their motivation will not be very high, therefore creating issues in the workforce all over the province. If the government wants to increase minimum wages, they better cut some taxes so that they can afford paying workers as a trade-off. They wanted more of your slice with the tax dollars even if the cut is not huge, more salary you pay, the higher taxes you will end up paying, hurting workers and business altogether the more revenue from the taxes via the minimum wage, worst the government spending will be. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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