Roberts Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Quote Erik Karlsson's time as a member of the Ottawa Senators could be near an end, as the team is reportedly open to the idea of trading the captain ahead of the deadline, according to TSN's Bob McKenzie. "The reality is Ottawa Senators general manager Pierre Dorion has been, and still is, engaged in some level of trade dialogue for Karlsson with multiple NHL teams, certainly more than a half-dozen," wrote McKenzie. McKenzie notes that to the best of his knowledge, the team has not received any formal offers for Karlsson, and in conversations about him, Dorion has laid out the defenseman's potential price. That asking price is reportedly between five and seven pieces, a package that McKenzie says would include "some combination of good, young roster players, top prospects, and first-round picks." The Senators have reportedly also informed teams that landing Karlsson would require fewer notable pieces if their trade partner took on Bobby Ryan's contract as well. A deal for Karlsson would be more than just a rental, as the two-time Norris Trophy winner is under contract through next season at a cap hit of $6.5 million. The 27-year-old is having a down year by his standards, with five goals and 41 points in 53 games this season, but still sits tied for seventh in scoring among all defensemen - and second in scoring for Ottawa, behind forward Mark Stone. Advertisement https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1490416-report-senators-open-to-trading-karlsson-ahead-of-deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 The water begins to boil more rapidly! Be surprised if they get a package they want unless they compromise or wait until the draft. Kypreos said they want 6-7 pieces for him including roster players, prospects, and picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Karlsson should have a few more years left of elite hockey, but I think Ottawa is better off with getting some big pieces for the future. They can definitely build around Duchene, Chabot, Hoffman, and Stone. A trade of a few first round picks and prized prospects should set them up for the next 5-10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 My guess he gets traded at the draft. At that time he will have a year left on his contract and team can pre negotiate an extension. We would be in a bidding war. I cant see how we can afford the assets. The only thing I could see is if we don't win the draft lottery and we are open to trading our first pick. Or trade the pick, lottery protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Well of course, they can't be open to trading him AFTER the deadline......??? (unless they wait till the off season), but I think it's already known that the Sens may trade him. Kypreos commented that he expects Karlsson to be traded within the week. Be funny if OTT and LA just did a switch. Karlsson for Doughty lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 If we get a 5-10 pick I can see us offering a package including Tanev and the pick. My preference would be to draft Bouchard or Dobson at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Rush17 said: If we get a 5-10 pick I can see us offering a package including Tanev and the pick. My preference would be to draft Bouchard or Dobson at that point. Exactly. If we end up in that 5 to 10 spot I could see that in a package for EK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rush17 said: If we get a 5-10 pick I can see us offering a package including Tanev and the pick. My preference would be to draft Bouchard or Dobson at that point. 6 minutes ago, rekker said: Exactly. If we end up in that 5 to 10 spot I could see that in a package for EK. Guess I'm blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Guess I'm blind. Realized what I did there. Been a long day. Lol. 2 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Guess I'm blind. Realized what I did there. Been a long day. Lol. I will crack a Pil here before I write anymore . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I'm a big proponent of trading for him at the draft, but not at the trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Rush17 said: If we get a 5-10 pick I can see us offering a package including Tanev and the pick. My preference would be to draft Bouchard or Dobson at that point. Tanev and a pick is only going to be pennies compared to what other teams will involved. It is certainly going to cost something that the fanbase will hate. It's not every day that a world class Dmen is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said: Tanev and a pick is only going to be pennies compared to what other teams will involved. It is certainly going to cost something that the fanbase will hate. It's not every day that a world class Dmen is available. 1 hour ago, Rush17 said: If we get a 5-10 pick I can see us offering a package including Tanev and the pick. My preference would be to draft Bouchard or Dobson at that point. Didn't say just those 2. A package including those assets. Perhaps I should of explained myself better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Last I heard Dorion say there was no way he was trading Karlsson. Bobby Mac is perhaps the most reliable source however. Dorion needs to make his mind up. My opinion? Sometimes having a huge salary on the books can limit what a team can do with the rest of the team. Chicago may be the most glaring example with 2 salaries north of $10M. Edmonton will shortly have $21M tied up in 2 players which will hurt their rebuild. Dorion could also set his team up for the future with the haul he could get for Karlsson (now that he has a 2nd line centre ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 100% opposed to giving up our future to get him. You're looking at EP, Tanev, and our 1st and teams will still outbid us. We don't have the organizational depth to make this kind of move yet. Sens will get more for him at the deadline than at the draft as teams will have 2 playoff runs with him at a very reasonable caphit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, King Heffy said: 100% opposed to giving up our future to get him. You're looking at EP, Tanev, and our 1st and teams will still outbid us. We don't have the organizational depth to make this kind of move yet. Sens will get more for him at the deadline than at the draft as teams will have 2 playoff runs with him at a very reasonable caphit. Not to mention the amount of space Ottawa will have to retain salary. No way Canucks can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, King Heffy said: 100% opposed to giving up our future to get him. You're looking at EP, Tanev, and our 1st and teams will still outbid us. We don't have the organizational depth to make this kind of move yet. Sens will get more for him at the deadline than at the draft as teams will have 2 playoff runs with him at a very reasonable caphit. Can you see the Sens GM asking for EP, Tanev, 1st, Boeser, and a 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: Can you see the Sens GM asking for EP, Tanev, 1st, Boeser, and a 2nd. pffffftt i would never do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: Can you see the Sens GM asking for EP, Tanev, 1st, Boeser, and a 2nd. They can ask all they want, and of course they will start high. But if I am the Canucks management and they go that ridiculous I counter with Tanev and a 2nd just to be ridiculous back. No way Boeser gets dealt for anything not named McDavid, EP won't get traded either unless its more of a straight up deal for a young but more proven guy, but that is not likely at all. Our first also is untouchable unless it is #1 protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 If they're smart they're looking at NYI right now for either pre deadline or post playoffs before the draft Barzal, Pulock, (bad contract like Ladd or Clutterbuck) CGY and NYI 2018 first and 2019 NYI 2nd for Karlsson and...say Zack Smith or Mark Stone? I know people will say I am out to lunch but it's about the cost of netting a Karlsson and half the reason we NEED Dahlin because you don't trade for a 70 point defenceman and it's unlikely to see 1 piece moving in one direction alone with a Karlsson trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 They should also deal Stone to Winterpeg, for something like Roslovic & a 1st. In short order, Ottawa could have a youth-collection to rival anyone's, in the league. Karlsson??? Long ago I guessed Dallas. Could really see this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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