flickyoursedin Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I think it’s a great deal for the Oilers. Aberg buried in some pretty good forward depth on the Preds. Still young and has a great AHL resume. Wonder if Nashville is clearing out a contract for a future trade! Incoming Sedins to Nashville I know it’s not happening just let me dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, coastal.view said: not sure i agree with you on that dorian is doing a masterful job of staying in the run for worst gm and he got a new contract for his work See I had him in the running too. But I had to be totally objective here and see a few parallels before coming to that conclusion Dorion stepped in late 2016 before Murray passed (RIP) and he immediately headed that team to the ECF. He went all in and rightfully so. Aside from the Duchene trade which backfired horribly he is stepping in to a rebuild in his first full year as GM. He did quite well with Brassard, didn't do too badly on Phaneuf by shedding that 7 million. Is basically saying straight up take Ryan with karlsson or find a way to make it work thus ensuring Gms know what he is wanting Which is to shed cap by the truckload. He's still got some solid young pieces and while losing next years first hurts. Stepping in and making a mistake the size of Duchene hurts no question But weigh that against Bergevin since 2010/2011 Chiarelli 2015 And look at them vs Dorion. I won't judge Dorion for 2-3 years while they destroyed their teams for years to come Like seriously, how do you give a goalie a ten million contract? How do you manage to lose two 1st overall picks for nothing on one team and a 2nd overall for scraps on another? And looking at Letestu's playoffs last year that guy elevated himself like few others did. Just tossed him for a hope in a small winger who hasn't shown he can do it in the NHL yet. Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: I think it’s a great deal for the Oilers. Aberg buried in some pretty good forward depth on the Preds. Still young and has a great AHL resume. Wonder if Nashville is clearing out a contract for a future trade! Incoming Sedins to Nashville I know it’s not happening just let me dream. Roster limits are lifted at the TDL. That's why they are only going to be signing Fisher tomorrow. Sedins are way too slow for Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Warhippy said: See I had him in the running too. But I had to be totally objective here and see a few parallels before coming to that conclusion Dorion stepped in late 2016 before Murray passed (RIP) and he immediately headed that team to the ECF. He went all in and rightfully so. Aside from the Duchene trade which backfired horribly he is stepping in to a rebuild in his first full year as GM. He did quite well with Brassard, didn't do too badly on Phaneuf by shedding that 7 million. Is basically saying straight up take Ryan with karlsson or find a way to make it work thus ensuring Gms know what he is wanting Which is to shed cap by the truckload. He's still got some solid young pieces and while losing next years first hurts. Stepping in and making a mistake the size of Duchene hurts no question But weigh that against Bergevin since 2010/2011 Chiarelli 2015 And look at them vs Dorion. I won't judge Dorion for 2-3 years while they destroyed their teams for years to come Like seriously, how do you give a goalie a ten million contract? How do you manage to lose two 1st overall picks for nothing on one team and a 2nd overall for scraps on another? And looking at Letestu's playoffs last year that guy elevated himself like few others did. Just tossed him for a hope in a small winger who hasn't shown he can do it in the NHL yet. Crazy good argument but you overlook the burrows deal.. kinda ugly from an ottawa perspective they just waived burrows and we have in exchange one of the top wingers not yet playing in the nhl he may still not work out, but if he does, then sens will view that as a horrible trade they basically gave away an almost elite young player for a warm body and both bergevin and chia pet looked like they were making solid moves which only appear to not be solid in the past year or 2 though i really cannot explain the price contract they clearly learned nothing from the canucks luongo deal.. and price deal is even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Warhippy said: See I had him in the running too. But I had to be totally objective here and see a few parallels before coming to that conclusion Dorion stepped in late 2016 before Murray passed (RIP) and he immediately headed that team to the ECF. He went all in and rightfully so. Aside from the Duchene trade which backfired horribly he is stepping in to a rebuild in his first full year as GM. He did quite well with Brassard, didn't do too badly on Phaneuf by shedding that 7 million. Is basically saying straight up take Ryan with karlsson or find a way to make it work thus ensuring Gms know what he is wanting Which is to shed cap by the truckload. He's still got some solid young pieces and while losing next years first hurts. Stepping in and making a mistake the size of Duchene hurts no question But weigh that against Bergevin since 2010/2011 Chiarelli 2015 And look at them vs Dorion. I won't judge Dorion for 2-3 years while they destroyed their teams for years to come Like seriously, how do you give a goalie a ten million contract? How do you manage to lose two 1st overall picks for nothing on one team and a 2nd overall for scraps on another? And looking at Letestu's playoffs last year that guy elevated himself like few others did. Just tossed him for a hope in a small winger who hasn't shown he can do it in the NHL yet. Crazy Duchene is close to a PPG player since 1 January - 23pts in 24 games. It took him some time to get going. Turris over that same stretch has 6pts in 21 games and has 24pts in 44 games for Nashvile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Canadian Clay said: Not sure what sets aberg apart from guys like slepyshev, caguilla, or pujliarvi right now. think they wouldve been better off just trading letestu straight to columbus for a draft pick A draft pick over a young player who has scored 30 in the AHL? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: good argument but you overlook the burrows deal.. kinda ugly from an ottawa perspective they just waived burrows and we have in exchange one of the top wingers not yet playing in the nhl he may still not work out, but if he does, then sens will view that as a horrible trade they basically gave away an almost elite young player for a warm body and both bergevin and chia pet looked like they were making solid moves which only appear to not be solid in the past year or 2 though i really cannot explain the price contract they clearly learned nothing from the canucks luongo deal.. and price deal is even worse I didn't actually as I include Burrows in the all encompassing went for it last year statement Yes it's bad, no question. Burrows has been waived. I have no choice but to wait 2-3 years on Dorion while Bergevin and Chia pet duke it out for the Milbury award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, mll said: Duchene is close to a PPG player since 1 January - 23pts in 24 games. It took him some time to get going. Turris over that same stretch has 6pts in 21 games and has 24pts in 44 games for Nashvile. It's not always about the player. It was about the time of the Duchene trade that Ottawa's fortunes changed for the worse and the Avs did for the better He's certainly picking it up yes, but as of right now that 1st round pick should Ottawa be the team we see now last year is going to look like the same kind that net Anaheim Ritchie and Silfverberg for Ryan Regardless, I don't know enough about Aberg to overly criticize the move but if it's Chia just giving guys away again there's a history of failure to fall back on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Warhippy said: It's not always about the player. It was about the time of the Duchene trade that Ottawa's fortunes changed for the worse and the Avs did for the better He's certainly picking it up yes, but as of right now that 1st round pick should Ottawa be the team we see now last year is going to look like the same kind that net Anaheim Ritchie and Silfverberg for Ryan Regardless, I don't know enough about Aberg to overly criticize the move but if it's Chia just giving guys away again there's a history of failure to fall back on Ottawa was already struggling. There's a few quotes by Boucher who say it's not the trade but the team as a whole that wasn't playing well even before he came on board. In Colorado it was Duchene - he was professional but players were trying to build something together and knew he didn't want to be a part of it. They admitted as such that it was a relief that they could finally move on as a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, stawns said: A draft pick over a young player who has scored 30 in the AHL? Why? He's 24 years old. he's about as valuable as boucher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The Oilers 3 years in with Mcdavid and Draisaitl are just as bad as the rebuilding Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Heffy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Am I the only person who thought that Chiarelli had traded for a bottle of scotch at first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Am I the only person who thought that Chiarelli had traded for a bottle of scotch at first? Wouldn't even surprise me with the season they've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: I didn't actually as I include Burrows in the all encompassing went for it last year statement Yes it's bad, no question. Burrows has been waived. I have no choice but to wait 2-3 years on Dorion while Bergevin and Chia pet duke it out for the Milbury award all good man you have my ongoing respect for moderate and well thought out positions especially in the cess pool thread of trump i rarely comment in that thread but admire your work there cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Toni Zamboni said: le test tube Shoulda traded him to Vegas: Le Test Tube Baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Would be funny if (as someone said) Nashville got Letestu just to keep him from Winnipeg. Troll job. Aberg did have a coming out party of sorts last year's playoffs but I guess they have enough foot soldiers with Watson etc. to make him redundant and he really wasn't doing well. Wonder if he'd get more of an opportunity with the Oil though and his doggedness, speed and some talent could make him a good fit on that team. At worst a 30 point guy in his prime probably? (That is if they don't ruin him before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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