[GDT] Canucks @ Coyotes | 25.02.2018 - 6:30 PM PST - SNP | Dahlin Bowl I - The Lamest Show on Turf

[spook007]

2 hours ago, DIBdaQUIB said:

Having neither of your goalies ranked in the top 55 of the league, certainly is a factor in the team's results. 

Looks like neither of our guys were able to grab the reins as hoped. 

Think thats the understatement of the year 

[JeremyCuddles]

2 hours ago, Roberts said:

I did it 10 times and here are my 10 first pick teams

oilers

canucks

red wings

senators

oilers

coyotes

rangers

oilers

hurricanes

blackhawks

 

oilers 3 times

With all the runs I have done we really should hope to end up where Chicago is, they had the most top 3 wins of anyone. Lol

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[mll]

21 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said:

Last year was a joke, the top three lost and the middle gained better odds. The NHL likes not having a defined system, manipulation of odds, not results directly.

The scale was set before the draw.  There are 1000 combinations that are allocated.  Every team gets a certain number of combinations dependent on where they finish.  At the draw they can then verify the combinations to the numbers that are pulled.  Each team has a representative in the room when the draw happens.  For the Canucks it was Francesco Aquilini.

 

The year before Vegas the 1st team received 200 combinations of the 1000 possible (- there are 1001 combinations but 11 12 13 14 is not allocated and triggers a re-draw).  The last team received 10.  Last year they used the old scale with the Vegas adjustment - it's a simple rule of 3 to stay at 1000 combinations.  This year - they need to re-define the scale because otherwise 3rd and 4th have the same number of combinations and they can't use the old scale because there is one more team.

 

[philtbc829]

1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Thanks for your service Thomas....perhaps you can come back in the new season....wonder who will fill his spot

[philtbc829]

LOL...Nash's first game for the Bruins and they are getting spanked 4-1 by the Sabres!!

[Rocky Balboa]

4 minutes ago, philtbc829 said:

Thanks for your service Thomas....perhaps you can come back in the new season....wonder who will fill his spot

Chaput. 

 

[DS4quality]

CHOO! CHOO! Thanks for you're dedication and hard work!!!

[billabong]

It’s the right move to sit vanek glad they did 

[appleboy]

22 minutes ago, DS4quality said:

CHOO! CHOO! Thanks for you're dedication and hard work!!!

See you in the summer.

[TheGuardian_]

The Canucks injuries tonight, if any, would be extremely convenient excuses.

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

 

[Ghostsof1915]

Sadly I thought that it was Gagner that was going to do well, and Vanek would just coast. 

Total opposite happened. 

[TheGuardian_]

40 minutes ago, mll said:

The scale was set before the draw.  There are 1000 combinations that are allocated.  Every team gets a certain number of combinations dependent on where they finish.  At the draw they can then verify the combinations to the numbers that are pulled.  Each team has a representative in the room when the draw happens.  For the Canucks it was Francesco Aquilini.

 

The year before Vegas the 1st team received 200 combinations of the 1000 possible (- there are 1001 combinations but 11 12 13 14 is not allocated and triggers a re-draw).  The last team received 10.  Last year they used the old scale with the Vegas adjustment - it's a simple rule of 3 to stay at 1000 combinations.  This year - they need to re-define the scale because otherwise 3rd and 4th have the same number of combinations and they can't use the old scale because there is one more team.

 

It was the percentage of chance that was manipulated.

[canuckleheads fan]

3 hours ago, DIBdaQUIB said:

And dipietro as well. Marky had struggled since he came to the NHL.  I just don't see him suddenly finding that next level at 28. 

Demko has so far shown he has that ability to rise to the occasion and level of talent around him.  I am very hopeful he makes the jump to the nhl sooner rather than later.  Not all goalies need 7+ years to incubate.

Our goalies took a HUGE step back after the first quarter of the season.  I put that on Cloutier.  The good start both goalies had was residual coaching, or work put in over the summer.  What we see now is the fact that Cloutier is an awful goalie coach, and needs to be FIRED.  The only reason Demko is killing it in Utica is because Cloutier doesn't have much time to work with him down there.  If Cloutier is retained, and Demko makes the team next season, I fully expect him to be as bad as Marky and Nilsson

[johngould21]

11 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

 

The guy has been in the NHL for so many years. I had no idea that he was as smart a player as he's shown. Stats aside, on a good team, used properly, he could get a good cup run.

[captainhorvat]

44 minutes ago, Rocky Balboa said:

Chaput. 

 

Gross...

[Camel Toe Drag]

Just now, johngould21 said:

The guy has been in the NHL for so many years. I had no idea that he was as smart a player as he's shown. Stats aside, on a good team, used properly, he could get a good cup run.

I think so too. The fact he was able to do this without consistent linemates on a bottom tier team speaks volumes. These stats will help JB in the trade negotiations for sure. 

[DIBdaQUIB]

7 minutes ago, canuckleheads fan said:

Our goalies took a HUGE step back after the first quarter of the season.  I put that on Cloutier.  The good start both goalies had was residual coaching, or work put in over the summer.  What we see now is the fact that Cloutier is an awful goalie coach, and needs to be FIRED.  The only reason Demko is killing it in Utica is because Cloutier doesn't have much time to work with him down there.  If Cloutier is retained, and Demko makes the team next season, I fully expect him to be as bad as Marky and Nilsson

You may be right, I wouldn't know. I certainly hope that if you are right, management sees it and moves  on from Cloutier before Demko gets exposed.

[samurai]

6 minutes ago, canuckleheads fan said:

Our goalies took a HUGE step back after the first quarter of the season.  I put that on Cloutier.  The good start both goalies had was residual coaching, or work put in over the summer.  What we see now is the fact that Cloutier is an awful goalie coach, and needs to be FIRED.  The only reason Demko is killing it in Utica is because Cloutier doesn't have much time to work with him down there.  If Cloutier is retained, and Demko makes the team next season, I fully expect him to be as bad as Marky and Nilsson

Dan was hired in 16 and coached Miller last year.  Miller absolutely carried this team last season and should have been the team MVP.    So my point being which is backed up statistically is that coaches don't make that much of a difference either way.  Our goalies are not little boys learning the game.   At the start of the year goalie pundits were saying we had 2 B1 options in net, and now with the season going down the stretch they were correct.  Neither goalie is a legit starter.  Every time I watch florida i always say boy wish we still had lu - the fourth winningest goalie of all time.