ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Ottawa ‘Swedish’ Senators I’ve been noticing that an era of Swedish greats are slowly coming to an end. Zetterberg, Kronwall are 36 and slowing down, Daniel and Henrik are 37 and UFA’s (likely retiring), The king is 36, still playing good. Before they all leave this game, I figured they should all come together (like a meatball) and get one more kick at the cup. Now not many teams would be able to take on that type of roster turn over. But the Sens are in the situation that they can. Senators will be picking top 5 this year so they will be deferring their first round pick to the avs to next year which means they will have to improve their team. Here’s howthey do it; Draft Dahlin Sign The twins to a 2 year deal. Trade Ryan + Dzingel + Pageau To DET for Zetterberg + Kronwall Bowers + Anderson to NYR for Lundqvist Gaborik + Ott 5th round pick + NYR 7th round pick to Vancouver for Nilsson + Eriksson (retain 1 million). Now obviously I’m not being serious as this would be entirely unrealistic but the 2018-19 Sens line up would consist of 12 Swedish born players; Hoffman Duchene Stone Sedin Sedin Zetterberg Paajarvi Smith Eriksson Pyatt Brown White Burrows Kronwall Karlsson Ceci Dahlin Chabot Claesson Borowiecki Englund Lundqvist Nilsson Could that line up accomplish anything? Playoffs or would it be destined for another top 5 pick? Are there any other sweds they could target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Toews Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 This would by far be the slowest forward group in the NHL. Also Kronwall is corpse at this point, so him being on the top pairing kills this team. My guess is this would be a lottery team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I suspect they would be a bottom of the barrel team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 That team wouldn't win a Cup and around half a dozen players would probably retire in a year or two. What would OT do then? Trading Dzingel, Ryan, Pageau and a couple of picks, and bringing in players ready for pasture, is not a good way for them to rebuild. Fun idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: https://goo.gl/images/7LtC4V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joe-max Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Edler for Burrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I think Ottawa has their hands full right now trying to figure out if/how their most important Swede fits into their long-term future plans. After the Karlsson issues settle, who know's their direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainLinden16 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Ottawa ‘Swedish’ Senators I’ve been noticing that an era of Swedish greats are slowly coming to an end. Zetterberg, Kronwall are 36 and slowing down, Daniel and Henrik are 37 and UFA’s (likely retiring), The king is 36, still playing good. Before they all leave this game, I figured they should all come together (like a meatball) and get one more kick at the cup. Now not many teams would be able to take on that type of roster turn over. But the Sens are in the situation that they can. Senators will be picking top 5 this year so they will be deferring their first round pick to the avs to next year which means they will have to improve their team. Here’s howthey do it; Draft Dahlin Sign The twins to a 2 year deal. Trade Ryan + Dzingel + Pageau To DET for Zetterberg + Kronwall Bowers + Anderson to NYR for Lundqvist Gaborik + Ott 5th round pick + NYR 7th round pick to Vancouver for Nilsson + Eriksson (retain 1 million). Now obviously I’m not being serious as this would be entirely unrealistic but the 2018-19 Sens line up would consist of 12 Swedish born players; Hoffman Duchene Stone Sedin Sedin Zetterberg Paajarvi Smith Eriksson Pyatt Brown White Burrows Kronwall Karlsson Ceci Dahlin Chabot Claesson Borowiecki Englund Lundqvist Nilsson Could that line up accomplish anything? Playoffs or would it be destined for another top 5 pick? Are there any other sweds they could target? this is pretty awesome. Now just move the team to Malmo or Stockholm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: https://goo.gl/images/7LtC4V Sorry Sedins, but the Sylvander sisters are my favourite Swedish twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Ottawa ‘Swedish’ Senators I’ve been noticing that an era of Swedish greats are slowly coming to an end. Zetterberg, Kronwall are 36 and slowing down, Daniel and Henrik are 37 and UFA’s (likely retiring), The king is 36, still playing good. Before they all leave this game, I figured they should all come together (like a meatball) and get one more kick at the cup. Now not many teams would be able to take on that type of roster turn over. But the Sens are in the situation that they can. Senators will be picking top 5 this year so they will be deferring their first round pick to the avs to next year which means they will have to improve their team. Here’s howthey do it; Draft Dahlin Sign The twins to a 2 year deal. Trade Ryan + Dzingel + Pageau To DET for Zetterberg + Kronwall Bowers + Anderson to NYR for Lundqvist Gaborik + Ott 5th round pick + NYR 7th round pick to Vancouver for Nilsson + Eriksson (retain 1 million). Now obviously I’m not being serious as this would be entirely unrealistic but the 2018-19 Sens line up would consist of 12 Swedish born players; Hoffman Duchene Stone Sedin Sedin Zetterberg Paajarvi Smith Eriksson Pyatt Brown White Burrows Kronwall Karlsson Ceci Dahlin Chabot Claesson Borowiecki Englund Lundqvist Nilsson Could that line up accomplish anything? Playoffs or would it be destined for another top 5 pick? Are there any other sweds they could target? Interesting idea. But no. The only thing going for them would be the defence featuring Karlsson and Dahlin, surrounded by capable and promising defenders. Hoffman-Duchene-Stone first line is decent first line but I think they are relatively easy to shut down in the playoffs. You need secondary, tertiary scoring in the playoffs and when your best support players core players are 36, 37, 38, you are not going to get things done in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I actually wonder how the Sens are going to avoid giving up top 10 pick next season. Interesting thread would be, maybe it already exists, what moves should Sens make to lower the probability of giving up a top 10 pick next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: I’ve been noticing that an era of Swedish greats are slowly coming to an end. Someone disagrees with you: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, NHL'er said: Sorry Sedins, but the Sylvander sisters are my favourite Swedish twins. I see two sets of twins - something wrong with my monitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Someone disagrees with you: Didn’t know pettersson was in the same era at the twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Didn’t know pettersson was in the same era at the twins. He spans all ages. Get with the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 20 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Ottawa ‘Swedish’ Senators I’ve been noticing that an era of Swedish greats are slowly coming to an end. Zetterberg, Kronwall are 36 and slowing down, Daniel and Henrik are 37 and UFA’s (likely retiring), The king is 36, still playing good. Before they all leave this game, I figured they should all come together (like a meatball) and get one more kick at the cup. Now not many teams would be able to take on that type of roster turn over. But the Sens are in the situation that they can. Senators will be picking top 5 this year so they will be deferring their first round pick to the avs to next year which means they will have to improve their team. Here’s howthey do it; Draft Dahlin Sign The twins to a 2 year deal. Trade Ryan + Dzingel + Pageau To DET for Zetterberg + Kronwall Bowers + Anderson to NYR for Lundqvist Gaborik + Ott 5th round pick + NYR 7th round pick to Vancouver for Nilsson + Eriksson (retain 1 million). Now obviously I’m not being serious as this would be entirely unrealistic but the 2018-19 Sens line up would consist of 12 Swedish born players; Hoffman Duchene Stone Sedin Sedin Zetterberg Paajarvi Smith Eriksson Pyatt Brown White Burrows Kronwall Karlsson Ceci Dahlin Chabot Claesson Borowiecki Englund Lundqvist Nilsson Could that line up accomplish anything? Playoffs or would it be destined for another top 5 pick? Are there any other sweds they could target? Mats Sundin, Forsberg and Naslund, then they could re-unite and win the Stanley Cup like they won the gold medal in Torin. Ha ha. OR... We could do it here in Vancouver. Draft Dahlin. Re-sign the Sedins, trade Demko for Lundqvist, trade picks for Karlsson (probably three firsts and Gaudette to make them interested), trade Hutton and Goldobin for Zetterberg and Kronwall. Bring in Pettersson and Dahlen for next year. And we'd still have L.E., Nilsson and Edler. I think that makes a tie....oh yeah being in Sundin to be a player coach makes 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 19 hours ago, Fanuck said: I think Ottawa has their hands full right now trying to figure out if/how their most important Swede fits into their long-term future plans. After the Karlsson issues settle, who know's their direction? Absolutely. Asking him for a list of teams he may be interested in IF he waives must have got him thinking that resigning in Ottawa isn't the best or at least only option. He also wants and expects to be paid, a lot more than he has been, and he's earned that. Last year he was a slam dunk for the Conn Smythe even on a losing effort if they got past PIT and couldn't win the cup. He's taken a while to recover from his recent injury, which is par for the course. Next year it should be business as usual (being the most important player on his team and another Norris worthy season) but I'm pretty sure he's going to market. So the Sens will do their best to trade him. And he will sign for 10plus x 7 somewhere, and likely earn his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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