mikeyman109 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, EdgarM said: 2 players does not give us the "wolfpack" mentality which is what is needed, especially in the playoffs. I agree we had an edge in 2011, we need to figure out how to have that edge again. although some will tell you its not necessary in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: You do realize that the Canucks have been outhitting their opposition in almost every game in 2018. Green has been slowly getting that into the team and even last night against a heavy Sharks team, they out hit them and that was without Guddy in the lineup. If by physical you mean fighting - that is slowly not happening in the league at all. Not sure what you mean then? 2011 was a long time ago. Would be interested in seeing the hit stats by player if you have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, EdgarM said: It is a total different story in the playoffs. Have we forgotten 2011 already? 2011 team had almost 200 more hits that Boston did. People sleep on how tough that 2011 team was. We were injury riddled, even before the finals. Still doesn’t change the fact we need players that can legit play, scoring, defending, stopping pucks. Adding more physical players isn’t gonna get us to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, N7Nucks said: 2011 team had almost 200 more hits that Boston did. People sleep on how tough that 2011 team was. We were injury riddled, even before the finals. Still doesn’t change the fact we need players that can legit play, scoring, defending, stopping pucks. Adding more physical players isn’t gonna get us to the playoffs. Why not have players that possess both? After our heavy hitters were nullified by the refs, the rest that were left put up next to nothing in fighting back. So much so that it was down right embarrassing. Not that a Sedin could put up a fight even if they wanted to but we just went through the motions at the end of that series. I believe a team needs a balance of speed ,toughness and skill, depending on the opponent you play. If you think you are just going to get away with playing teams such as LA, Anaheim and Winnipeg with just small skilled players you are sadly mistaken. If you cannot match their play then you will be easily beatable if they know what weaknesses they can work on, especially in a 7 game series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 This season started going downhill when we lost Dorsett. He provided a lot of energy, toughness and phsyicality that no one else really had. Huge loss for this team that many don't notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Chandymen said: This season started going downhill when we lost Dorsett. He provided a lot of energy, toughness and phsyicality that no one else really had. Huge loss for this team that many don't notice. Yes a perfect example of having that balance. The good teams will take advantage of your weaknesses in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 2018-03-17 at 7:20 PM, Positive Canuck said: I've been waiting since Sedin got speed bagged 7 years ago for this team to man up On 2018-03-17 at 11:05 PM, canucksnihilist said: That is on Sedin. You have to stick up for yourself. since the marchand rabbit punch incident ,over the next following years we lost bieksa,kesler ,Hansen ...guys that comparatively weren't easily pushed around ,the team as a whole started to get disrespected namely the sedins ;ie brent burns hit , the thorton face off face wash, Duncan keith , nazem kadri, and on and on, prior to signing dorsett canucks mng failed miserably at getting a deterrent ,dorsett on his own wasn't cutting it, sestito was a step in the right direction, right idea wrong player, since 2012 up to current this team has been way to soft , the quote above is right in the sense that you had to stick up for your self ,only because there really wasn't any one to stick up for them, lets hope the new guard is a little tougher than the last 6 years of marshmellow hockey! gudbransons popularity seems split right down the middle ,say what you want but since he came the team has slowly gotten a little more respect, or a whole lot less disrespect. archie is exactly what was needed 6 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephnick Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Yeah those famously tough Pittsburgh and Chicago teams that won all those Cups by hitting people... You guys sound like Don Cherry. Dinosaurs that refuse to accept how the game has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 2018-03-17 at 7:47 PM, BlackBeard said: Id rather see some scoring, weve been having that mentality since then, look where we're at now. Im not saying that physicality is not important, but scoring should be the main priority for now. And look we just got shutdown 3 straight games. Because we have to many pussycats in our lineup and not enough dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I don't see it as being that much of an issue anymore. The team does have a decent physical element to their play now. Players like Gudbranson, Archibald, and Virtanen are more than capable of laying a hit that will change the momentum of play. I am looking forward to seeing Gadjovich on the team, and seeing who Benning signs in the offseason. This team has just as much of a need for skill though, and having Petterson and Gaudette on the team next year will be essential for taking the next step. And Dahlin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, mephnick said: Yeah those famously tough Pittsburgh and Chicago teams that won all those Cups by hitting people... You guys sound like Don Cherry. Dinosaurs that refuse to accept how the game has changed. in the last 10 years boston stands out as being a tough team , looking at the losing side , not a whole lot of tough teams which explains how pittsburg and Chicago won on skill , something the canucks could have pulled off if they were deeper and a little tougher. a confident goalie would have been nice...... 2007 Anaheim Ducks (WC) (2, 1–1) Randy Carlyle Ottawa Senators (EC) (1, 0–1) Bryan Murray 4–1 Travis Moen (15:44, second) Scott Niedermayer 2008 Detroit Red Wings (WC) (23, 11–12) Mike Babcock Pittsburgh Penguins (EC) (3, 2–1) Michel Therrien 4–2 Henrik Zetterberg (7:36, third) Henrik Zetterberg 2009 Pittsburgh Penguins (EC) (4, 3–1) Dan Bylsma Detroit Red Wings (WC) (24, 11–13) Mike Babcock 4–3 Maxime Talbot (10:07, second) Evgeni Malkin 2010 Chicago Blackhawks (WC) (11, 4–7) Joel Quenneville Philadelphia Flyers (EC) (8, 2–6) Peter Laviolette 4–2 Patrick Kane (4:06, OT) Jonathan Toews 2011 Boston Bruins (EC) (18, 6–12) Claude Julien Vancouver Canucks (WC) (3, 0–3) Alain Vigneault 4–3 Patrice Bergeron (14:37, first) Tim Thomas 2012 Los Angeles Kings (WC) (2, 1–1) Darryl Sutter New Jersey Devils (EC) (5, 3–2) Peter DeBoer 4–2 Jeff Carter (12:45, first) Jonathan Quick 2013 Chicago Blackhawks (WC) (12, 5–7) Joel Quenneville Boston Bruins (EC) (19, 6–13) Claude Julien 4–2 Dave Bolland (19:01, third) Patrick Kane 2014 Los Angeles Kings (WC) (3, 2–1) Darryl Sutter New York Rangers (EC) (11, 4–7) Alain Vigneault 4–1 Alec Martinez (14:43, second OT) Justin Williams 2015 Chicago Blackhawks (WC) (13, 6–7) Joel Quenneville Tampa Bay Lightning (EC) (2, 1–1) Jon Cooper 4–2 Duncan Keith (17:13, second) Duncan Keith 2016 Pittsburgh Penguins (EC) (5, 4–1) Mike Sullivan San Jose Sharks (WC) (1, 0–1) Peter DeBoer 4–2 Kris Letang (7:46, second) Sidney Crosby 2017 Pittsburgh Penguins (EC) (6, 5–1) Mike Sullivan Nashville Predators (WC) (1, 0–1) Peter Laviolette 4–2 Patric Hornqvist (18:25, third) Sidney Crosby Appearances[edit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I don't see it as being that much of an issue anymore. The team does have a decent physical element to their play now. Players like Gudbranson, Archibald, and Virtanen are more than capable of laying a hit that will change the momentum of play. I am looking forward to seeing Gadjovich on the team, and seeing who Benning signs in the offseason. This team has just as much of a need for skill though, and having Petterson and Gaudette on the team next year will be essential for taking the next step. And Dahlin... Absolutely... And bot Gaudette and Leipsic seems feisty... Some top end skills to follow Pettersson and Brock, and we will be getting close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just don’t draft or sign players devoid of any semblance of pushback. I can’t wait for the Naslund/Sedin Gentleman Hockey era to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, mephnick said: Yeah those famously tough Pittsburgh and Chicago teams that won all those Cups by hitting people... You guys sound like Don Cherry. Dinosaurs that refuse to accept how the game has changed. Yeah because there is the "perfect recipe for success" and you know exactly what that is. Yeah OK. And....... that skill did a number on Boston in 2011 didn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 should have drafted this man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Just don’t draft or sign players devoid of any semblance of pushback. I can’t wait for the Naslund/Sedin Gentleman Hockey era to end. I am with you on that one. If I see that little puke Kane skate around in circles in the o-zone because we have no one that will hit him to slow him down, I am going to lose it! Yeah if we get anything like an Yzerman, Linden, Bertuzzi, Scott Stevens, Messier, Lindros, Benn type players I would be thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Just don’t draft or sign players devoid of any semblance of pushback. I can’t wait for the Naslund/Sedin Gentleman Hockey era to end. its been around since gradin, sundstrome and until petterson retires............... ,i'm sure theres more from the never ending supply from the puff pastrie division......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, chon derry said: its been around since gradin, sundstrome and until petterson retires............... ,i'm sure theres more from the never ending supply from the puff pastrie division......... My first Canuck favourite was Patrik Sundström. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, Squamfan said: should have drafted this man In their own backyard, yet. That one still bugs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derr12 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I think we are a tom wilson or kassian away from having the right balance. we might have burrows 2.0 in lepsic. we have a cleaner raffi torres in virtanen and guddy can smack em around. Would be over the moon if we aquired a tom wilson and tram came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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