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2 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Yes, but their claims about this massive battle with HV were not true.

As Trump would say, it was fake news.

 

 

Some Canadian analysts wrote that the skirmish between Croatian and Canadian troops can't be called a real battle, especially if perceived through western standards in which the opposing sides are attached by fire and movement. Croats took no sweeping tank thrusts or infantry movements in order to overtake the ground held by the UN. Skirmish can only be perceived as a battle by what they call "The Balkan Standards" in which the opposing side is forced to abandon their positions under pressure from heavy fire, adding the fact that five of the Charlie company's men were reservists for who this skirmish was "a real war".[12]

Ok I get what you are saying now.

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3 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

i appreciate that

 

but i still do not see a need for any country to elevate and foster a military mentality

and make it a big part of the nation's value system

in my view creates a distortion in the national consciousness

You're painting the US with a very broad brush.  Like everything else here, you have tens of millions of people on either side of the issue.  Some want to march troops all over the world while others want to withdraw from everywhere.

 

People in Canada have a tough time wrapping their heads around a country with over 300 million people.  We aren't all alike.

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1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

:lol:

 

Online game I heard an American guy criticize a British guy and he told the British guy to learn to speak English.

He knew what he was saying I'm sure but probably thought that he was being witty.  People who are that big of twits aren't very self-aware.

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16 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

You're painting the US with a very broad brush.  Like everything else here, you have tens of millions of people on either side of the issue.  Some want to march troops all over the world while others want to withdraw from everywhere.

 

People in Canada have a tough time wrapping their heads around a country with over 300 million people.  We aren't all alike.

my comment was not aimed at any individual

it is more a mentality that is fostered and supported at the government level 

and i noted the national anthem echoes the same sentiments

 

to some extent the gravity and costs of any warfare or minimized with that approach

and i think that is a distortion

a better approach could be adopted

 

edit - and just to be crystal clear

i do like you and respect your posts as a whole

and remember the enjoyment i had watching the canucks play the sabres in a game the previous season

and you were on this forum taking all the jabs one might take from canuck fans on their board

and you took it all very well . .even though the better team won

the canadian team.. which clearly had greater goodness and all those other wonderful attributes :gocan:

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7 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

my comment was not aimed at any individual

it is more a mentality that is fostered and supported at the government level 

and i noted the national anthem echoes the same sentiments

 

to some extent the gravity and costs of any warfare or minimized with that approach

and i think that is a distortion

a better approach could be adopted

The anthem was originally a now 200 year old poem about the defense of Fort Henry.  It was never specifically written to be a song/anthem.

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If this story is true then the world can thank Mattis.

 

Trump wanted to bomb Russian & Iranian targets amid Syria strikes – report

President Donald Trump reportedly favored bombing Russian and Iranian targets in Syria, before Pentagon chief James Mattis talked the US leader out of it.

Trump discussed three military options for Syria last week with his revamped national security team, led by Bush-era hawk John Bolton, the Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday, citing sources familiar with White House decision-making.

The least expansive option included striking “a narrow set of targets” linked to what the report said were “Syria’s chemical weapons capabilities.” The second option proposed targeting a broader set of Syrian targets, including “suspected chemical-weapons research facilities and military command centers.”

Finally, the most aggressive proposal might have included bombing Russian air defenses in Syria, in order to “cripple the regime’s military capabilities without touching [President Bashar] Assad’s political machinery.”

The latter option, which would have been three times as powerful as the one eventually carried out by the US, the UK and France, was reportedly particularly favored by Trump, pressing his team to consider strikes on Russian and Iranian targets in Syria. The US president was willing to go that far to “get at the Assad regime’s military equipment.”

Defense Secretary Mattis, a retired Marine general who gained notoriety during the 2004 siege of Fallujah in Iraq, took a more reasonable stance on the strikes. He argued that hitting Russian or Iranian targets could trigger a dangerous response from Moscow and Tehran, sources told the newspaper.

However, even newly-appointed National Security Adviser Bolton, who called for Iran to be bombed and who has promoted a muscular policy towards North Korea, did not oppose Mattis’ reasoning. According to WSJ, he realized that “the most robust option might drag the US more deeply into the conflict” and felt “that was too much for his first week on the job.”

Eventually, Trump approved a “hybrid plan” that saw over 100 missiles raining down on three Syrian targets early on Saturday morning. Announcing the strikes, Washington as well as London and Paris claimed they came in retaliation for an alleged chemical attack in the Damascus suburb of Douma, which they blamed on Assad’s government. Damascus rejected the accusations, while Moscow maintained the chemical incident was orchestratedby the West to provoke the bombings.

Prior to the bombing, some senior Russian officials signaled Moscow was ready to repel inbound US missiles and target their carriers. On April 10, Vladimir Shamanov, formerly an Airborne Troops commander and now head of the State Duma Defense Committee, said the Americans “should not pin hope on their navy groups,”adding Russia could “take all political and diplomatic measures, and also military measures if such need arises.”

On April 11, Russian Ambassador to Lebanon Alexander Zasypkin warned that “Russian forces will confront any US aggression on Syria, by intercepting the missiles and striking their launch pads.”
Repelling the missile strike, Syrian air defenses managed to shoot down 71 out of 103 projectiles, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Syria’s Soviet-made S-125, S-200, Buk, and Kvadrat systems were involved in the operation. The Pentagon, however, said Syrian resistance was ineffective and had no bearing on the aerial assault. 
The attack was not coordinated with Russia, but “the de-confliction channel [between US and Russian forces] operated before and after the strike,”said Lieutenant General Kenneth F. McKenzie, the director of the Joint Staff. “The Russian air defenses weren’t employed” as Syria was hit by missiles, he added.

 

https://www.rt.com/usa/424266-trump-russia-targets-strike/

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8 hours ago, kurtis said:

 https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sQ4SL_1523978997

 

US journalist "LIVE" from Syria: Chemical attack was FALSE FLAG!

 

Take it for what it is.. Is this a real video or not ?? Seems legit... 

Best part of the video “ we were brought in with a government escort”

Yeah, legit for sure, maybe next time Russians can escort him as well.

Not to mention, that he works for that garbage network that thought Parkland shooting was staged.

 

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