Noseforthenet Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 So Cory Schneider has fallen out of favour in Jersey. We know what he IS capable of but I'm sure no one would take a chance on his salary. If Jersey would eat 2-3 mil per season of it, would he be welcomed back here? I think one of the goalies has to go, here. They were never good enough to keep the team in games often enough. Personally, I don't wanna see Demko make the team yet. Goalies take alot of time to develop and become stellar. How long did it take Schneids to make the jump. 7 years AFTER being drafted. Maybe Demko is better, but even Markstrom was stellar in the AHL and he still can't completely seem to find his footing. Maybe Jersey would be interested in a goalie swap, here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Schneider craps the bed when the pressure is on. Considering there will be little to no expectations for us to be a winner over the next two or three seasons, he might be okay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 if they take both marky and nillson we'll take schneids and his full contract get her done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underrated Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 It would be very risky for New Jersey to trade Schneider without getting a starting goalie in return. Kinkaid has been fine this year, but he's not an elite goalie and never will be. Schneider had a bad year, for sure, but his ceiling is far higher than Kinkaid's. It's a different situation that Washington, where Grubauer is likely ready to be a true #1 goalie to take over for Holtby. Personally I think New Jersey would be better off trying to get Schneider back on track next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 From potential Vezina candidate to the doghouse in a couple of years. If the NJD are willing to part with him for a bag of pucks, I hope JB jumps on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 We need to leave that era behind. Still, I'd probably consider: Van: Markstrom, Gagner NJ: Schneids(retain 1 mill, x 4 more yrs), their 2018 or 2019 1st There's a certain irony in the main Lu-piece(Markstrom) bringing Cory back. NJ couldn't be happy to send us another 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, underrated said: It would be very risky for New Jersey to trade Schneider without getting a starting goalie in return. Kinkaid has been fine this year, but he's not an elite goalie and never will be. Schneider had a bad year, for sure, but his ceiling is far higher than Kinkaid's. It's a different situation that Washington, where Grubauer is likely ready to be a true #1 goalie to take over for Holtby. Personally I think New Jersey would be better off trying to get Schneider back on track next year. Of course THEY would be. It's a stealthy move though. Plus maybe they try and get Kovalchuk back, considering the history there? Point being is, is there an appetite for this kind of move here? That is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Has he fallen out of favour with them? Or is this a quick overreaction to Game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 lol... A bad few months during a time in which he was injured multiple times, and he’s fallen out of favour? It’s a bad year. Bobrovsky and Price have done the same thing when plagued with injuries. Last year his stats were below average because the team was old, broken, slow and hot garbage. Did you not see Schneider carry NJ the first bit this season? He is still a top 10 goalie in the league. Completely unrealistic for NJ to trade him and retain money. If it happens, then Shero is the new Chiarelli. You don’t trade good players after one bad season, a la Eberle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said: Has he fallen out of favour with them? Or is this a quick overreaction to Game 1 Kikaid has been playing well. Schneider can't stay healthy. Schneider makes 6M. NJD Fans reacting saying move Schneider. Nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 When do you guys think DiPietro will be ready? I think New Jersey would want a goalie prospect in return so maybe something like Baertschi+Goldobin+DiPietro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 my wife would be ecstatic. She hasn't watched much of a game since he was traded. She's still upset they traded him then eddie lack lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 We need to move on, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Fits our timeline pretty well, but I don't want to give them any assets. For a pure cap dump, he'd be welcome. Miller last season showed how helpful a good goalie is to developing a young defensive group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I'd be OK with riding Schnieds and Markstrom 'Till Demko is ready. Wouldn't pay much for Schneids tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said: Has he fallen out of favour with them? Or is this a quick overreaction to Game 1 No. He wasn't great all year. With a 6 million cap hit for years, it doesn't look good. He didn't even play game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said: lol... A bad few months during a time in which he was injured multiple times, and he’s fallen out of favour? It’s a bad year. Bobrovsky and Price have done the same thing when plagued with injuries. Last year his stats were below average because the team was old, broken, slow and hot garbage. Did you not see Schneider carry NJ the first bit this season? He is still a top 10 goalie in the league. Completely unrealistic for NJ to trade him and retain money. If it happens, then Shero is the new Chiarelli. You don’t trade good players after one bad season, a la Eberle. If he were top 10, he would be playing in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said: Has he fallen out of favour with them? Or is this a quick overreaction to Game 1 Game 1? His last win was the end of December 2017. Kinkaid has clearly taken the net for NJ and has given up 4 goals against in the 1st game of the playoffs vs. Tampa Bay as of this second. I'd be cautious of his rapid decline this season considering he is with goalie coach Rollie Melanson who was his coach here in Vancouver when he was so promising. I don't think that Markstrom has fallen out of favor enough to justify a change this quickly, but if Schneider continues on his downward trajectory and Markstrom falls flat on his face next year, I would consider bringing Schneids in as a backup to Demko. The fellow BC grad Schneider, could push Demko to be a great goalie in his own right. Schneider a backup again. whoda thunk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, canuckledraggin said: Game 1? His last win was the end of December 2017. Kinkaid has clearly taken the net for NJ and has given up 4 goals against in the 1st game of the playoffs vs. Tampa Bay as of this second. I'd be cautious of his rapid decline this season considering he is with goalie coach Rollie Melanson who was his coach here in Vancouver when he was so promising. I don't think that Markstrom has fallen out of favor enough to justify a change this quickly, but if Schneider continues on his downward trajectory and Markstrom falls flat on his face next year, I would consider bringing Schneids in as a backup to Demko. The fellow BC grad Schneider, could push Demko to be a great goalie in his own right. Schneider a backup again. whoda thunk it. I didn't realize he wasn't even 'the guy' anymore in NJ. Checking his stats, 10 GP in 2018, 0 Wins. And his highest SV% in those losses was .900 Poor guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, canuckledraggin said: Game 1? His last win was the end of December 2017. Kinkaid has clearly taken the net for NJ and has given up 4 goals against in the 1st game of the playoffs vs. Tampa Bay as of this second. I'd be cautious of his rapid decline this season considering he is with goalie coach Rollie Melanson who was his coach here in Vancouver when he was so promising. I don't think that Markstrom has fallen out of favor enough to justify a change this quickly, but if Schneider continues on his downward trajectory and Markstrom falls flat on his face next year, I would consider bringing Schneids in as a backup to Demko. The fellow BC grad Schneider, could push Demko to be a great goalie in his own right. Schneider a backup again. whoda thunk it. Either one of our goalies, plus them eating some of Schneid's salary would probably work. Doesn't HAVE to be Markstrom. Markstrom hasn't fallen out of favour either? Who said that? I just said neither were all that good to keep us in games all the time. Would be like a change of scenery swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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