Rob_Zepp Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 6 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said: Not sure how the weights were achieved, I found it difficult to find them this year but Vancouver has 20 players under 200lbs and Vegas 13, Vegas has 9 players listed under 6'. Your chart does show that the lighter teams excel in the east while most of the lighter teams are not in the playoffs. Not my chart. From Dobber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Bo seems to be improving the most in the offseason,and he will hopefully continue that.At some point they have to decide if he gets a stacked line or is a 2C.Reminds me of the Linden years.Virtanen needs to keep elevating.Judging by the numbers and prospect status i dont see a future here for Baertchi.If EG,AE and CT stay it doesnt leave the door open much for defensive prospects to develop as the team starts to take shape.Id like to see the Canucks try and dump some older guys to aquire as many picks as they can for next years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 On 2018-04-14 at 10:47 AM, lmm said: On 2018-04-14 at 10:47 AM, lmm said: On 2018-04-13 at 3:47 PM, NUCKER67 said: A+ - Boeser A - Horvat, D. Sedin, Edler B - Sutter, Vanek, Leipsic, Jokinen, Dorsett C+ - Gagner, Baertschi, Virtanen, Tanev, Goldobin, Gaudette, Biega, Sautner C - Archibald, Del Zotto, Markstrom, Motte, Gudbranson, Stecher, Pouliot D - Granlund, Gaunce, Eriksson, Dowd, Boucher F - Rodin, Burmistrov, Hutton, Nilsson This is the most honest evaluation so far. I don't think Daniel or Edler are "A" players but I would give them a "B" I can't see Dorsett with a "B" when he missed 3/4 of the season while Tanev is more important to team wins but rates lower probably because of games missed. Vanek? was a huge minus but provided goals in games lost. No Hank. Do you really think your "D" and :F: players played enough to warrent the Caunucks finishing 6th to last? I think it's a very generous evaluation for a team that finished almost last in the league What would your ratings be for the last place teams that made the playoffs? Considering the ONLY ones with failed grades hardly played We should have at least made the playoffs with everyone else getting a passing grade don't you think? My list may closer to this A - Boeser B - Horvat, B- - D. Sedin, Edler C+ - , Vanek, Leipsic, Jokinen, Dorsett, Tanev, H. Sedin C - Sutter Baertschi, Virtanen,Goldobin, Gaudette, Biega, Sautner C- - Archibald, Del Zotto, Markstrom, Motte, Gudbranson, Stecher, Pouliot, Gagner,Granlund,Eriksson D - Gaunce, Dowd, Boucher F - Rodin, Burmistrov, Hutton, Nilsson I guess it would change if you are comparing these players to other teams same line players, as opposed to just what your expectations of these players were for the year I based mine on which players helped make the team better or stood out over the year (some were a very small sample size though) On 2018-04-14 at 10:47 AM, lmm said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, westcoast said: Bo seems to be improving the most in the offseason,and he will hopefully continue that.At some point they have to decide if he gets a stacked line or is a 2C.Reminds me of the Linden years.Virtanen needs to keep elevating.Judging by the numbers and prospect status i dont see a future here for Baertchi.If EG,AE and CT stay it doesnt leave the door open much for defensive prospects to develop as the team starts to take shape.Id like to see the Canucks try and dump some older guys to aquire as many picks as they can for next years draft. not true brock played 9 games the previous season was penciled in for utica by management but survived training camp and pre-season he was kept, but his season start was delayed by 2 games by coach green once he was in the line up he flourished and could not be removed (except by injury) he improve dramatically in the off season .. more then management predicted or expected brock in fact made the players who played with him better only vanek, in shorter but bright flashes, can boast he made players around him better bo did well. but not quite as well in the "improved players around him" category there is no doubt bo is in a consistent up tick in terms of his year to year improvement and in fact improved his game within the season when he spent time on the injured list came back stronger and fitter he will elite or almost elite and a very steady all round player but it does seem so far that the sedin influence on the younger core players about the amount of off season training that is required to realize all of your potential is rubbing off on our most important youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danaimo Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 On 2018-04-13 at 7:00 AM, Tre Mac said: I am not going to sugar coat these grades, it was a rough year. Grades are based off the whole year, durability counts: Archibald: C- Baertschi: C Biega: C- Boeser: B+ Boucher: F Burmistrov: F Del Zotto: C- Dorsett: B+ Dowd: D Edler: B- Eriksson: D Gagner: D Gaunce: F Goldobin: C Granlund: F Gudbranson: C- Horvat: B+ Hutton: C- Jokinen: C Leipsic: C+ Markstrom: D+ Motte: C- Nilsson: F Pouliot: C Daniel Sedin: B- Henrik Sedin: C+ Stecher: C+ Sutter: C+ Tanev: B Vanek: C+ Virtanen: C No A's given. Thank you for your honesty, this is probably the closest assessment of this teams performance this year. Cannot see how either goalie would get a passing mark after some bad performances from Marky and Nilsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, coastal.view said: not true brock played 9 games the previous season was penciled in for utica by management but survived training camp and pre-season he was kept, but his season start was delayed by 2 games by coach green once he was in the line up he flourished and could not be removed (except by injury) he improve dramatically in the off season .. more then management predicted or expected brock in fact made the players who played with him better only vanek, in shorter but bright flashes, can boast he made players around him better bo did well. but not quite as well in the "improved players around him" category there is no doubt bo is in a consistent up tick in terms of his year to year improvement and in fact improved his game within the season when he spent time on the injured list came back stronger and fitter he will elite or almost elite and a very steady all round player but it does seem so far that the sedin influence on the younger core players about the amount of off season training that is required to realize all of your potential is rubbing off on our most important youngsters Brock played 9 games.I cant grade his development curve from the previous years 9 games.Next season we will see .Bo has a sample size and its trending upwards bigtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFastOne21 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Archibald: C (Serviceable 4th liner and that's it) Baertschi: C (tentative start, then good, then injured) Biega: C+ (Serviceable 7th D, has big balls) Boeser: A Boucher: C (about what was expected) Burmistrov: F outta here Del Zotto: C (decent so C) Dorsett: A (Will be missed) Dowd: C- (stop-gap, no offense) Edler: B+ (CDC whip but points, hits and blocks proved otherwise) Eriksson: C- (Get healthy, keep up D work, add more offense) Gagner: D+ (Bad for money/term) Gaunce: C- (first round pick with 0 offense) Goldobin: C+ (plus is for last 10 games of season) Granlund: F (step back an understatement) Gudbranson: C- (Decent defense, no offense, some physicality, now for $4mil) Horvat: A (Good other than injury, give him the C) Hutton: D- (WTF) Jokinen: B (Solid, sign for 1 year) Leipsic: B+ (couldn't crack Vegas to being one of our best) Markstrom: C- (inconsistent but effort is there) Motte: C (Nothing special but has rare flash) Nilsson: F (Just terrible per 60 min) Pouliot: C (turnovers haunt him but creative potential PMD we need) Daniel Sedin: B+ (All the best) Henrik Sedin: C (All the best) Stecher: C (No step forward, no step back, has heart) Sutter: C+ (Overwhelmingly high D zone starts/opposition top line deployment is rough on him. + For that alone) Tanev: C- (Injuries, injuries, injuries) Vanek: B+ (Was good on ice and good mentor for Boeser) Virtanen: B (Good development over the 82 game season, can he keep it going?) Use Jokinen and a resigned Vanek as the veteran leadership along with Edler, Sutter, Eriksson and maybe Guddy(?) next season. Do not, for the love of Sedin, sign Bozak in the off-season. Sutter 2.0 but softer and will have similar if not higher cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 On 12/04/2018 at 10:42 PM, HC20.0 said: Archibald: c Baertschi: c+ Biega: C Boeser: A+ Boucher: F Burmistrov: F Del Zotto: C Dorsett: b Dowd: C Edler: c+ Eriksson: d Gagner: c Gaunce: C Goldobin: C Granlund: c Gudbranson: C Horvat: b+ Hutton: F Jokinen: c+ Leipsic: c+ Markstrom: c Motte: C- Nilsson: F Pouliot: C Daniel Sedin: c+ Henrik Sedin: C+ Stecher: C Sutter: C+ Tanev: c+ Vanek: c+ Virtanen: c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Archibald: B (Players play a little bigger when he is in the lineup) Baertschi: C+ Biega: C Gives you all he has Boeser: A+ Breakout year looks good every time he has the puck on his stick Boucher: C- Utica Burmistrov: F Bye Del Zotto: C average at best Dorsett: A+ Sad to see him retire. Can we find his twin brother Dowd: D sorry not much love here Edler: C No defensemen earns over a C this year . terrible Defensively and terrible Offensively Eriksson: C again if his contract wasn't so ridiculous he'd be ok Gagner: D Started to figure out how to play with the twins late. Maybe he gets more PP time next season depending on who is here Gaunce: C Needs to take a big step next season or Utica it is Goldobin: C+ (Looked better later in the season Playing on Horvat's wing) Maybe he just needs some better line-mates! Granlund: F needs a new team and opportunity Gudbranson: D+ Can he play over 50 games one year, please Horvat: A Gets better every year. Hutton: F (Looks confused, plays confused)needs a new opportunity 6 assists will not cut it as an O Defense man Jokinen: C+(I wouldn't waster a roster spot though) Leipsic: B+ Better than expected and may find more game next season Markstrom: D+ Motte: C+ ( If you are realistic about what should be expected of him he has done fine) 4th line penalty kill guy Nilsson: F (Failed miserably) Pouliot: C- Daniel Sedin: B Henrik Sedin: C+ Stecher: C had an ok year but Needs to score or he really isn't of much value Sutter: C+ Tanev: B+ Vanek: A Virtanen: B- ( Jake is coming of age, his play with the puck is better. He just needs his head and hands to catch up with his feet.) That Speed!!!!! The defense needs a major over haul. The scoring from that group is non-existant and the goals against speak for them selves. Edler on the power play has ONE goal in the last year. The others are not contributing either. Goal tending - The poor play of Nilsson should be enough to warrant Demko getting at least the back up job next season. Next Season we may get to see a little more of what we have in the system. 1.Re tool the D 2 Draft a D in first round 3.look for one or two Gritty forwards in Free agency. But no more than 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee51 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 On 12/04/2018 at 11:06 PM, bloodycanuckleheads said: Almost everyone deserves failing grades, especially management. Why didn't you say everyone fails. You know you wanted to. Besides, then you could really show off your hockey smarts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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