Alflives Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: 100 % true. Police don't even bother investigating B and E 's anymore...... too busy doing radar traps at the bottom of a gigantic hill near my house.... LOL Totally agree. It's so sad. I' m sure the officers would rather spend their time solving real crimes, rather than collecting tax dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Alflives said: Maybe the Policing of these horrific crimes (and other crimes of violence) would be more quickly solved if our Police were less busy with traffic patrol - speed traps and the like - and more busy with ... you know ... doing actual POLICE WORK? Why are our Police officers doing any traffic stuff, especially when we need (clearly) more detective work? Two different types of cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Totally agree. It's so sad. I' m sure the officers would rather spend their time solving real crimes, rather than collecting tax dollars. Again. A patrol officer doesn’t have the background to be doing detective work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: So people that have no family.... if they disappear.......... No investigation. Really ? My neighbour ( has no living family members ) may not agree with your logic.... Is that what happens? No? Then what are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Again. A patrol officer doesn’t have the background to be doing detective work. Why is any police officer giving out traffic citation? All police officers should be trained to do ... you know ... police work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Why is any police officer giving out traffic citation? All police officers should be trained to do ... you know ... police work. There's a difference between a patrol officer and a detective. a patrol officer is NOT trained to detective work, it requires further education and not everyone choses to do that. They are two completely different jobs. A police officers job is to enforce the law. There's a reason why we have speeding limits and there's a reason why we need people to enforce them. It's incredibly insulting for you to say someone is not doing their job, when they are doing exactly what there job description entails....You know police work. But like you said who needs people keeping the roads safe, i'm sure you wouldn't mind people tearing by your house while under the influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: There's a difference between a patrol officer and a detective. a patrol officer is NOT trained to detective work, it requires further education and not everyone choses to do that. They are two completely different jobs. A police officers job is to enforce the law. There's a reason why we have speeding limits and there's a reason why we need people to enforce them. It's incredibly insulting for you to say someone is not doing their job, when they are doing exactly what there job description entails....You know police work. But like you said who needs people keeping the roads safe, i'm sure you wouldn't mind people tearing by your house while under the influence. We surely are paying a heck of a lot for traffic enforcement, aren’t we? Police officers carry guns. Any officer with such training needs to be do police work, not collecting taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: We surely are paying a heck of a lot for traffic enforcement, aren’t we? Police officers carry guns. Any officer with such training needs to be do police work, not collecting taxes. Police work is enforcing the law, that includes keeping our roads safe. Carrying a gun doesn't make you an expert at solving a crime. They are two different role, They are NOT trained to do the same work. You wouldn't expect an apprentice plumber to all of the sudden be quoting jobs just because knows how to install a toilet. Two different jobs that require to different skill sets and knowledge, not everyone chooses to further their education just like you chose not to continue past grade 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Police work is enforcing the law, that includes keeping our roads safe. Carrying a gun doesn't make you an expert at solving a crime. They are two different role, They are NOT trained to do the same work. You wouldn't expect an apprentice plumber to all of the sudden be quoting jobs just because knows how to install a toilet. Two different jobs that require to different skill sets and knowledge, not everyone chooses to further their education just like you chose not to continue past grade 6. Grade 6 is all anyone really needs. i totally disagree with your sentiments about policing. All officers should be expected to do police work, involving solving crimes. Traffic violation enforcement is not policing, and should be done by camera and security forces, who are paid a lot less than a trained police officer. Having police officers doing criminal investigation would likely help resolve a lot more crimes. Government uses police officers to collect taxes (traffic tickets) which is a waste of manpower. IMHA, GRADE 6 educated, Opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Alflives said: Grade 6 is all anyone really needs. i totally disagree with your sentiments about policing. All officers should be expected to do police work, involving solving crimes. Not all people want to do detective work, some would prefer a safer secure job, and they are paid less to do so. This is like that in all industries, not everyone wants the responsibility to being a manager. Just now, Alflives said: Traffic violation enforcement is not policing, and should be done by camera and security forces, who are paid a lot less than a trained police officer. Most patrol officers are paid a lot less, but it is still needed, as it keeps our road safe, so that we don't have idiots on the road all the time. Just now, Alflives said: Having police officers doing criminal investigation would likely help resolve a lot more crimes. If more people choose to further there education and learn then we'd have more detectives. Not everyone wants to be a detective and the dangers that go along with it. Just now, Alflives said: Government uses police officers to collect taxes (traffic tickets) which is a waste of manpower. IMHA, GRADE 6 educated, Opinion. It's not a waste of man power, you will realize this when you understand they are DIFFERENT jobs. Next time you are getting surgery just tell hospital that you don't want a surgeon, that you want a nurse to perform the operation so that they don't waste the manpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Not all people want to do detective work, some would prefer a safer secure job, and they are paid less to do so. This is like that in all industries, not everyone wants the responsibility to being a manager. Most patrol officers are paid a lot less, but it is still needed, as it keeps our road safe, so that we don't have idiots on the road all the time. If more people choose to further there education and learn then we'd have more detectives. Not everyone wants to be a detective and the dangers that go along with it. It's not a waste of man power, you will realize this when you understand they are DIFFERENT jobs. Next time you are getting surgery just tell hospital that you don't want a surgeon, that you want a nurse to perform the operation so that they don't waste the manpower. Police officers are police officers. Each RCMP officer is very well trained to do actual police work, and are very well compensated. There is no reason for each officer to not do policing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: Police officers are police officers. Each RCMP officer is very well trained to do actual police work, and are very well compensated. There is no reason for each officer to not do policing. Some RCMP members are trained in different fields. A highways constable is not as well trained as a general investigations member in the field of murder investigation. Likewise, neither is the GIS/IHIT member trained in traffic accident reconstruction and investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Alflives said: Police officers are police officers. NO THEY AREN'T. Just as an apprentice isn't a certified plumber, just as an optician isn't a optometrist, just as a nurse isn't a surgeon. Their are different levels, different roles, and different skillsets and knowledge. It took my brother in law 8 years to work his way to become a detective. Quote There is no reason for each officer to not do policing. Do you know what the definition of policing is? You might want to look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: NO THEY AREN'T. Just as an apprentice isn't a certified plumber, just as an optician isn't a optometrist, just as a nurse isn't a surgeon. Their are different levels, different roles, and different skillsets and knowledge. It took my brother in law 8 years to work his way to become a detective. Do you know what the definition of policing is? You might want to look it up It’s clear we need our trained police officers to do police investigation, and not hand out tax bills in the form of traffic citation. Any serious accident requires investigation, right? That’s when the police get involved. Security guards can give out the tax bills. Leave our officers to do policing. If an officer doesn’t want to do actual police work, then (perhaps) they should not have joined the force? Do we need more officers investigating terrible crimes, like the topic of this thread? Yes, we clearly do. We have plenty of skilled officers, who are handing out traffic tickets. Get them doing the police work they signed up for. Simple dimple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, D-Money said: Is that what happens? No? Then what are you talking about? Yes, that is exactly what happened. That is how Picton murders went unsolved for so long. Police dropped the ball and did not do their jobs...... Sad, that disenfranchised people ( when disappear ) investigations are not taken serious by Canada's police forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Vancouver police get convictions in only 2.9 % of sexual assault cases... Time for police in BC to start doing their job..... police in BC are making big wages and time to get to work. My friend had car broken into / laptop stolen / purse / passport stolen. The perps were captured on video and license plate also on video where they used her credit card repeatedly. Police told her that don't pursue these types of crimes.... Are you kidding me....... Too busy settting radar traps at the bottom of a gigantic hill - on a country road near my house perhaps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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