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  1. 1. Who will you select first overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #1) Buffalo Sabres

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
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    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
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    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
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    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
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    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
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    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
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    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
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    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
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    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
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    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
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    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
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    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
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    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  2. 2. Who will you select second overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #2) Carolina Hurricanes

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
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    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
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    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
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    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
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    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
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    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
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    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
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    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
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    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  3. 3. Who will you select third overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #3) Montreal Canadiens

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
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    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
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    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
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    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  4. 4. Who will you select forth overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #4) Ottawa Senators

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
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    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
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    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
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    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
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    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  5. 5. Who will you select fifth overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #5) Arizona Coyotes

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
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    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
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    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
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    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
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    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  6. 6. Who will you select sixth overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #6) Detroit Red Wings

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
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    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
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    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
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    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  7. 7. Who will you select seventh overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #7) Vancouver Canucks

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
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    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
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    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  8. 8. Who will you select eighth overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #8) Chicago Blackhawks

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
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    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  9. 9. Who will you select ninth overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #9) New York Rangers

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
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    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
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    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
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    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
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    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
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    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
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    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
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    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)
  10. 10. Who will you select tenth overall in the 2018 NHL entry draft? (Pick #10) Edmonton Oilers

    • Rasmus Dahlin (Ranked 1st)
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    • Andrei Svechnikov (Ranked 2nd)
    • Filip Zadina (Ranked 3rd)
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    • Brady Tkachuk (Ranked 4th)
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    • Adam Boqvist (Ranked 5th)
    • Quinn Hughes (Ranked 6th)
    • Oliver Wahlstrom (Ranked 7th)
    • Evan Bouchard (Ranked 8th)
    • Noah Dobson (Ranked 9th)
    • Joel Farabee (Ranked 10th)
    • Ty Smith (Ranked 11th)
    • Barrett Hayton (Ranked 12th)
    • Isac Ludestrom (Ranked 13th)
    • Joesph Veleno (Ranked 14th)
    • Bode Wilde (Ranked 15th)
    • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Ranked 16th)
    • Rasmus Kupari (Ranked 17th)
    • Grigori Denisenko (Ranked 18th)
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    • Ryan Merkley (Ranked 19th)
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    • Jared McIsaac (Ranked 20th)
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    • Ryan McLeod (Ranked 21st)
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    • Akil Thomas (Ranked 22nd)
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    • Serron Noel (Ranked 23rd)
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    • Rasmus Sandin (Ranked 24th)
    • Jacob Olofsson (Ranked 25th)
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    • Mattias Samuelsson (Ranked 26th)
    • K'Andre Miller (Ranked 27th)
    • Jett Woo (Ranked 28th)
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    • Dominik Bokk (Ranked 29th)
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    • Martin Kaut (Ranked 30th)
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    • Bennoit-Oiliver Groulx (Ranked 31st)

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Posted (edited)

 1.) Dahlin (Buffalo Sabres)

 2.) Svechnikov (Carolina Hurricanes)

 3.) Kotkaniemi (Montreal Canadians)

 4.) Zadina (Ottawa Senators)

 5.) Boqvist (Arizona Coyotes)

 6.) Hughes (Detroit Red Wings)

 7.) Tkachuk (Vancouver Canucks)

 8.) Wahlstrom (Chicago Blackhawks)

 9.) Dobson (York Rangers)

10.) Bouchard (Edmonton Oilers)

Edited by Time Lord

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Wouldn’t JB trade down if this was his guy?  He could trade down to 15 to 20 and likely get this player.  Going this far off the board rarely, if ever, pans out.

He will surely be gone by 15-20. Some have him ranked as high as 8th. I've been wanting a dman all year, but I feel like once Boqvist and Hughes are gone, Kotkaniemi would be my next BPA.

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Username: Dude Perfect's 2018 Top 10 Draft Selections

#1. Rasmus Dahlin (Buffalo)

#2. Andrei Svechnikov (Carolina)

#3. Filip Zadina (Montreal)

#4. Brady Tkachuk (Ottawa)

#5. Adam Boqvist (Arizona)

#6. Oliver Wahlstrom (Detroit)

#7. Quinn Hughes (Vancouver)

#8. Noah Dobson (Chicago)

#9. Evan Bouchard (N.Y. Rangers)

#10. Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Edmonton)

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

Wouldn’t JB trade down if this was his guy?  He could trade down to 15 to 20 and likely get this player.  Going this far off the board rarely, if ever, pans out.

Nah he's actually very good

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8 minutes ago, Adarsh Sant said:

Nah he's actually very good

He’s ranked 16th.  Trade down. 

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1 hour ago, theo5789 said:

Username's: Theo5789 2018 Top 10 Draft Selections!

 1.) Rasmus Dahlin (Buffalo Sabres)

 2.) Andrei Svechnikov (Carolina Hurricanes)

 3.) Filip Zadina (Montreal Canadians)

 4.) Adam Boqvist (Ottawa Senators)

 5.) Brady Tkachuk (Arizona Coyotes)

 6.) Quinn Hughes (Detroit Red Wings)

 7.) Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Vancouver Canucks)

 8.) Evan Bouchard (Chicago Blackhawks)

 9.) Oliver Wahlstrom (New York Rangers)

10.) Noah Dobson (Edmonton Oilers)

 

We will hear the frustrations of not picking Bouchard only to have Kotkaniemi have an impressive year and silence the doubters.

Just like last year when people on CDC went crazy because they picked Pettersson over Cody Glass.  Don't hear too many complaints now.

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

He’s ranked 16th.  Trade down. 

You have no clue where the NHL teams have ranked him.

 

Mr.Pettersson was ranked around 12th last year no?

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1 hour ago, Adarsh Sant said:

You have no clue where the NHL teams have ranked him.

 

Mr.Pettersson was ranked around 12th last year no?

Not remotely true the EP was ranked 12th.   Each NHL will rank players very differently.   Canucks likely had EP 1 or 2 as apparently did Rangers and a few others.    Each organization has different approaches to youth development and see different things in 18 year old kids.   Some organizations do a much better job than others but short of the consensus number one/two in some drafts, when things are more equal across the board (like in 2017), someone like EP could have been ranked from 1 to even 10 or lower by the various teams in the league.   This year, you could see Bouchard ranked between 4 and 12, for example.    

 

The public rankings you have access too are, at best, a poor version of what each team will have based upon their own research.

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16 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Not remotely true the EP was ranked 12th.   Each NHL will rank players very differently.   Canucks likely had EP 1 or 2 as apparently did Rangers and a few others.    Each organization has different approaches to youth development and see different things in 18 year old kids.   Some organizations do a much better job than others but short of the consensus number one/two in some drafts, when things are more equal across the board (like in 2017), someone like EP could have been ranked from 1 to even 10 or lower by the various teams in the league.   This year, you could see Bouchard ranked between 4 and 12, for example.    

 

The public rankings you have access too are, at best, a poor version of what each team will have based upon their own research.

I agree with what you're saying, however I don't think the Canucks had Pettersson ranked 1 or 2. I think the concensus around the league was Hischier and Patrick either 1 or 2 and if we landed one of those picks, that's probably who we would have gone with. I think the Canucks had at least one of the dmen in Heiskanen or Makar ranked higher than Pettersson as well and I think I remember hearing a comment about if the dman is taken then we will go with EP. So if one of the dmen had fallen or a specific one had fallen, I think we may have made a different pick. Since the top 4 went as it did, we went with the next BPA on our list which others likely did not have and it has paid off. That's my impression at least, I could be very wrong and if they truly did have him ranked 1 or 2 BPA, then good on them for spotting that.

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Just now, theo5789 said:

I agree with what you're saying, however I don't think the Canucks had Pettersson ranked 1 or 2. I think the concensus around the league was Hischier and Patrick either 1 or 2 and if we landed one of those picks, that's probably who we would have gone with. I think the Canucks had at least one of the dmen in Heiskanen or Makar ranked higher than Pettersson as well and I think I remember hearing a comment about if the dman is taken then we will go with EP. So if one of the dmen had fallen or a specific one had fallen, I think we may have made a different pick. Since the top 4 went as it did, we went with the next BPA on our list which others likely did not have and it has paid off. That's my impression at least, I could be very wrong and if they truly did have him ranked 1 or 2 BPA, then good on them for spotting that.

I think Canucks had Pettersson ranked higher than Patrick....I am not positive on Hischier but I am pretty sure higher than Patrick.   I am nearly 100% positive they had Pettersson higher than both of those Dmen.     All the keeps coming out about pre-draft interviews/process etc. seems to indicate they were very focused on this one kid above all other.   I believe Gradin has very strong influence on Benning and co.

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8 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I think Canucks had Pettersson ranked higher than Patrick....I am not positive on Hischier but I am pretty sure higher than Patrick.   I am nearly 100% positive they had Pettersson higher than both of those Dmen.     All the keeps coming out about pre-draft interviews/process etc. seems to indicate they were very focused on this one kid above all other.   I believe Gradin has very strong influence on Benning and co.

You're probably right about Patrick, I think it would be hard to believe Pettersson would've been picked above Hischier if we were in the #1 spot though. This is the comment regarding if Makar fell to 5:

 

“Well, that would have been a hard decision.” Benning said through laughter. “Makar’s a player that drives the play from the back end. That would have been a hard, hard decision. We had a feeling that both the defenceman (Makar and Miro Heiskanen) would be gone, so we were concentrating on a couple guys with Pettersson being the guy we wanted.”

 

So it sounds like they had the dmen highly ranked (above Pettersson or not, not sure) and just assumed they would be gone by their pick and Pettersson was their top choice based on the event that all the players they had ranked above Pettersson were taken. It also sounded like they were scouting Jokiharju quite a bit, so getting that puck moving dman was in their sights.

 

Based on these comments from last year and Benning saying there are a couple of dmen of interest after Dahlin, I have to think the Canucks will want Boqvist or Hughes. Makes me believe more in my potential pick for the Canucks in Kotkaniemi if those two are gone since the Benning also has mention he'd like some size up front as well (I guess this assumes Tkachuk is gone as well).

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On ‎2018‎-‎04‎-‎28 at 8:37 PM, Rush17 said:

Pick Template: (Please complete poll questions too!)

 

Username's: Janisahockeynut 2018 Top 10 Draft Selections!

 1.) Your Pick (Buffalo Sabres)   Dahlin

 2.) Your Pick (Carolina Hurricanes) Svechnikov

 3.) Your Pick (Montreal Canadians) Tkachuk

 4.) Your Pick (Ottawa Senators) Zadina

 5.) Your Pick (Arizona Coyotes) Hughes

 6.) Your Pick (Detroit Red Wings) Boqvist

 7.) Your Pick (Vancouver Canucks) Bouchard

 8.) Your Pick (Chicago Blackhawks) Dobson

 9.) Your Pick (New York Rangers) Wahlstrom

10.) Your Pick (Edmonton Oilers) Smith

 

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After the top 4, maybe even top 3, there’s 5 or 6 guys who you could plug and play anywhere in the top 10

 

cant see Hughes, the American, sliding past Arizona and Detroit. Especially since he plays for Michigan 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Not remotely true the EP was ranked 12th.   Each NHL will rank players very differently.   Canucks likely had EP 1 or 2 as apparently did Rangers and a few others.    Each organization has different approaches to youth development and see different things in 18 year old kids.   Some organizations do a much better job than others but short of the consensus number one/two in some drafts, when things are more equal across the board (like in 2017), someone like EP could have been ranked from 1 to even 10 or lower by the various teams in the league.   This year, you could see Bouchard ranked between 4 and 12, for example.    

 

The public rankings you have access too are, at best, a poor version of what each team will have based upon their own research.

That was my exact point when I responded to @Alflives . Kotkaniemi may be ranked 16th publicly but NHL teams may have him much higher so if Canucks are picking 7th and he is BPA then they should pick him

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8 hours ago, Adarsh Sant said:

That was my exact point when I responded to @Alflives . Kotkaniemi may be ranked 16th publicly but NHL teams may have him much higher so if Canucks are picking 7th and he is BPA then they should pick him

Speaking of Kotkaniemi. Canucks prospect Petrus Palmu and he are both finalists for the rookie of year the Liga.

 

Mind you Petrus is older but it's an interesting tie in.

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22 hours ago, theo5789 said:

I agree with what you're saying, however I don't think the Canucks had Pettersson ranked 1 or 2. I think the concensus around the league was Hischier and Patrick either 1 or 2 and if we landed one of those picks, that's probably who we would have gone with. I think the Canucks had at least one of the dmen in Heiskanen or Makar ranked higher than Pettersson as well and I think I remember hearing a comment about if the dman is taken then we will go with EP. So if one of the dmen had fallen or a specific one had fallen, I think we may have made a different pick. Since the top 4 went as it did, we went with the next BPA on our list which others likely did not have and it has paid off. That's my impression at least, I could be very wrong and if they truly did have him ranked 1 or 2 BPA, then good on them for spotting that.

Linden did say they had him ranked higher than other team or lists.  I think only one draft list had him in the 5 spot and then Mackenzie at 7.   In the vid below Benning expected the two D to be gone.  This does not mean that they had the D's ranked higher just that they expected them to be gone.  Benning also says that they had targeted P earlier as someone of interest.

 

In the same video when asked if one of those D's were available would he have taken one Benning says it would have been a difficult decision.  

 

So basically all we know is that they liked P, thought he was undervalued and that D's were going in the 3 and 4 spots.    A year later, Benning and crew may have gotten the best player in that draft.  Watching P reminds me of Mario Lemieux in many ways.    

 

 

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, theo5789 said:

You're probably right about Patrick, I think it would be hard to believe Pettersson would've been picked above Hischier if we were in the #1 spot though. This is the comment regarding if Makar fell to 5:

 

“Well, that would have been a hard decision.” Benning said through laughter. “Makar’s a player that drives the play from the back end. That would have been a hard, hard decision. We had a feeling that both the defenceman (Makar and Miro Heiskanen) would be gone, so we were concentrating on a couple guys with Pettersson being the guy we wanted.”

 

So it sounds like they had the dmen highly ranked (above Pettersson or not, not sure) and just assumed they would be gone by their pick and Pettersson was their top choice based on the event that all the players they had ranked above Pettersson were taken. It also sounded like they were scouting Jokiharju quite a bit, so getting that puck moving dman was in their sights.

 

Based on these comments from last year and Benning saying there are a couple of dmen of interest after Dahlin, I have to think the Canucks will want Boqvist or Hughes. Makes me believe more in my potential pick for the Canucks in Kotkaniemi if those two are gone since the Benning also has mention he'd like some size up front as well (I guess this assumes Tkachuk is gone as well).

It cannot be assumed that the nucks had the D's ranked higher just that they would be gone - there is a big difference.  One reason for their assumption of the D's over P could be that they knew most teams and lists undervalued P and of course puck moving D's are worth gold.  In other words they knew that teams picking above them were not looking at P. 

 

From what I have read the top 3 are locks next are Tkachuk, Hughes and Boqvist (not in that order though).  Those would be my 6 guys to go ahead of us.   But for example Yotes don't seem like a team that needs D or left wingers so a right-handed guy like Wahlstrom could be their guy.   And what gets missed in all this are that most teams need C's and there is Kot's and Hayton that could be of interest to teams picking 4,5,6.  

 

 

 

 

 

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First post ever on this site!

 

My Draft Order

 

1. Buffalo - Dhalin - obviously

2. Carolina - Svechnikov

3. Montreal - Zadina - Montreal is in desperate need of offense so there is no way the don't take a sure thing top 6 player (probably top 3)

4. Ottawa -  Tkachuk - Also in need of young offensive help, but I could see them take Kotkaniemi or Wahlstrom

5. Arizona - Kotkaniemi or Tkachuk if not taken. Kotkaniemi will be the player that is taken earlier than people think IMHO

6. Detroit - Bovquist - Needs everywhere, but particularly on the back end and a puck mover,

7. Our Canucks - Bouchard - No brainer. The talk of he 'cant skate' is from message boards and incorrect. Scouting reports have him as an "above average" skater and excellent mobility which matters more. London is a factory and he will be the #1 we are looking for. I also think Benning's Dobson talk is to throw people off Bouchard as the want.

8. Chicago - Walhstrom - Starting to prepare for the aging of Toews and Kane would be smart.

9. New York - Dobson

10. Edmonton - Quinn Hughes. Small but top end offensive talent is all they want to play with McDavid / QB the pp.

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1 hour ago, EuroCanuck said:

First post ever on this site!

 

My Draft Order

 

1. Buffalo - Dhalin - obviously

2. Carolina - Svechnikov

3. Montreal - Zadina - Montreal is in desperate need of offense so there is no way the don't take a sure thing top 6 player (probably top 3)

4. Ottawa -  Tkachuk - Also in need of young offensive help, but I could see them take Kotkaniemi or Wahlstrom

5. Arizona - Kotkaniemi or Tkachuk if not taken. Kotkaniemi will be the player that is taken earlier than people think IMHO

6. Detroit - Bovquist - Needs everywhere, but particularly on the back end and a puck mover,

7. Our Canucks - Bouchard - No brainer. The talk of he 'cant skate' is from message boards and incorrect. Scouting reports have him as an "above average" skater and excellent mobility which matters more. London is a factory and he will be the #1 we are looking for. I also think Benning's Dobson talk is to throw people off Bouchard as the want.

8. Chicago - Walhstrom - Starting to prepare for the aging of Toews and Kane would be smart.

9. New York - Dobson

10. Edmonton - Quinn Hughes. Small but top end offensive talent is all they want to play with McDavid / QB the pp.

if you look at the coyotes what they seem to lack are right handed shot forwards.  Walhtrom shoots right.  With Ottawa I would think a D is more of an issue. Detroit who knows but my hunch if the top three go as is that Ottawa takes a D, Yotes take Walhtrom, Detroit Tk, and we get one of the 3 d's Bouchard, hughes, Bov (Ottawa gets first choice)  or we go Kotk.

 

Anyway what i am reading is the first 3 are in stone then the draft experts like Tk, Hughes, Boqvist, Bouchard in any order.   My only point is I think the coyotes don't want D's and seem to have a shortage of right-handed shots.  Walhstrom is kind of flying under the radar here.

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10 minutes ago, samurai said:

if you look at the coyotes what they seem to lack are right handed shot forwards.  Walhtrom shoots right.  With Ottawa I would think a D is more of an issue. Detroit who knows but my hunch if the top three go as is that Ottawa takes a D, Yotes take Walhtrom, Detroit Tk, and we get one of the 3 d's Bouchard, hughes, Bov (Ottawa gets first choice)  or we go Kotk.

 

Anyway what i am reading is the first 3 are in stone then the draft experts like Tk, Hughes, Boqvist, Bouchard in any order.   My only point is I think the coyotes don't want D's and seem to have a shortage of right-handed shots.  Walhstrom is kind of flying under the radar here.

My thoughts

Ottawa actually has a pretty young defense. They had 3 dmen under 23 play significant number of games and that ignores Chabot. Karlsson plans will really determine need and they have big needs offensively as well. They gave away Dhalen and really have no offensive talent in their system, take a look at their draft picks. They need everything and in all reality have better (albeit weak) depth with young D.

 

Arizona also actually has a lot of young depth on D and Kotkaneimi just had a great showing at the u18s and is a center, and the highest ranked center in the draft. Arizona is weak all over but scouts are saying he could be #1c material. Teams are built with 1c and 1d and Strome is likely not a 1c. I can actually see Montreal reaching on him to be honest. He is going to be the big mover up in the draft.

 

i also don’t think teams worry so much about right or left shots as a way to fill their lineup. They care about best player available and Right Ds are talked about a lot because they are actually rare. But a winger being a right wing or left wing typically won’t make a major difference unless two players are almost even and then the team goes for positional need (thus if left or right shot it only then matters). Obviously if a center it matters little and certainly isn’t a reason not to take the best center in the draft. 

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