Trudeau Government Believes ISIS Terrorists Have A “Right To Return” To Canada

[D.B Cooper]

16 hours ago, GM said:

According to Global News, the administration believes that not only do ISIS operatives have a “right to return,” but also that the “government must facilitate their return to Canada.”

 

Link https://globalnews.ca/news/4205480/canadas-plan-freturn-isis-fighters/

Boooooooo.  

 

You cons are always trying to stir everything up.  

We lost so we are going to twist every story into some monster.  

Boohoo.  

Libs won, and they probably will again.  

 

[Ryan Strome]

55 minutes ago, drummerboy said:

Boooooooo.  

 

You cons are always trying to stir everything up.  

We lost so we are going to twist every story into some monster.  

Boohoo.  

Libs won, and they probably will again.  

 

Umm are you new to politics? While the Conservatives were in power the Liberals twisted every story. This has been going on for almost a 151 years now.

[RUPERTKBD]

15 hours ago, Tre Mac said:

Well duh, we're right next to the Pacific Ocean

 

 

Not like those other countries like Calgary and Texas....

[Ryan Strome]

2 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Not like those other countries like Calgary and Texas....

Well it's clear you and I both like TPB.

 

 

[RUPERTKBD]

16 hours ago, Roger Neilson's Towel said:

I don’t care where they were born. If you have committed treason your citizenship should be revoked. Not just monitored and left up to our abysmal court system. 

Not sure about the others, Roger, but what I'm wondering is where exactly do you think we should send Canadians citizens who's citizenship has been revoked?

[Ryan Strome]

4 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Not sure about the others, Roger, but what I'm wondering is where exactly do you think we should send Canadians citizens who's citizenship has been revoked?

Who cares. They committed treason and are terrorists. Leave them in Syria, Assad will deal with them.

[RUPERTKBD]

4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Well it's clear you and I both like TPB.

I learned a long time ago Ryan, if you're on these boards long enough, you eventually find common ground with everyone, no matter how much you might disagree on other things....

 

,,,,any way you look at it, it's water under the fridge....

[RUPERTKBD]

1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

Who cares. They committed treason and are terrorists. Leave them in Syria, Assad will deal with them.

Sure, if Syria will take them. But they're not Syrian citizens, they're Canadians....

[Ryan Strome]

16 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Sure, if Syria will take them. But they're not Syrian citizens, they're Canadians....

I didn't say anything about Syria taking them.

[Russ]

2 hours ago, drummerboy said:

Boooooooo.  

 

You cons are always trying to stir everything up.  

We lost so we are going to twist every story into some monster.  

Boohoo.  

Libs won, and they probably will again.  

 

Every party twists the hell out of every story, cons and liberals.  If Cons were in power right now Liberals would be trying to find ways to twist the hell out of these stories just like the Cons are currently doing to the Liberals.  

 

Any that can be proven to have fought in the war with ISIS which many can (can't prove who killed who though), I think they should be given similar sentences to anyone in Canada who has be charged with "attempted murder".  Now I don't know how things work exactly with the judicial system, but trying to have them be reintegrated into society is a sketchy and scary thing, they went radical and as much as you can say you will watch them like a hawk, try and help them transform into regular citizens, you will never get the fully radical ideas out of their heads most likely and thats the only frightening part.  I wish all these people could be rehabbed and be back to being normal Canadians and be peaceful, but is that really going to happen and to what cost to the tax payer?

[RUPERTKBD]

29 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

I didn't say anything about Syria taking them.

Uhhhh.....

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Leave them in Syria, Assad will deal with them.

[Warhippy]

Why the hell do people keep using the word treason?  It hurts how little people actually read let alone understand the english language.

 

trea·son

ˈtrēzən/

noun

 

1. the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

   "they were convicted of treason"

   • the action of betraying someone or something.

     plural noun: treasons

     "doubt is the ultimate treason against faith"

      
   • the crime of murdering someone to whom the murderer owed allegiance, such as a master or husband.

     noun: petty treason; plural noun: petty treasons

 

Murder?  Sure.  Torture assault rape?  Ya probably.  Treason?  Uh no.  These losers went to another country to do bad things.  They didn't do bad things to Canada or the canadian government.  (yes I'm aware some of you are itching to jump up and scream yet, but to date the homegrown crowd has been a far greater danger just sayin)  Therefore, by the argument so many of you like to pull with acts of terror.  It is not treason.

[Ryan Strome]

12 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Uhhhh.....

Hence the Assad will deal with them.

[Ryan Strome]

3 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Why the hell do people keep using the word treason?  It hurts how little people actually read let alone understand the english language.

 

trea·son

ˈtrēzən/

noun

 

1. the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

   "they were convicted of treason"

   • the action of betraying someone or something.

     plural noun: treasons

     "doubt is the ultimate treason against faith"

      
   • the crime of murdering someone to whom the murderer owed allegiance, such as a master or husband.

     noun: petty treason; plural noun: petty treasons

 

Murder?  Sure.  Torture assault rape?  Ya probably.  Treason?  Uh no.  These losers went to another country to do bad things.  They didn't do bad things to Canada or the canadian government.  (yes I'm aware some of you are itching to jump up and scream yet, but to date the homegrown crowd has been a far greater danger just sayin)  Therefore, by the argument so many of you like to pull with acts of terror.  It is not treason.

They fought against Canadian soldiers.

[Tortorella's Rant]

19 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

If you can prove that in court then I fully agree with you. Often the government cannot prove anything apart from they were in Syria which is not a crime.

 

It's not what you think, it's what you can prove.

 

If you can prove it then lock em up for ever.

The government knows full well many of these people did go there to fight. Why else would they acknowledge this then admit they are trying to "reintegrate" them into civil society. Stevie Wonder can see this and could prosecute them.  CBC paraded around one parasite not long ago who freely admitted to having joined daesh. Given all this, the judicial system in this country is so pathetically weak they would never end up in prison for very long so it begs the question of what is the point even. The government is supposed to protect its people, but nobody who should give a $&!# seems to.

[nuckin_futz]

15 hours ago, vinny_in_vancouver said:

Not to troll, but just to clarify: you're saying that if we can prove that a Canadian did join ISIS, then they should be allowed to come back here but only to be locked up forever?

If they're caught in Syria, breaking Syrian law they'd be subject to Syrian justice. Nothing Canada can do about that. They might be put to death there. If so, problem solved.

 

If they return to Canada and are convicted they're subject to Canadian law. Which is imprisonment.

[Warhippy]

21 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

They fought against Canadian soldiers.

Are you absolutely sure?  See the way i'm reading this is the person involved in the most recent report was in syria.  We aren't fighting in Syria.  Then there are others fighting in iraq.  Why are we in Iraq again?  Like at all?  The only known fatality of a Canadian soldier in iraq was by the hands of our allies.

 

Kind of a grey area really, but unless you can clearly show that these guys fought against canadian soldiers in a country they don't belong in at all after our government promised us they'd not be anywhere near the front lines it is still not treason.

 

 

[JM_]

1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

Who cares. They committed treason and are terrorists. Leave them in Syria, Assad will deal with them.

thats probably the fate for a lot of them. 

 

These aren't the people we need to be most concerned with finding, we know who they are and CSIS will track them if they try to return.

 

Its the home grown self-radicalized ones that we need to figure out how to find. If CSIS and the RCMP can work out the tracking systems needed to ID those people then we'll actually be a litter safer. 

 

[ForsbergTheGreat]

5 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

If they're caught in Syria, breaking Syrian law they'd be subject to Syrian justice. Nothing Canada can do about that. They might be put to death there. If so, problem solved.

 

If they return to Canada and are convicted they're subject to Canadian law. Which is imprisonment.

Short of having photo/video evidence there’s not a lot we can do. Even when they openly admit performing killings they seem to get away. Would you feel safe living next door to Abu Huzaifa

 

http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4658607

 

Imprisonment is a crap situation as is means they just become a tax burden on the rest of us. 

[nuckin_futz]

6 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

The government knows full well many of these people did go there to fight. Why else would they acknowledge this then admit they are trying to "reintegrate" them into civil society. Stevie Wonder can see this and could prosecute them.  CBC paraded around one parasite not long ago who freely admitted to having joined daesh. Given all this, the judicial system in this country is so pathetically weak they would never end up in prison for very long so it begs the question of what is the point even. The government is supposed to protect its people, but nobody who should give a $&!# seems to.

Once again, it's not what you know it's what you can prove in a court of law. Gathering evidence in a war torn region is a tall order. Especially considering that dead people don't talk.

 

If the guy admitted to joining Daesh it shouldn't be difficult convicting him (you'd hope). Then again, like you said we do have a crap legal system. But what we have is still better than street justice.