[Discussion] What Would it Take to Trade Up to the #3 Pick?

[Nave]

This draft may be the first in years where there's actually movement in the top 10, and a team that's seems likely to trade down is Montreal. They need a center most of all, and there isn't a pure center projected to go in the top 5, unless they look at Tkachuk or Wahlstrom as potential centers. However, Kotkaniemi is said to be the only 'pure' center that will go high, but he seems to be a reach at #3.

 

I'm wondering what the price would be if Montreal wanted to trade down with us and still get their guy in Kotkaniemi. 

 

We could have our pick of a defenseman, or just go ahead and draft Zadina or Svechnikov. Hughes and Tkachuk probably won't fall to us... we can go ahead and draft them too. 

 

Would you trade up if the opportunity is there? Or would you stay where we are and hope someone falls to us?

[Agoork]

I don't want to use assets to move up as it would cost too much.

We will have some excellent choices available at #7.

[smithers joe]

probably our pick and horvat or boeser. lets not do it.

[IBatch]

Well...what about Tanev?  Just kidding, we need defenseman and we'd be giving one up to draft Zadina or BT who are projected to go 3, 4....

 

If for some reason Benning is really high on Svecknikov than could see maybe going for that, but it would take what Smithers say above to that...steep price.  

 

There should still be some very good options at 7, one of these guys could fall which would make it harder to choose if it comes to BPA or drafting a defensemen,  just as some of these guys won't be as good or will be better than projected too.  It will probably come down to Dobson or Whalstrom.

 

 

[MJDDawg]

Raymond, Ballard and a 3rd.

[Gaudette Celly]

Same answer every year -- too much.  FAR too much.

[JM_]

Too much,and  Beregvin has no love for Jim either. Better to wait and see who falls to 7, we might get another Pettersson. 

[combover]

it Would take not going on pointless winning steaks at the end of the season when the rest of the league stops playing because they don’t want to get hurt (playoff team)  or they want a better draft position. (Everyone else......well except Vancouver. )

 

so why tade picks and prospects for something you had in your hand and in your control and already  gave   away. 

hope Judd Bracket can find/draft another diamond he’s been this teams saving grace we finally a scout that can find talent. 

 

 

 

[Rush17]

Way to much imo.

 

7th overall + 37 Overall + a prospect better then Lind. Unless we can convince them to take Baertschi.

 

It just makes more sense to stand Pat at this stage unless they are willing to accept a roster player over a prospect. Ideally a roster player over the age of 24-25.

[Ghostsof1915]

I'm happy with lucky number seven. 

[VegasCanuck]

6 hours ago, NaveJoseph said:

This draft may be the first in years where there's actually movement in the top 10, and a team that's seems likely to trade down is Montreal. They need a center most of all, and there isn't a pure center projected to go in the top 5, unless they look at Tkachuk or Wahlstrom as potential centers. However, Kotkaniemi is said to be the only 'pure' center that will go high, but he seems to be a reach at #3.

 

I'm wondering what the price would be if Montreal wanted to trade down with us and still get their guy in Kotkaniemi. 

 

We could have our pick of a defenseman, or just go ahead and draft Zadina or Svechnikov. Hughes and Tkachuk probably won't fall to us... we can go ahead and draft them too. 

 

Would you trade up if the opportunity is there? Or would you stay where we are and hope someone falls to us?

Likely, much more than its worth.

[Hairy Kneel]

Tanev and take Svechnikov

sign a UFA Dman

[ABNuck]

RNH and Edmonton's 1st...

[Fanaholic]

6 hours ago, NaveJoseph said:

This draft may be the first in years where there's actually movement in the top 10, and a team that's seems likely to trade down is Montreal. They need a center most of all, and there isn't a pure center projected to go in the top 5, unless they look at Tkachuk or Wahlstrom as potential centers. However, Kotkaniemi is said to be the only 'pure' center that will go high, but he seems to be a reach at #3.

 

I'm wondering what the price would be if Montreal wanted to trade down with us and still get their guy in Kotkaniemi. 

 

We could have our pick of a defenseman, or just go ahead and draft Zadina or Svechnikov. Hughes and Tkachuk probably won't fall to us... we can go ahead and draft them too. 

 

Would you trade up if the opportunity is there? Or would you stay where we are and hope someone falls to us?

NO, THE COST WILL BE TOO HIGH . . .

[Where'd Luongo?]

3 hours ago, MJDDawg said:

Raymond, Ballard and a 3rd.

How bout Goldobin, Hutton and a 3rd?

[Pete M]

2 hours ago, combover said:

it Would take not going on pointless winning steaks at the end of the season when the rest of the league stops playing because they don’t want to get hurt (playoff team)  or they want a better draft position. (Everyone else......well except Vancouver. )

 

so why tade picks and prospects for something you had in your hand and in your control and already  gave   away. 

hope Judd Bracket can find/draft another diamond he’s been this teams saving grace we finally a scout that can find talent. 

 

 

 

well said.

[aGENT]

We're going to get roughly the same value player at 7, not worth it IMO.

 

If we're going to sell players etc for draft assets, I'd FAR prefer we try to get a package together for one of NYI's or PHI's two mid 1sts or say CHI's #8 pick. 

 

Given the cap hell CHI is in and that they likely have little choice to attempt another run with Toews, Kane, Keith and Seabrook all under contract, I'd look long and hard at selling them Tanev with 50% cap retention and possibly taking some salary back. Say Anisimov (assuming he'd waive) in exchange for one of our cheaper RFA's (Baer/Granlund) or heck, maybe they'd have interest in Gagner at 50% as well. Gives them two years of solid, cheap, veteran, in their prime depth to attempt to compete with their current core.

 

In exchange we take 8th OA (not likely to do them much good in those two years) and perhaps a prospect.

[mll]

1 hour ago, aGENT said:

We're going to get roughly the same value player at 7, not worth it IMO.

 

If we're going to sell players etc for draft assets, I'd FAR prefer we try to get a package together for one of NYI's or PHI's two mid 1sts or say CHI's #8 pick. 

 

Given the cap hell CHI is in and that they likely have little choice to attempt another run with Toews, Kane, Keith and Seabrook all under contract, I'd look long and hard at selling them Tanev with 50% cap retention and possibly taking some salary back. Say Anisimov (assuming he'd waive) in exchange for one of our cheaper RFA's (Baer/Granlund) or heck, maybe they'd have interest in Gagner at 50% as well. Gives them two years of solid, cheap, veteran, in their prime depth to attempt to compete with their current core.

 

In exchange we take 8th OA (not likely to do them much good in those two years) and perhaps a prospect.

 

Chicago has cap space this off-season with Bowman saying that they have flexibility to make moves.  They are looking for a top-4 D but the different articles suggests more free agency.  Chicago talks of rebuilding their group and having their young players taking an increased role.

They apparently have a crowded roster.  Schmaltz should be C2 next season - so Anisimov could be available and replaced in free agency but probably a different profile.  Jurco is a 2011 draftee - they traded a 3rd round pick for him a year ago.

 

Lazerus writes: 

Jurco wants to return and was solid down the stretch, but the Hawks have enough younger forwards in their system that should be playing ahead of him. With Sharp retiring, it’s possible the Hawks will try to bring back versatile veteran Tommy Wingels for a bottom-six role. Anisimov’s no-movement clause becomes a partial no-trade July 1, and it’s possible the Hawks will trade him and pursue another forward in free agency.

[aGENT]

Just now, mll said:

 

Chicago has cap space this off-season with Bowman saying that they have flexibility to make moves.  They are looking for a top-4 D but the different articles suggests more free agency.  Chicago talks of rebuilding their group and having their young players taking an increased role.

Yes, you were chasing your tail on this in another thread. They want to rebuild but they're still competing and they're not moving vets. They say they have cap space but they actually have very little. They're signing Top4 D UFA's but they don't actually have cap....

 

They're not going to do any better in free agency than Tanev at $2.225 (top 4 D) and Gagner at $1.575. And replacing Anisimov might actually free up enough cap to let them fill/tweak a couple other holes this summer on top of bringing in Scmaltz etc.

[Rob_Zepp]

10 hours ago, NaveJoseph said:

What Would it Take to Trade Up to the #3 Pick?