250Integra Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Jack Drury. Can't go wrong with NHL bloodlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Where's Wellwood said: I want Jett Woo That's an awsome name, we deffiently need to take him lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 There will be a lot of great defensemen available but my gut tells me that if Benoit Olivier-Groulx is available then go with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaTikare Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 15 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I’ve been on the Filip Hållander hype train for a while and still believe, should he still be on the board at #37, he’d be a great pick for us. But there are plenty of guy I’d like at #37, probably too many to mention. Hållander’s just been my 2nd round target for so long, so I see no reason to change now. Plus I like the idea of another Timrå connection. Seems like those have worked out fairly well for us. By the way, Hållander is closer to 6’2” than 5’11” (as listed in the OP’s #42). His recent combine measurements were 6’1.75” and 188.38 lbs. #1 Olofsson (probably goners by 37) Projection: Real good Middle 6 Center #2 Hållander Projection Middle 6 power Forward, not afraid to get dirty and plays with alot of heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Foudy is the dream 2nd rounder, dudes just scratching the surface. We need some C depth as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Diesel Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, 250Integra said: Jack Drury. Can't go wrong with NHL bloodlines. Probably a better target for the 3rd round pick. They can't afford to reach for a guy who they might be able to pick up in the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 19 hours ago, Bert Diesel said: I hope this thread hasn't already been created somewhere but since the #7 overall pick has been discussed to death in the other thread i'm interested to hear what people think the targets for the #37 overall pick should be. I've compiled a draft list based on reading various scouting reports and lists of rankings. I've based the rankings Bob Mckenzie, Craig Button, Corey Pronman from the Athletic and Canucks Army. The sources I trust more I have weighted a little bit more heavily. I've also included height, position and combine top 10 results. Based on the information we have our disposal, I'm thinking that the Canucks most likely targets at 37 will be a defenseman. A lot depends on who drops into the 2nd round obviously and there are too many variables to know anything for certain. I'm going to narrow it down to top 10 choices for defenceman and for forwards in the event Benning gambles on a forward who dropped (like Tolvanen last year). Overall, I think it makes more sense for them to shore up the prospect depth on defence as will certainly be many solid D men available where they are picking. I'm even for them grabbing Wahlstrom with the first pick and picking more for need in the other rounds. They cannot afford to mess up #7. Defence targets for 37: (in no particular order) (I would include K'andre Miller and Ryan Merkely but they will likely be gone) 1 Alexander Alexeyev 2. Jared Mcissac 3. Jonny Tychonick 4.Jacob Bernard Docker (great combine results) 5. Rasmus Sandin 6. Calen Addison 7. Nils Lundkvist 8. Mattias Samuelson 9. Jett Woo 10. Nicholas Beaudin Not having seen these players play but going on stats and combine results I would choose between Docker, Tychonick and Lundkvist. Forwards: 1. Jacob Olofsson 2. Martin Kaut 3. Jack McBain 4. Ty Dellandrea 5. Jake Wise 6. Liam Foudy (insane combine results) 7. Filip Hallander 8. John Gruden 9. Jessie Ylonen 10. Benoit Olivier-Groulx (the three that intrigue me the most here are Mcbain, Foudy and Dellandrea) Here's my draft list i've been compiling: 1. Rasmus Dahlin D 6”2 Sweden (top 10 V02 duration) 2. Andrei Svechnikov RW 6”2 OHL (top 10 bench press) (top 10 squat jump) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 pro agility right) 3. Filip Zadina RW 6”0 QMJHL 4. Quinn Hughes D 5”10 NCAA 5. Brady Tkachuk LW 6”3 NCAA 6. Oliver Wahlstrom RW/C 6”1 USNTDP (top 10 bench press) 7. Noah Dobson D 6”3 QMJHL (top 10 mean power) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 pro agility left) 8. Adam Boqvist D 5”10 Sweden (top 10 mean power) (top 10 peak power) 9. Jesperi Kotkaniemi C 6”2 Finland 10. Evan Bouchard D 6”2 OHL (top 10 fatigue index) (top 10 pullups) 11. Joe Veleno C 6”1 QMJHL (top 10 fatigue index) 12. Ty Smith D 5’10 WHL 13. Bode Wilde D 6’2 USNTDP 14. Joel Farabee 6”0 LW USNTDP 15. Barret Hayton C 6”1 OHL (top 10 pro agility right) 16. Rasmus Kupari C 6”1 Finland (top 10 bench press) 17. Ryan McLeod C 6”2 OHL 18. Dominic Bokk LW 6’1 SHL 19. Isac Lundestrom C 6”0 Sweden(top 10 peak power) (top 10 long jump) (top 10 Vo2 Max) 20. Serron Noel RW 6’5 OHL 21. Vitali Kravstov RW 6’2 KHL 22. K’Andre Miller D 6’3 USNTDP (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 long jump) 23. Akil Thomas C 5’11 OHL 24. Jared Macissac D 6’1 QMJHL 25. Jacob Olofosson C 6”2 Sweden 26. Rasmus Sandin D 5’11 OHL 27. Alexander Alexeyev D 6’3 WHL 28. Ryan Merkely D 5’11 OHL 29. Jett Woo D 6’0 WHL 30. Martin Kaut RW 6”2 Czech 31. Jack McBain C 6’3 OJHL (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 V02 duration) (top 10 Vo2 Max) 32. Ty Dellandrea C 6”0 OHL (top 10 Vo2 max) 33. Grigori Denisenko C 5’10 MHL (top 10 fatigue index) 34. Calen Addisson D 5’10 WHL 35. Johnny Tychonick D 6”0 BCHL (top 10 peak power) (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 pro agility right) 36. Adam Ginning D 6’3 SHL (top 10 fatigue index) (top 10 V02 duration) 37. Nicolas Beaudin D 5”11 QMJHL 38. Jake Wise C 5”10 USNTDP (top 10 pro agility right) 39. Nils Lundkvist D 5”11 D Sweden (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 squat jump) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 long jump) 40. Niklas Nordgren –5”9 RW Finland 41. Jacob Bernard Docker D 6”0 AJHL (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 pro agility right) (top 10 pullups) 42. Filip Hallander C 5”11 Timra 43. Cole Fonstad C 5’10 WHL 44. David Gustafsson C 6”2 Sweden 45. Mattias Samuelsson D 6’4 USNTDP (top 10 V02 duration) 46. Liam Foudy C 6’0 OHL (top 10 peak power) (top 10 bench press) (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 squat jump) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 pro agility right) (top 10 long jump) 47. Kiril Marchenko RW 6’3 KHL 48. Jon Gruden LW 6’0 USNTDP (top 10 mean power) (top 10 peak power) 49. Benoit-Olivier Groulx C 6’1 QMJHL (top 10 pullups) 50. Jessie Ylonen- RW 6’0 FInland 51. Ivan Morozov LW 6’1 KHL 52. Nathan Dunkley C 5”11 OHL 53. Alexander Khovanov C 5”11 QMJHL (top 10 mean power) (top 10 peak power) 54. Kevin Bahl D OHL 6’6 (top 10 fatigue index) (top 10 bench press) (top 10 V02 duration) 55. Ruslan IShakov RW 5”7 KHL 56. Patrick Giles R 6’4 USNTDP 57. Blake Mclaughlin LW 6’0 USHL (top 10 pullups) 58. Allan McShane C 5’11 OHL 59. Sampo Ranta RW 6’2 USHL (top 10 pro agility right) (top 10 V02 duration) 60. Jay O’Brien C 6’0 USHL (top 10 bench press) (top 10 pullups) (top 10 Vo2 Max) 61. Filip Johansson D 6’1 SHL 62. Nico Gross D Switzerland OHL 6”1 63. Jacob Ragnarson D 6’0 Allsvenskan 64. Albin Eriksson RW 6’4 SHL 65. Jan Jenik C 6’1 Czech 66. Axel Andersson D 6’0 Switzerland 67. Stanislav Demin D 6’2 BCHL 68. Adam Mascherin 5’9 LW OHL (overage) 69. Anderson McDonald LW 6'2 QMJHL 70. Jack Drury 5’11 C USHL (top 10 Vo2 max) 71. Aidan Dudas C 5’8 OHL (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 pro agility right) (top 10 Vo2 max) 72. Xavier Bernard D 6’3 QMJHL 73. Gabriel Fortier LW 5’10 QMJHL (top 10 mean power) (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 squat jump) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 pullups) (top 10 Vo2 max) 74. Tyler Madden C 5’11 USHL (top 10 fatigue index) 75. Adam SamuelssonD 6’6 USNTDP 76. Oskar back C 6’2 SHL (top 10 V02 duration) 77. Cameron Hillis C 5’10 OHL (top 10 mean power) (top 10 Vo2 max) 78. Justin Almeida (overage) C 5’9 WHL 79. Kyle Topping C 5’11 WHL 80. Blade Jenkins LW 6’1 OHL 81. Semyon Der-Arguchinstev C OHL 5’10 82. Philip Kurashev C 6’0 Qmjhl 83. Scott Perunovich D 5”9 NCAA (overage) 84. Jakub Lauko 6’1 LW Czech (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 long jump) 85. Vladislav Kotkoz LW 6’4 QMJHL 86. Logan Hutsko RW 5’10 NCAA 87. Milos Roman C 6’0 WHL (top 10 fatigue index) 88. Lukas Dostal G 6’1 Czech 89. Filip Kral D 6’1 WHL 90. Sean Durzi D 6’0 OHL (overage) 91. Simon Johansen D 6’2 SHL 92. Marcus Westfalt C 6’3 SHL 93. Kody Clark RW 6’1 OHL (top 10 mean power) 94. Nikolai Kovalenko RW 5’10 KHL 95. Ty Emberson D 6’1 USNTDP (top 10 bench press) (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 squat jump) (top 10 no arm jump) 96. Luke Henman C 5’11 QMJHL (top 10 peak power) 97. Xavier Bouchard D 6’3 QMJHL (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 pro agility right) (top 10 V02 duration) (top 10 Vo2 max) 98. Martin Fehervary D 6’1 SHL (top 10 squat jump) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 pullups) (top 10 long jump) 99. David Lilja C 5’11 SHL 100. Linus Nyman RW 5’9 OHL (overage) 101. Alec Regula D 6’3 OHL 102. Jacob Ingham G 6’3 OHL (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 long jump) 103. Kristian Reichel C 6’1 WHL (top 10 mean power) (top 10 peak power) 104. Eric Florchuk C 6’1 WHL (top 10 mean power) (top 10 fatigue index) (top 10 squat jump) (top 10 no arm jump) 105. Marcus Karlberg C 5’11 Allsvenskan 106. Justus Anunnen G 6’3 Finland 107. Jack Gorniak LW 5’11 USHS (top 10 peak power) (top 10 bench press) (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 no arm jump) (top 10 pro agility left) (top 10 pro agility right) (top 10 long jump) 108. Tyler Weiss LW 5”10 USNTDP 109. Curtis hall C USHL 6”3 110. Krystof Hrabik C Czech 111. Dimitri Zavgordny LW 5’9 QMJHL 112. Carter Robinson (top 10 long jump) 113. Olivier Rodrigue (top 10 long jump) (top 10 Vo2 Max) 114. Jordan Harris D 5’11 USHL(top 10 fatigue index) (top 10 vertical jump) (top 10 pullups) 115. Erik Florchuk C 6’1 WHL (top 10 mean power) (top 10 fatigue index) Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I want to trade down a few picks and get our 4th round pick back as well as pick up Kevin Bahl anywhere between #40-50....just not sure he falls too #50... He had a great combine, he can skate, he can hit and he can shoot....and his NHL playing size will likely be about 6'7" and 240 Lbs or so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Diesel Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: I want to trade down a few picks and get our 4th round pick back as well as pick up Kevin Bahl anywhere between #40-50....just not sure he falls too #50... He had a great combine, he can skate, he can hit and he can shoot....and his NHL playing size will likely be about 6'7" and 240 Lbs or so.... I liked him in the top prospects game. Curiously Canucks Army left him out of their top 100. Its surprising since they are usually very thorough in regards to prospects. I think he'd be a good target for their 3rd round pick if he's not off the board yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Bert Diesel said: I liked him in the top prospects game. Curiously Canucks Army left him out of their top 100. Its surprising since they are usually very thorough in regards to prospects. I think he'd be a good target for their 3rd round pick if he's not off the board yet. It was a bit of a strange omission. CA had him 90th in their spring rankings, so I'm not sure why they've now dropped him out of their top-100. Maybe he just got passed by guys that moved up their list? But if anything, I'd have thought he'd be the one to move up (at least from a 90th ranking). I really liked him in the WJC-18. Not just for his size, defensive ability, and skating, but also some very impressive puck rushing and playmaking in the offensive zone that I didn't really think he quite had in his toolbox (at least not the the extent he demonstrated on a few of his shifts that I really noticed during that tournament). And I believe their model (pGPS) has Bahl at around a 23% likelihood of success (to reach 200 or more NHL GP), which you'd think should've put him quite easily in their top-100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: It was a bit of a strange omission. CA had him 90th in their spring rankings, so I'm not sure why they've now dropped him out of their top-100. Maybe he just got passed by guys that moved up their list? But if anything, I'd have thought he'd be the one to move up (at least from a 90th ranking). I really liked him in the WJC-18. Not just for his size, defensive ability, and skating, but also some very impressive puck rushing and playmaking in the offensive zone that I didn't really think he quite had in his toolbox (at least not the the extent he demonstrated on a few of his shifts that I really noticed during that tournament). And I believe their model (pGPS) has Bahl at around a 23% likelihood of success (to reach 200 or more NHL GP), which you'd think should've put him quite easily in their top-100. Is he a physical player? Just curious because a guy like Weircioch has a lot of the same attributes, but is having trouble cracking a roster and I imagine it's not utilizing the size. Even a guy like Dougie Hamilton who is excellent offensively, doesn't provide much else and is deemed as an expendable player (for decent value though). The size and skill is intriguing, but I'd like to see a guy that size at least be willing to battle much like Tryamkin did even though he doesn't play the game with that edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: I want to trade down a few picks and get our 4th round pick back as well as pick up Kevin Bahl anywhere between #40-50....just not sure he falls too #50... He had a great combine, he can skate, he can hit and he can shoot....and his NHL playing size will likely be about 6'7" and 240 Lbs or so.... 2 goals in the last two seasons says otherwise in the shooting dept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGT68 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: I want to trade down a few picks and get our 4th round pick back as well as pick up Kevin Bahl anywhere between #40-50....just not sure he falls too #50... He had a great combine, he can skate, he can hit and he can shoot....and his NHL playing size will likely be about 6'7" and 240 Lbs or so.... Big. But I am not up for that pick. Benning can and will do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Big fan of Alexeyev, considered a great 2 way dman, strong at both ends, has some injury concerns over the last 2 seasons. He has strong character though, and that is what I find most impressive and tragic at the same time, his Mom passed away mid-season, (may she rest in peace), and he made the decision to come back and keep playing, and not only come in and play but play a strong 2 way defensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: Big fan of Alexeyev, considered a great 2 way dman, strong at both ends, has some injury concerns over the last 2 seasons. He has strong character though, and that is what I find most impressive and tragic at the same time, his Mom passed away mid-season, (may she rest in peace), and he made the decision to come back and keep playing, and not only come in and play but play a strong 2 way defensive game. Wasn't on my radar, but looking more into him and he would definitely be an interesting pick. Depends who's available when we pick. Earlier I mentioned my list, and I would put Alexeyev after Ginning and maybe bump Bahl to be a 3rd round pick as I don't think I'd use a 37th overall on him. On 2018-06-10 at 11:03 PM, theo5789 said: My list for the 2nd rounder if they're available would be Noel, Olofsson, Miller, Kaut, Bokk, Hallander, Ginning, Alexeyev, Lundkvist, Samuelsson, Wise in that order. For our 3rd rounder, hopefully O'Brien is still available, but I like Kurashev and maybe Bahl falls to our 3rd rounder which would be a solid defensive pick. 5th round and on is surely hard to predict but Kristian Reichel, Milos Roman, Kyle Topping, or Justus Annunen would be good choices if still available. If Durzi is available in the 6th round or so, I wouldn't mind taking a look at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Bert Diesel said: I liked him in the top prospects game. Curiously Canucks Army left him out of their top 100. Its surprising since they are usually very thorough in regards to prospects. I think he'd be a good target for their 3rd round pick if he's not off the board yet. I don't recall seeing Jacob Bernard-Docker either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 8 hours ago, theo5789 said: Wasn't on my radar, but looking more into him and he would definitely be an interesting pick. Depends who's available when we pick. Earlier I mentioned my list, and I would put Alexeyev after Ginning and maybe bump Bahl to be a 3rd round pick as I don't think I'd use a 37th overall on him. I think Noel, Kaut, Miller, Bokk and possibly Samuellson go in the 1st round, but damn I would be happy with any of them dropping to our pick. Olofsson played with Dahlen didn't he for Timra, so there is that familiarity there that Benning always likes. There are the safe picks in dmen such as Ginning and Alexeyev in that they are both already very strong defensively. Take a look at Beaudin if you get a chance, he is considered one of the best passers in the draft on the back end, only 5ft11, but time to grow an inch or 2. Him and Lundqvist would be considered picks with higher ceilings. Here is a good article on Beaudin. https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/nhl-entry-draft-picks-2018/2018/5/2/17300656/nicolas-beaudin-2018-nhl-draft-prospect-profile-stats-highlights-scouting-puck-moving-defenceman The undersized defenceman is not a playmaker of the same calibre as some of the top blue-liners in the draft, like Ryan Merkley and Adam Boqvist, as he doesn't toy with with defenders in the same way, moving them to create scoring chances for himself and his team. No, Beaudin simply has a great awareness of what is going on around him at all times, and can feed pucks to teammates before the opposition has any chance to close off passing lanes. He is incredibly precise when moving the puck and can thread the needle to reach teammates even from across the ice. A lot of Beaudin's points are secondary assists, and this has to be stated to put his totals into perspective. But those points also originate from his ability to constantly create clean breakouts for his team, even under pressure. He is very calm with possession, and can bait forecheckers before giving the puck to his defence partner, setting him up for an easy zone exit. Beaudin is also adept at short saucer passes, and can directly spring his forwards into action. And when it strikes him, he can also carry the puck out of the zone himself all the way to the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: I don't recall seeing Jacob Bernard-Docker either? Looks like they don’t have Bernard-Docker in their top-100. Nor do they have Bahl. Also a couple Russians in Marchenko and Iskhakov (a commenter on their site noted these omissions) who are on many other top-100 lists. Not sure if some of these are accidental or if these players just didn’t score well on CA’s ranking methodology. Either way, I’m not gonna fault Biech and the other CA boys too much. Top-100 lists are pretty tough to put together without missing a few guys (either intentionally or unintentionally) that people think deserve to be included. But they have managed to create an interesting overall ranking with some lengthy, detailed profiles for each player on their list. It’s a great resource, as far as free draft rankings go, and has some fresh takes that are quite different from many other lists and reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 15 hours ago, Isam said: 2 goals in the last two seasons says otherwise in the shooting dept. ....I didn't say he could score... He has a good hard slapper and seems to get his wrister through to the net, he seems like he doesn't have much luck though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: ....I didn't say he could score... He has a good hard slapper and seems to get his wrister through to the net, he seems like he doesn't have much luck though.... That's ok. I got it. Still a little too high at 37 to be drafting him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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