Drive-By Body Pierce Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Quote Why Vancouver will be on the sidelines for the 2026 World Cup B.C. government axed city's participation, citing concerns about unilateral contract changes Mike Laanela · CBC News · Posted: Jun 13, 2018 9:34 AM PT | Last Updated: 5 hours ago The fact BC Place won't be hosting any World Cup matches in 2026 is 'extremely disappointing' to Vancouver Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi. (Vancouver Whitecaps) 92 comments The 2026 World Cup is coming to Canada, FIFA announced today — but Vancouver will be watching from the sidelines. That's because B.C.'s NDP government decided not to support the city's efforts to be part of the bid involving cities across Canada, U.S. and Mexico, citing concerns over the possible costs of being a host. In March, Tourism Minister Lisa Beare said the province didn't agree with the terms to host World Cup games put forward by the committee for the joint North American bid. B.C. confirms it's no longer part of the 2026 FIFA World Cup bid One of the first to criticize that decision on Wednesday morning was B.C. Liberal MLA Michelle Stillwell, who said that the 2015 FIFA Women's World Cup and the 2010 Winter Olympics have shown that international sporting events have provided benefits for B.C. Michelle Stilwell@Stilwell4BC Talk about fumbling a ball! US, Mexico and #Canada have been awarded the 2026 World Cup. Fantastic for all except the BC NDP pulled #Vancouver out of the bid so now B.C. misses their once in a lifetime opportunity to host the world class event. #fail#bcpoli 7:42 AM - Jun 13, 2018 48 74 people are talking about this Twitter Ads info and privacy "We can't just look at the infrastructure that was built: it's the long-term legacy, it's the inspiration, it's the community development, it's the volunteerism," Stilwell said. "It's the money that comes from all the tourists who would come and spend their dollars in Vancouver and around B.C. and stay and visit and enjoy everything B.C. has to offer." When asked about concerns around FIFA's demands of host cities, she accused the province of "forfeiting the game" by not negotiating a better deal from the international soccer body. Lenarduzzi 'extremely' disappointed Likewise, Vancouver Whitecaps president Bob Lenarduzzi says he's gutted his city won't be hosting any games. However, the former star of the national soccer team is still overjoyed the event is coming to Canada. Canada part of winning 2026 World Cup bid for men's soccer showcase "I think the most important thing is that Canada, the U.S. and Mexico have the World Cup. Being a part of 2026 will be hugely significant," Lenarduzzi said on Wednesday morning. "As far as us not having the potential to be one of these host venues, that is extremely disappointing. From a personal point of view, the opportunity to see a World Cup game in Vancouver would have been great." Despite the disappointment of not being able to see a World Cup game in Vancouver, Lenarduzzi said the fact Canada will automatically qualify in 2026 is hugely significant. (Whitecaps FC) Lenarduzzi stopped short of criticizing the government's decision to pull out of the bid. "I'm not privy to the decision-making process from the provincial government's perspective," he said. Unilateral changes rejected Beare issued a short response on Wednesday morning. "Our government has a responsibility to ensure that B.C. taxpayers are not on the hook for hidden costs. The province carefully assesses all sports events for value to taxpayers," she said. "The FIFA bid agreement contained clauses which the government felt left taxpayers at unacceptable risk of additional costs. We tried very hard to get assurances regarding our concerns. Unfortunately, those assurances were not forthcoming." Cities in line to host games during the 2026 World Cup include Edmonton, Toronto, Montreal, Cincinnati, Boston, New York/New Jersey, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, Nashville, Atlanta, Orlando, Miami, Kansas City, Denver, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico City. (CBC News) Previously, Beare said those concerns included FIFA being able to unilaterally change the stadium agreement at any point. FIFA 2026: Council to decide if Vancouver will move forward with bid The City of Vancouver originally supported the bid, but some others did not. Chicago and Minneapolis also withdrew, citing worries similar to the B.C. government's. Great for Canada Lenarduzzi, who was on the last Canadian men's team to play in a World Cup, in 1986, said one of the big wins is the automatic berth the national team now has in 2026. From the dinner table to FIFA council: How Canada's World Cup bid evolved "It meant a lot then — but the profile of the World Cup at that time is nowhere near what it is now and will be in 2026," he said. The Canadian team that secured qualification for the nation's first ever World Cup in 1986. (Canada Soccer / Flickr) For today's young stars — like Vancouver Whitecaps' 17-year-old Alphonso Davies — that will be huge. "By 2026 he'll be in his mid-20s. Look how much he has got to look forward to," Lenarduzzi said. Whitecaps star made final appeal Davies was part of the final presentation by the North American bid team at the FIFA Congress in Moscow this morning. 'Sky's the limit' for Alphonso Davies, the face of Canada's soccer future He told the congress how much playing for Canada would mean to him. His parents fled their home in Monrovia, Liberia, to escape a civil war, he said, and they ended up at a refugee camp in Ghana, where Davies was born. Vancouver Whitecaps' Alphonso Davies, centre, was part of the North American bid committee's presentation to FIFA. (Alexander Zemlianichenko/Associated Press) "It was a hard life. But when I was five years old, a country called Canada welcomed us in," he said. "And the boys on the football team made me feel at home. "... My dream is to some day compete in the World Cup, maybe even in my home town of Edmonton. "The people of North America have always welcomed me. If given the opportunity, I know they will welcome you," he said. With files from Liam Britten http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/why-vancouver-will-be-on-the-sidelines-for-the-2026-world-cup-1.4704024 Blah...I don't even know what to say other than, how could the BC government NOT make this work, somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 talk about a missed opportunity. we can host the Olympics, but not for a handful of world cup games. i went to the women's world cup at BC place few yrs ago, and it was nicely done. at least fans can go to Seattle and stimulate their economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 thats a shame...now i gotta go to deadmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Um, Michelle? Football isn't the same as football. You can't fumble a ball in the sport you're talking about. Moving on, I still find it hard to fault the NDP for not writing a blank cheque to an incredibly corrupt organization like FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanaholic Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 BRAIN DEAD POLITICIANS HERE . . . THAT is all I can say. I don't even like soccer and I don't even understand the game. WELL guess what my friend and I bought the entire package to go to the FIFA Women's when it was here and we had THE BEST TIME EVER . . . THANK U BC Politicians for NOTHING . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 FIFA wanted a blank cheque and the NDP said no. Thank you NDP for thinking about the people of BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1. I understand why the provincial government didn't want to accept the terms and conditions that FIFA presented to them 2. It still sucks that the World Cup likely won't be coming to Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Thanks ndp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I live outside of Vancouver. The estimate is between $25 and $50 million per event in security costs and hosting fees alone. My tax dollars would have gone to host this event that would have done nothing for me or my family. Our government would have been on the hook for any hidden fees without any actual guarantee of hosting a single game due to the movement clause. Look outside of your fandom for a moment and understand why that is important Keeping in mind, my tax dollars are still paying for a billion dollar convention centre in Vancouver and a $600 million renovation to a stadium I see once a year or so. Blank cheques written by governments without guarantee of return are simply stupid ideas which invariably cost the tax payer more than they return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Silky mitts said: Thanks ndp Its too bad Weaver wasn't a soccer fan instead of Rugby. Wasted opportunity to showcase Vancouver, but thats what you get with governments on certain parts of the spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Warhippy said: I live outside of Vancouver. The estimate is between $25 and $50 million per event in security costs and hosting fees alone. My tax dollars would have gone to host this event that would have done nothing for me or my family. Our government would have been on the hook for any hidden fees without any actual guarantee of hosting a single game due to the movement clause. Look outside of your fandom for a moment and understand why that is important meh, I live in Vancouver and tax dollars from here go to support things in the interior. Thats not a great argument. Its a missed opportunity for global attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I've got ZERO problems with this. NDP wanted assurances that FIFA wouldn't screw them, and actually honor any and all agreements in principle - no agreement, no deal, simple. FIFA, much like the IOC think they OWN local, provincial and federal governments and I'm perfectly ok with our government showing them they don't own BC taxpayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Fanuck said: I've got ZERO problems with this. NDP wanted assurances that FIFA wouldn't screw them, and actually honor any and all agreements in principle - no agreement, no deal, simple. FIFA, much like the IOC think they OWN local, provincial and federal governments and I'm perfectly ok with our government showing them they don't own BC taxpayers. and.... so we get nothing. Its too easy to get carried away with the risk side of these things, we did just fine with similar agreements with the IOC, and all the other cities were just fine with it. We're the outlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: meh, I live in Vancouver and tax dollars from here go to support things in the interior. Thats not a great argument. Its a missed opportunity for global attention. Vancouver is a wild class city they say. Why do they need attention? They're not a 20 year old girl on instagram I don't want to see a government writing blank cheques to private agencies. Like it or not that's why they said no and rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: and.... so we get nothing. Its too easy to get carried away with the risk side of these things, we did just fine with similar agreements with the IOC, and all the other cities were just fine with it. We're the outlier. So what? We get nothing. We're exactly where we were yesterday. Nothing to whine about, we didn't waste or gain anything. Edit*. Important to remember, that at ANY time venues can change. The US gets 60+ matches and Canada and Mexico are already fighting for more. Top say Vancouver won't see a game as of yet is a shade shortsighted for an event that is almost a decade away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Warhippy said: Vancouver is a wild class city they say. Why do they need attention? They're not a 20 year old girl on instagram I don't want to see a government writing blank cheques to private agencies. Like it or not that's why they said no and rightfully so. Sure, it was their call. You're fine with it, I think its a massive missed opportunity. Its not like the largest sporting event in the world is something you get to be part of every year. As far as attention goes, its a big world, of course you need to continue showcase Vancouver, nothing happens on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: So what? We get nothing. We're exactly where we were yesterday. Nothing to whine about, we didn't waste or gain anything. Edit*. Important to remember, that at ANY time venues can change. The US gets 60+ matches and Canada and Mexico are already fighting for more. Top say Vancouver won't see a game as of yet is a shade shortsighted for an event that is almost a decade away No we are not. We have lost an opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: Sure, it was their call. You're fine with it, I think its a massive missed opportunity. Its not like the largest sporting event in the world is something you get to be part of every year. As far as attention goes, its a big world, of course you need to continue showcase Vancouver, nothing happens on its own. Crowdfund it then. Enough crying footy fans ponying up the dough will get it paid for I am sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: No we are not. We have lost an opportunity. No we haven't. Still almost 9 years away. The matches have yet to be drawn as have the venues. Crying for the sake of crying is shortsighted and silly. An opportunity missed? Hardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 "The NDP wastes taxpayer money. They don't know how to balance a budget". *NDP refuses to make risky financial decision by dealing with an organization known for mis-spending money* "Stupid commies, get out the pitchforks, etc." I love how people simultaneously say that (1) this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to showcase Vancouver and (2) it is only a few games, what's the big deal. If it is only a few games and not really a big deal, is it really a missed once-in-a-lifetime opportunity? Would it really boost Vancouver's exposure that much beyond what it is like currently? It is also silly to think that, of the major NA cities, why would Vancouver be given premier games? East coast is more favorable/avoids more timezone issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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