sean_p47 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 There's been quite some noise regarding the possibility of John Tavares meeting with the Canucks and discussion about how we could make our selves seem like an attractive destination for him. It all starts with this years draft and what we are willing to do to address areas of concern such as grit in the bottom 6 and our defensive lineup. My proposal is the following: Sign John Tavares Sign Ryan Reaves Trade 1 To Carolina: 7th OA Hutton To Vancouver Hanifin 5th round pick Trade 2 To Florida (Had no problems coring goals 245 last season, could use help defensively 2838 shots allows 3rd worst in the league) Tanev Goldobin Sutter 37th OA Another draft pick to balance out value To Vancouver Bjugstad 15th OA (Wilde, Smith, or McIsaac) My choice Wilde 34thOA (Merkley, Bahl or Miller) My choice Merkley Trade Eriksson, Gagner, Del Zotto, & Granlund for whatever we can get (more picks) Pick up some bad contracts in exchange for picks eg. Spezza. (More picks) Potential Roster Line Up (Future) Dahlen Tavares Petterson Baertschi Horvat Boeser (maybe Lind replaces Baertschi) Gadjovich Gaudette Virtanen Arhchibald Bjugstad Reaves Hanifin Juolevi Wilde Merkley Gudbrandson Stetcher Pouliot Brisebois Demko Markstrom Tavares signing here is likely wishful thinking but who knows it could happen. Vancouver is a great place to live, we have an up and coming team with some potential superstars, and we could compete for the playoffs as early as the 2019-2020 season. We have a few assets that could help us stack up on picks in the later rounds of the draft or add to the depth of the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 hours ago, sean_p47 said: There's been quite some noise regarding the possibility of John Tavares meeting with the Canucks and discussion about how we could make our selves seem like an attractive destination for him. It all starts with this years draft and what we are willing to do to address areas of concern such as grit in the bottom 6 and our defensive lineup. My proposal is the following: Sign John Tavares Sign Ryan Reaves Trade 1 To Carolina: 7th OA Hutton To Vancouver Hanifin 5th round pick Trade 2 To Florida (Had no problems coring goals 245 last season, could use help defensively 2838 shots allows 3rd worst in the league) Tanev Goldobin Sutter 37th OA Another draft pick to balance out value To Vancouver Bjugstad 15th OA (Wilde, Smith, or McIsaac) My choice Wilde 34thOA (Merkley, Bahl or Miller) My choice Merkley Trade Eriksson, Gagner, Del Zotto, & Granlund for whatever we can get (more picks) Pick up some bad contracts in exchange for picks eg. Spezza. (More picks) Potential Roster Line Up (Future) Dahlen Tavares Petterson Baertschi Horvat Boeser (maybe Lind replaces Baertschi) Gadjovich Gaudette Virtanen Arhchibald Bjugstad Reaves Hanifin Juolevi Wilde Merkley Gudbrandson Stetcher Pouliot Brisebois Demko Markstrom Tavares signing here is likely wishful thinking but who knows it could happen. Vancouver is a great place to live, we have an up and coming team with some potential superstars, and we could compete for the playoffs as early as the 2019-2020 season. We have a few assets that could help us stack up on picks in the later rounds of the draft or add to the depth of the lineup. it is a bit of a reach to get tavares and even more of a reach to get him and reeves but who could say no to getting those 2 quality free asses i do think edler might still be good enough to make it into the d lineup certainly is better then the bottom 4 you listed and might still be the best of the entire lot so i'd be inclined to add him rather then vaporize him like you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old school nuck Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 quality free asses are better then none for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, sean_p47 said: There's been quite some noise regarding the possibility of John Tavares meeting with the Canucks and discussion about how we could make our selves seem like an attractive destination for him. It all starts with this years draft and what we are willing to do to address areas of concern such as grit in the bottom 6 and our defensive lineup. My proposal is the following: Sign John Tavares Sign Ryan Reaves Trade 1 To Carolina: 7th OA Hutton To Vancouver Hanifin 5th round pick Trade 2 To Florida (Had no problems coring goals 245 last season, could use help defensively 2838 shots allows 3rd worst in the league) Tanev Goldobin Sutter 37th OA Another draft pick to balance out value To Vancouver Bjugstad 15th OA (Wilde, Smith, or McIsaac) My choice Wilde 34thOA (Merkley, Bahl or Miller) My choice Merkley Trade Eriksson, Gagner, Del Zotto, & Granlund for whatever we can get (more picks) Pick up some bad contracts in exchange for picks eg. Spezza. (More picks) Potential Roster Line Up (Future) Dahlen Tavares Petterson Baertschi Horvat Boeser (maybe Lind replaces Baertschi) Gadjovich Gaudette Virtanen Arhchibald Bjugstad Reaves Hanifin Juolevi Wilde Merkley Gudbrandson Stetcher Pouliot Brisebois Demko Markstrom Tavares signing here is likely wishful thinking but who knows it could happen. Vancouver is a great place to live, we have an up and coming team with some potential superstars, and we could compete for the playoffs as early as the 2019-2020 season. We have a few assets that could help us stack up on picks in the later rounds of the draft or add to the depth of the lineup. Okay more EA Hockey imagination trades...Easy to make those kind of trades in EA Hockey.. We will make a few trades but no block buster moves, We are on rebuild... Tavares Not coming to Vancouver...NYI finished a head of Vancouver.. He is 27 if not staying with NYI, he would go to 1. Vegas 2. Toronto 3. Sharks 4. New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe Silvia Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Trades are a little far fetched. Also that defensive core would get torn apart. What happened to Edler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_p47 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 19 hours ago, coastal.view said: it is a bit of a reach to get tavares and even more of a reach to get him and reeves but who could say no to getting those 2 quality free asses i do think edler might still be good enough to make it into the d lineup certainly is better then the bottom 4 you listed and might still be the best of the entire lot so i'd be inclined to add him rather then vaporize him like you did lol I wasn't vaporizing him, I don't expect the Canucks to sign him once his contract is over so simply assumed he wouldn't be a part of the core moving forward. I agree though that he is much better than Gudbrandson, Stetcher, Pouliot and Brisebois and likely will be for the next 1-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_p47 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Pepe Silvia said: Trades are a little far fetched. Also that defensive core would get torn apart. What happened to Edler? The first trade is more so what I would give up for Hanifin. Its likely CAR is asking for the 7th OA. However, I don't perceive Hanifin's value to be significantly more than a top 10 pick (but it is slightly more). CAR gets Hutton to replace Hanifin and Vancouver gets a top pairing defenseman. I think the value is pretty reasonable. If you disagree, it would be nice to know why. Swapping 2nds Tanev for the 15th Sutter and Goldobin for Bjugstad Swapping 2nd rounders to even the value a little for adding in Goldobin to the trade. FLA drops 3 spots and we move up 3 spots in the 2nd round which could possibly be had by adding a late draft pick on its own. Sutter replaces Bjugstad as the better defensive forward and FLA gets an up and coming winger with a decent skill set. We get a big body center that can add some toughness and a somewhat of a physical presence to the bottom 6 along side Archibald. Tanev is great at supressing shots and with Sutter can add some stability to Florida's defensive game. FLA did give up close to 2900 shots and still had a decent record. If they could cut that down by even 10% with a better defensive effort, hypothetically they may have made the playoffs. Its not a blockbuster trade at all. Its simple asset management and fulfilling team needs. Given the trade history between these two teams, its not as outlandish and far fetched as it may seem. The lineup was a future projection. I don't think Edler will be with us the next 1-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_p47 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 19 hours ago, wildcam said: Okay more EA Hockey imagination trades...Easy to make those kind of trades in EA Hockey.. We will make a few trades but no block buster moves, We are on rebuild... Tavares Not coming to Vancouver...NYI finished a head of Vancouver.. He is 27 if not staying with NYI, he would go to 1. Vegas 2. Toronto 3. Sharks 4. New Jersey Actually not that easy in EA hockey. Trade 1 might be considered a blockbuster (sort of) Trade 2 is definitely not a blockbuster. Didn't know you spoke to Tavares. If he is not staying with NYI, every team has a fair shot at landing him and with the amount of cap we have available there's no reason to believe we cant make him an interesting offer (from a financial point of view). You would be surprised at how motivating a few extra million dollars can be with added job security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead73 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 If we are going to dream about tempting Tavares to sign in Vancouver we get him and Carlson together in the same room and show them the money. We have some talented wingers in Boeser and Petterson plus Horvat as a solid #2 center. If we get Tryamkin back after next year Edler Tanev and Carlson make a solid top 4 You could make a case for a solid team going forward... with the right supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, sean_p47 said: lol I wasn't vaporizing him, I don't expect the Canucks to sign him once his contract is over so simply assumed he wouldn't be a part of the core moving forward. I agree though that he is much better than Gudbrandson, Stetcher, Pouliot and Brisebois and likely will be for the next 1-3 years. your proposal is for now? or isn't it? tavares is a free agent now you have listed a number of dmen what do you propose to do with edler now... this season he has a contract for this season he is on the team and on the roster ? soooo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 This draft year is very deep in dmen, next year is deep in centers. No star FA will sign with the Canucks as the team is now, there is just no reason as many teams can afford to pay them what they want. Linden has stated that he believes that Baerstchi and Leipsic will fill the void left by the Sedins, I guess that means Leipsic is guaranteed a spot which is too bad because it takes up a prospects spot. The team should get a decent draft pick next year. As a laffer, watch the Nucks finish DFL and the #5 spot gets the #1, just Canuck luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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