-AJ- 12,816 Posted October 29 2 hours ago, TheAce said: A big part of this is how useless Edler was on the PP. He was constantly thrown on the number 1 unit but doesnt have the offensive mindset that Hughes has Not sure what Edler you were watching, but Edler was fantastic on the PP. Put up tons of points. Hughes looks great too, but Edler was not a problem on the PP. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
48MPHSlapShot 11,085 Posted October 29 27 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Not sure what Edler you were watching, but Edler was fantastic on the PP. Put up tons of points. Hughes looks great too, but Edler was not a problem on the PP. I love me some Edler and all, but it seems to me as though too many times Edler would just choose to shoot the puck at the net when he didn't have a lane and just wind up hitting someone in the skate and coughing up position. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Marchand 7,211 Posted October 29 1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I love me some Edler and all, but it seems to me as though too many times Edler would just choose to shoot the puck at the net when he didn't have a lane and just wind up hitting someone in the skate and coughing up position. I think Hughes' tendency to move around with the puck helps keep the other guys on the powerplay moving, which opens up more passing lanes. Edler tends to act as more of a static buffer at the point, moreso focused on getting the puck on net or passing it off to Petey or Brock. 1 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
48MPHSlapShot 11,085 Posted October 29 Just now, Brad Marchand said: I think Hughes' tendency to move around with the puck helps keep the other guys on the powerplay moving, which opens up more passing lanes. Edler tends to act as more of a static buffer at the point, moreso focused on getting the puck on net or passing it off to Petey or Brock. That's a really good point. I don't know how many times I've yelled at my TV for guys to move their feet and actually cycle a bit over the past couple of years. Hughes, being the dynamic player he is, kinda forces the issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aGENT 28,439 Posted October 29 (edited) --- Edited October 29 by aGENT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAce 335 Posted October 29 15 hours ago, -AJ- said: Not sure what Edler you were watching, but Edler was fantastic on the PP. Put up tons of points. Hughes looks great too, but Edler was not a problem on the PP. Our PP was struggling when Edler was on the point at the start of the season..... Its really turned around ever since Hughes was moved up to the number 1 unit. Edler , much like Ohlund, was kind of thrown in that situation out of a not really having anyone else. I find there to be a huge difference in puck carrying and not rushing the shot or play with Hughes as opposed to Edler who more times than not would bumble the puck at the blue line or blasting the puck into the defenders shin pads Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanukfanatic 5,678 Posted October 30 22 hours ago, TheAce said: A big part of this is how useless Edler was on the PP. He was constantly thrown on the number 1 unit but doesnt have the offensive mindset that Hughes has Alex Edler. One of the best Canuck defensemen ever. And you, the basement dwelling poster, call him useless??? Come on.... 2 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glug Datt 837 Posted October 30 21 hours ago, Brad Marchand said: I think Hughes' tendency to move around with the puck helps keep the other guys on the powerplay moving, which opens up more passing lanes. Edler tends to act as more of a static buffer at the point, moreso focused on getting the puck on net or passing it off to Petey or Brock. bingo.. I suspect the plan was to have Hughes on PP1 all along, but TG maybe wanted to give him some time to get comfortable.. anyways the pp is way more dangerous & exciting now.. no more carbon copy drop pass bullsh.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAce 335 Posted October 31 23 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Alex Edler. One of the best Canuck defensemen ever. And you, the basement dwelling poster, call him useless??? Come on.... Actually several posters on here have admitted that Edler would be much better suited as a 3/4 d-man . He was thrown into a top pairing role because we didnt have anyone else. Canucks were 22nd in the league last year on the PP and it has been a puck moving D-man has been a huge need for this team. Our PP this year started off poorly and the only switch that was made was Hughes for Edler and there has been a noticeable difference. basement dweller poster ? are you still in high school by any chance ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanukfanatic 5,678 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, TheAce said: Actually several posters on here have admitted that Edler would be much better suited as a 3/4 d-man . He was thrown into a top pairing role because we didnt have anyone else. Canucks were 22nd in the league last year on the PP and it has been a puck moving D-man has been a huge need for this team. Our PP this year started off poorly and the only switch that was made was Hughes for Edler and there has been a noticeable difference. basement dweller poster ? are you still in high school by any chance ? No. I am old. But your post was bad in that you called Edler useless... ...I figured only a teenager that doesn't know better would type something so dumb. Edler useless? Slap yourself in the face. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dixon Ward 1,690 Posted October 31 (edited) Hughes is currently tied with Makar and Dahlin all with 10 pts. He is also top 10 I. Defenseman scoring and tied for 1st in rookie scoring. Also has games in hand on most of those around him Edited October 31 by Dixon Ward 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aGENT 28,439 Posted October 31 (edited) 21 hours ago, TheAce said: Actually several posters on here have admitted that Edler would be much better suited as a 3/4 d-man . He was thrown into a top pairing role because we didnt have anyone else. Canucks were 22nd in the league last year on the PP and it has been a puck moving D-man has been a huge need for this team. Our PP this year started off poorly and the only switch that was made was Hughes for Edler and there has been a noticeable difference. basement dweller poster ? are you still in high school by any chance ? And those posters, as always, are wrong. He's a #2D. Always has been and continues to be. That doesn't make him a PPQB or even a PMD though. He's a minute munching, 2 way, #2D with some physicality. I'll take that on my team any day. Too many people have been in a hurry to throw out the baby with the bath water because he's never been a #1D or PPQB/PMD. Tossing aside perfectly good players just because you lack other better or complimentary ones, is just plain stupid. Edited October 31 by aGENT 3 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenAlien 1,670 Posted October 31 (edited) Edited October 31 by GoldenAlien 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
48MPHSlapShot 11,085 Posted October 31 Okay @Alflives, NOW you can say that Hughes is better than Dahlin Hughes- 12 games 1 goal 9 assists +2 Dahlin- 13 games- 1 goal 9 assists -2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken. 1,969 Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Okay @Alflives, NOW you can say that Hughes is better than Dahlin Hughes- 12 games 1 goal 9 assists +2 Dahlin- 13 games- 1 goal 9 assists -2 Quinn is heating up as his confidence increases. Awesome to see. Hopefully he continues to handle the physical battles well with his smarts, skating, and stick work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alflives 30,126 Posted October 31 5 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Okay @Alflives, NOW you can say that Hughes is better than Dahlin Hughes- 12 games 1 goal 9 assists +2 Dahlin- 13 games- 1 goal 9 assists -2 And we got him at 7 OA!!! We got Petey at 5 and Bess at 23!!! Bo was 9!!!! Finally, even with our bad lottery luck, we have an elite young core. Oh, and we got Demko in round two!!!! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HerrDrFunk 13,164 Posted October 31 (edited) Anyone remember after the 2018 draft when @TheGuardian_ bitched and moaned about how the Canucks drafted the worst of the top rated D not named Dahlin? Boqvist Bouchard Dobson Edited October 31 by HerrDrFunk 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alflives 30,126 Posted October 31 6 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Anyone remember after the 2018 draft when @TheGuardian_ bitched and moaned about how the Canucks drafted the worst of the top rated D not named Dahlin? Boqvist Bouchard Dobson Cue a Troll response. Just waiting for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy McGill 28,607 Posted October 31 32 minutes ago, Alflives said: And we got him at 7 OA!!! We got Petey at 5 and Bess at 23!!! Bo was 9!!!! Finally, even with our bad lottery luck, we have an elite young core. Oh, and we got Demko in round two!!!! Juolevi seems to be picking up right where he left off too. And Jake seems to be finding himself on Bo's wing. This time next year we might not have a Benning 1st rounder to whine about. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alflives 30,126 Posted October 31 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: Juolevi seems to be picking up right where he left off too. And Jake seems to be finding himself on Bo's wing. This time next year we might not have a Benning 1st rounder to whine about. Yup. TBay will be picking 31st OA. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites