Steven Stamkos Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Alflives said: So what you’re saying is you’re more of a Buffalo fan than our fan. That’s okay, but why not go to your own board and say that Dahlin is better than Hughes? Why come here unless you’re looking to upset real Canuck’s fans? Stupid Alf bit again So by this logic: Pettersson > McDavid Boeser > Ovechkin Horvat > Crosby ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Alflives said: So what you’re saying is you’re more of a Buffalo fan than our fan. That’s okay, but why not go to your own board and say that Dahlin is better than Hughes? Why come here unless you’re looking to upset real Canuck’s fans? Stupid Alf bit again Come on, Alf, be reasonable. Fans can be critical of players from their own teams and of course can still think that not all their players are the best in their respective positions. I personally admire fans who make a concerted effort to remain objective in their analysis while passionately cheering on a team. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Edited January 24, 2020 by redhdlois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob_Zepp Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, redhdlois said: Is it me or does Hughes look like a kid who won a lottery to get a picture with his heroes? This is even more telling when one of the heroes (EP40) looks like if he started a playoff beard now, it would be ready for the 2022 run. Gawd are these guys getting younger and younger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kanukfanatic Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Steven Stamkos said: Being a Canucks fan means you should be a hockey fan first, appreciate the game and players in it. No it doesn't. Edit: be a Canuck fan first. Appreciate our players. Then if you really need to, like a player or two in the east. 2nd Edit: ...but not Toronto. They all suk!! Edited January 24, 2020 by Kanukfanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WeneedLumme Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: It's amazing that he has shown enough already that the idea of a long term contract for him is not unreasonable, while at the same time, he is young enough that he could get a fairly long term and still be an RFA at the end of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 58 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: It's amazing that he has shown enough already that the idea of a long term contract for him is not unreasonable, while at the same time, he is young enough that he could get a fairly long term and still be an RFA at the end of it! I anticipate something like Provorov's deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, aGENT said: I anticipate something like Provorov's deal. I would expect a similar AAV to Provorov's deal if Quinn signed at the end of this season. If they wait until after next season, it would depend on what he does after this year. But I would think that the team would try for a shorter term, like 4 years, to keep him RFA. Probably backloaded to discourage offer sheets. If they were going to get into Quinn's UFA years, I imagine the Canucks would want to go for the max 8 years. But I don't think either the team or QH would that enthusiastic about taking an 8 year gamble at this point for the price the other side would be willing to agree to, so it would probably be very tough to reach agreement on that term. Edited January 24, 2020 by WeneedLumme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Article about Quinn's trip to the ASG. Talks about his best buds the Tketchup Bros. Comments from MacKinnon and Pronger. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/quinn-hughes-winning-peers-first-star-weekend/?shawct=1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 One thing to consider in regards to Hughes' next deal is that his camp has already given the Canucks a discount. Hughes doesn't have any schedule B bonuses in his ELC, whereas Pettersson has the maximum allowed. This gives Hughes' camp the ability to say that they already gave the team a break, now they team should ready to pay him. This is what happened with Marner and the Leafs this past summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: One thing to consider in regards to Hughes' next deal is that his camp has already given the Canucks a discount. Hughes doesn't have any schedule B bonuses in his ELC, whereas Pettersson has the maximum allowed. This gives Hughes' camp the ability to say that they already gave the team a break, now they team should ready to pay him. This is what happened with Marner and the Leafs this past summer. Difference is Dubas is a weakling who caved to Princess and got bent over by Matthews. Marner finished him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, higgyfan said: Article about Quinn's trip to the ASG. Talks about his best buds the Tketchup Bros. Comments from MacKinnon and Pronger. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/quinn-hughes-winning-peers-first-star-weekend/?shawct=1 So much for JB getting prospects with character!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: One thing to consider in regards to Hughes' next deal is that his camp has already given the Canucks a discount. Hughes doesn't have any schedule B bonuses in his ELC, whereas Pettersson has the maximum allowed. This gives Hughes' camp the ability to say that they already gave the team a break, now they team should ready to pay him. This is what happened with Marner and the Leafs this past summer. Haha. Calling that a discount is interesting. More likely his lawyer agent got Hughes what he thought he deserved. That is a stretch there pal... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Haha. Calling that a discount is interesting. More likely his lawyer agent got Hughes what he thought he deserved. That is a stretch there pal... Agreed. Pettersson won SHL Championship and MVP going into his contract. He deserved to get paid more. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Horvat is a Boss said: One thing to consider in regards to Hughes' next deal is that his camp has already given the Canucks a discount. Hughes doesn't have any schedule B bonuses in his ELC, whereas Pettersson has the maximum allowed. This gives Hughes' camp the ability to say that they already gave the team a break, now they team should ready to pay him. This is what happened with Marner and the Leafs this past summer. Only kicker is, like Boeser, Hughes has zero arbitration rights. Can't be offer-sheeted and can't go to the arbitrator. There's is not much he can do besides hold out and negotiate. That said D don't usually sign for monster deals out of their ELC so with all that said I am not too worried about his next deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: 37 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Only kicker is, like Boeser, Hughes has zero arbitration rights. Can't be offer-sheeted and can't go to the arbitrator. There's is not much he can do besides hold out and negotiate. That said D don't usually sign for monster deals out of their ELC so with all that said I am not too worried about his next deal. Isn't a bit sad how Rick couldn't be bothered to add this part "Hughes has zero arbitration rights. Can't be offer-sheeted and can't go to the arbitrator." to his tweet? Does it draw more attention to not say all the facts? Edit If Hughes can't go to arbitration, and can't get offer sheeted, why would you say Bisson is in a good position.? I'm sure the Canucks and Hughes will come to an agreeable deal, but I don't think Bisson or Hughes hold the power here, at least for this upcoming deal. Edited January 25, 2020 by gurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said: Haha. Calling that a discount is interesting. More likely his lawyer agent got Hughes what he thought he deserved. That is a stretch there pal... "Discount" was probably the wrong way to phrase it. What I meant was that Hughes' camp can say that he has been underpaid for his contributions thus far, not that they accepted a lower deal than what they wanted at the time. 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: Only kicker is, like Boeser, Hughes has zero arbitration rights. Can't be offer-sheeted and can't go to the arbitrator. There's is not much he can do besides hold out and negotiate. That said D don't usually sign for monster deals out of their ELC so with all that said I am not too worried about his next deal. Good point on the arbitration rights. I would absolutely look to lock Hughes (and Pettersson) up for 8 years. I wasn't a fan of the term on Boeser's deal because now, if he earns it at the end of his deal, he could be much more expensive to re-sign (with the cap going up and such) compared to if we just committed to him now. With Hughes, hopefully the Chabot deal can be used as a comparable (8 years, 8 million cap hit per and Hughes is scoring at a slightly lower rate with a smaller sample size) signed with one year left on his ELC. For Pettersson, hopefully the Eichel deal will be the comparable there (8 years, 10 million cap hit per after scoring at a slightly lower rate than Pettersson and missing time with an injury signed with one year left on his ELC). I would definitely go for term with these deals though. Any bridge will just make them that much more expensive. As much as our team has improved short term, we should still have a long term outlook on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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