dpn1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, stawns said: He'll get the same training opportunities in Utica. They play a very college-like schedule. The Comets seem to play Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Usually they play 3 games a week on average. Also, they don't travel a ton either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, stawns said: He'll get the same training opportunities in Utica. They play a very college-like schedule. Northeastern's regular season: 34 games. Comets' regular season: 76 games. Northeastern's playoffs: up to 9 games. Comets' playoffs: up to 26 games. Total (maximum): Northeastern: 43 games Comets: 102 games The NCAA offers far more training and rest time -- and far fewer guys who'll elbow you in the head and take you out for 20 games. Gaudreau, who was drafted at 5'6", 137lbs, spent three seasons in college even though Calgary wanted him to turn pro after his sophomore year. He went on to score 2 PPG as a junior and the extra time allowed him to be more NHL ready (he's now listed at 165lbs). Even Boeser, who was already 191lbs at the draft and scored 60pts in 42 games as a freshman, stayed for a second year. Madden is 150 lbs. If he wants to play a gritty style in the NHL, he needs to add at least 30lbs. For comparison, Baertsch is 5'11, 190lbs and he's not exactly a bulldozer out there. Unless he blows the door off and runs away with the Hobey Baker next season, I think Madden would be better served to play three years in college like Gaudette. John Madden didn't even start college hockey until he was 20 years old and played all four years, and he turned out just fine. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, stawns said: He'll get the same training opportunities in Utica. They play a very college-like schedule. That’s true. But I think guys have an easier time really focusing in on their individual training when they stay at school. Making the pro jump brings a lot of adjustments and demands, so it’s a little tougher to work a training program, even if they have a similar playing schedule and days off. EDIT: also, the collegiate schedule is maybe 40 games, including tournaments. AHL can be over double that, if you make playoffs. LOL: didn’t see post above. Lays out my edit really well. Edited March 22, 2019 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 8:44 PM, RetroCanuck said: If I remember right Gaudette had better wingers as well He did in his 2nd and 3rd years. But Gaudette in his first year wasn’t the number 1 Center so likely played less minutes with the same type of wingers as Madden is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: That’s true. But I think guys have an easier time really focusing in on their individual training when they stay at school. Making the pro jump brings a lot of adjustments and demands, so it’s a little tougher to work a training program, even if they have a similar playing schedule and days off. EDIT: also, the collegiate schedule is maybe 40 games, including tournaments. AHL can be over double that, if you make playoffs. LOL: didn’t see post above. Lays out my edit really well. I don't disagree, but the AHL. Is a decent option for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, GoldenAlien said: Northeastern's regular season: 34 games. Comets' regular season: 76 games. Northeastern's playoffs: up to 9 games. Comets' playoffs: up to 26 games. Total (maximum): Northeastern: 43 games Comets: 102 games The NCAA offers far more training and rest time -- and far fewer guys who'll elbow you in the head and take you out for 20 games. Gaudreau, who was drafted at 5'6", 137lbs, spent three seasons in college even though Calgary wanted him to turn pro after his sophomore year. He went on to score 2 PPG as a junior and the extra time allowed him to be more NHL ready (he's now listed at 165lbs). Even Boeser, who was already 191lbs at the draft and scored 60pts in 42 games as a freshman, stayed for a second year. Madden is 150 lbs. If he wants to play a gritty style in the NHL, he needs to add at least 30lbs. For comparison, Baertsch is 5'11, 190lbs and he's not exactly a bulldozer out there. Unless he blows the door off and runs away with the Hobey Baker next season, I think Madden would be better served to play three years in college like Gaudette. John Madden didn't even start college hockey until he was 20 years old and played all four years, and he turned out just fine. No disagreement here. I'm just saying if he wants to turn pro, the AHL is a good option as he gets pro games and a pretty good training/practice schedule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MattJVD Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Northeastern wins! Madden finishes with 1 G, 6 SOG, and a +1. Final score 2-1 Edit: lol of course VC beats me to it Edited March 22, 2019 by MattJVD 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rollieo Del Fuego Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 28 points in 35 games...while being a pest on defence is just .....awesome for a freshman. Madden is going to need one more year to bulk up and then watch out...! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nucker 67 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 The boys (Murphy, Shah and Auld) were raving about Madden during intermission (ANA), and it sounds like he'll be a very good player. Madden is a (small) C though and they've already got Pettersson, Horvat and Gaudette ahead of him on the depth chart. (not including Beagle and Sutter) And what if Benning drafts a C at the Draft? (Hughes, Dach, Turcotte, Zegras) Can Madden play wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specz Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: The boys (Murphy, Shah and Auld) were raving about Madden during intermission (ANA), and it sounds like he'll be a very good player. Madden is a (small) C though and they've already got Pettersson, Horvat and Gaudette ahead of him on the depth chart. (not including Beagle and Sutter) And what if Benning drafts a C at the Draft? (Hughes, Dach, Turcotte, Zegras) Can Madden play wing? He played wing in the U18 World Juniors this year and was one of the best players on the US team that won Silver. He was more noticeable than Jack Hughes in the tournament. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Specz said: He played wing in the U18 World Juniors this year and was one of the best players on the US team that won Silver. He was more noticeable than Jack Hughes in the tournament. J. Hughes also missed the majority of the tournament with an injury and most likely played injured for the games he did play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: The boys (Murphy, Shah and Auld) were raving about Madden during intermission (ANA), and it sounds like he'll be a very good player. Madden is a (small) C though and they've already got Pettersson, Horvat and Gaudette ahead of him on the depth chart. (not including Beagle and Sutter) And what if Benning drafts a C at the Draft? (Hughes, Dach, Turcotte, Zegras) Can Madden play wing? Pretty rare for a centre to have a hard time shifting to being a winger. Madden has the drive and offensive tools this team needs. 1 more year in the NCAA and then fighting for a spot in the NHL. Love how Benning has been drafting high character guys. Love the way this team is shaping up going forward. _(Zegras)_-Pettersson-Boeser Leivo-Horvat-Madden Virtanen-Gaudette-Lind Lockwood-Sturm-MacEwen Hughes-Woo Juolevi-__(Seider)_ Tryamkin-Stecher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/26/2019 at 11:00 PM, RetroCanuck said: Pretty rare for a centre to have a hard time shifting to being a winger. Madden has the drive and offensive tools this team needs. 1 more year in the NCAA and then fighting for a spot in the NHL. Love how Benning has been drafting high character guys. Love the way this team is shaping up going forward. _(Zegras)_-Pettersson-Boeser Leivo-Horvat-Madden Virtanen-Gaudette-Lind Lockwood-Sturm-MacEwen Hughes-Woo Juolevi-__(Seider)_ Tryamkin-Stecher This team would run over in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) Tyler Madden has now moved into the 1st round of a theoretical redraft. By far the latest pick (#68) of anyone else on the list. First round: 1. Rasmus Dahlin, D (taken 1st by Buffalo)2. Andrei Svechnikov, RW (taken 2nd by Carolina)3. Jesperi Kotkaniemi, C (taken 3rd by Montreal)4. Brady Tkachuk, LW (taken 4th by Ottawa)5. Quinn Hughes, D (taken 7th by Vancouver)6. Vitali Kravtsov, LW (taken 9th by NY Rangers)7. Grigori Denisenko, LW (taken 15th by Florida)8. Filip Zadina, LW (taken 6th by Detroit)9. Barrett Hayton, C (taken 5th by Arizona)10. Noah Dobson, D (taken 12th by NY Islanders)11. Adam Boqvist, D (taken 8th by Chicago)12. Evan Bouchard, D (taken 10th by Edmonton)13. Rasmus Kupari, C (taken 20th by Los Angeles)14. Ty Smith, D (taken 17th by New Jersey)15. Joel Farabee, LW (taken 14th by Philadelphia)16. Rasmus Sandin, D (taken 29th by Toronto)17. Oliver Wahlstrom, RW (taken 11th by NY Islanders)18. Dominik Bokk, RW (taken 25th by St. Louis)19. Alexander Romanov, D (taken 38th by Montreal)20. Isac Lundestrom, C (taken 23rd by Anaheim)21. Ty Dellandrea, C (taken 13th by Dallas)22. Joe Veleno, C (taken 30th by Detroit)23. Nicolas Beaudin, D (taken 27th by Chicago)24. Liam Foudy, C (taken 18th by Columbus)25. Alexander Alexeyev, D (taken 31st by Washington)26. Martin Kaut, RW (taken 16th by Colorado)27. Bode Wilde, D (taken 41st by NY Islanders)28. K’Andre Miller, D (taken 22nd by NY Rangers)29. Akil Thomas, D (taken 51st by Los Angeles)30. Jacob Bernard-Docker, D (taken 26th by Ottawa)31. Tyler Madden, C (taken 68th by Vancouver) Early second round: 32. Serron Noel, RW (taken 34th by Florida)33. Jonatan Berggren, C (taken 33rd by Detroit)34. Scott Perunovich, D (taken 45th by St. Louis)35. Martin Fehervary, D (taken 46th by Washington)36. Ryan Merkley, D (taken 21st by San Jose)37. Jared McIsaac, D (taken 36th by Detroit) https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/re-doing-the-2018-draft-how-would-it-unfold-today Edited March 29, 2019 by 'NucK™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: Tyler Madden has now moved into the 1st round for a theoretical redraft. First round: 1. Rasmus Dahlin, D (taken 1st by Buffalo)2. Andrei Svechnikov, RW (taken 2nd by Carolina)3. Jesperi Kotkaniemi, C (taken 3rd by Montreal)4. Brady Tkachuk, LW (taken 4th by Ottawa)5. Quinn Hughes, D (taken 7th by Vancouver)6. Vitali Kravtsov, LW (taken 9th by NY Rangers)7. Grigori Denisenko, LW (taken 15th by Florida)8. Filip Zadina, LW (taken 6th by Detroit)9. Barrett Hayton, C (taken 5th by Arizona)10. Noah Dobson, D (taken 12th by NY Islanders)11. Adam Boqvist, D (taken 8th by Chicago)12. Evan Bouchard, D (taken 10th by Edmonton)13. Rasmus Kupari, C (taken 20th by Los Angeles)14. Ty Smith, D (taken 17th by New Jersey)15. Joel Farabee, LW (taken 14th by Philadelphia)16. Rasmus Sandin, D (taken 29th by Toronto)17. Oliver Wahlstrom, RW (taken 11th by NY Islanders)18. Dominik Bokk, RW (taken 25th by St. Louis)19. Alexander Romanov, D (taken 38th by Montreal)20. Isac Lundestrom, C (taken 23rd by Anaheim)21. Ty Dellandrea, C (taken 13th by Dallas)22. Joe Veleno, C (taken 30th by Detroit)23. Nicolas Beaudin, D (taken 27th by Chicago)24. Liam Foudy, C (taken 18th by Columbus)25. Alexander Alexeyev, D (taken 31st by Washington)26. Martin Kaut, RW (taken 16th by Colorado)27. Bode Wilde, D (taken 41st by NY Islanders)28. K’Andre Miller, D (taken 22nd by NY Rangers)29. Akil Thomas, D (taken 51st by Los Angeles)30. Jacob Bernard-Docker, D (taken 26th by Ottawa)31. Tyler Madden, C (taken 68th by Vancouver) Early second round: 32. Serron Noel, RW (taken 34th by Florida)33. Jonatan Berggren, C (taken 33rd by Detroit)34. Scott Perunovich, D (taken 45th by St. Louis)35. Martin Fehervary, D (taken 46th by Washington)36. Ryan Merkley, D (taken 21st by San Jose)37. Jared McIsaac, D (taken 36th by Detroit) https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/re-doing-the-2018-draft-how-would-it-unfold-today Interesting that they stopped at 37. I think Woo will be at least topping that 2nd round or even getting in the 1st round himself as Madden continues to climb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 8:19 AM, vannuck59 said: This team would run over in the playoffs It wouldn't even make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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