Phat Fingers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 12/27/2019 at 8:48 PM, VancouverHabitant said: They finally posted the boxscore Toni played 16:22 minutes and posted the Loui Eriksson special, zeros across the board Thats okay as a d man, terrible for a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: It has nothing to do with "this site" in any way at all. All hockey fans are like that (other than about .05%) as really good defensive hockey is boring as hell. Every time NJ beat teams with their trap system fans hated the games. It has nothing to do with THIS SITE. Why are you yelling? It's the CdC. Someone will always project all prospects solely based on points, and then there are others that will claim that plus minus is a key indicator for development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Locke Lamora said: The Fins just performed a defensive clinic vs the U.S. Utunen was a big part of that. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Don’t know if Canada is going to win against Finland in the Semis, but something tells me Utunen will be on the scoreboard with points tomorrow, this guy seems to thrive on scoring against Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Don’t know if Canada is going to win against Finland in the Semis, but something tells me Utunen will be on the scoreboard with points tomorrow... The semifinal games are this Saturday, not Friday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 We should expect Utunen to look above average given that he is returning to this tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VancouveriteinSanDiego2 Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2020 So is Toni basically a Chris tanrv replacement because nothing wrong with that 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) I wonder if Benning will sign him in the off season? He's progressing nicely, and I would like to see what he can do in Utica next year. Edited January 4, 2020 by xereau 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, VancouveriteinSanDiego2 said: So is Toni basically a Chris tanrv replacement because nothing wrong with that Good comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe-max Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 hours ago, VancouveriteinSanDiego2 said: So is Toni basically a Chris tanrv replacement because nothing wrong with that Looks like it. Calm, has some skill, but always plays is safe, great positioning and gap control, won't outmuscle anyone, but plays smart and efficient, doesn't make mistakes, coaches trust him. Not flashy at all, but when he's on the ice it feels like everything is under control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, joe-max said: Looks like it. Calm, has some skill, but always plays is safe, great positioning and gap control, won't outmuscle anyone, but plays smart and efficient, doesn't make mistakes, coaches trust him. Not flashy at all, but when he's on the ice it feels like everything is under control. Not bad for a 5th rounder, jB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouveriteinSanDiego2 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: Not bad for a 5th rounder, jB. good steady shutdown always need them and good thing about them too is cap hits arnt always crazy high so its a win ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: Not bad for a 5th rounder, jB. Fantenberg like? That’s a good player to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 hours ago, VancouveriteinSanDiego2 said: good steady shutdown always need them and good thing about them too is cap hits arnt always crazy high so its a win ! Don't disagree with your post in anyway, shape or form but my perception is young defensive defensemen don't come into the NHL anymore. It seems to me that teams all want offensive skills first now, followed by 2 way skills and they will only use defense only d-men as a last resort. The league seems to be coming into a new cycle where outscoring the opposition is more of a priority as opposed to shutting down the opposition and capitalizing on your opportunities generated. It is like every new young d-man entering the league has to be a very good skater, needs to join the rush and needs to be an elite puck mover.I may be wrong but I really can't think of any young d-men entering the NHL these days that don't meet these qualifications..It seems to me that in today's game a young d-man with Chris Tanev type skills would never get an opportunity to play in this new NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Him being in his third tourney and probably one of the older guys on the team I thought because of this he’d be leaned upon heavier in the TOI. Haven’t watched any Finland games unfortunately. How has he looked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: Don't disagree with your post in anyway, shape or form but my perception is young defensive defensemen don't come into the NHL anymore. It seems to me that teams all want offensive skills first now, followed by 2 way skills and they will only use defense only d-men as a last resort. The league seems to be coming into a new cycle where outscoring the opposition is more of a priority as opposed to shutting down the opposition and capitalizing on your opportunities generated. It is like every new young d-man entering the league has to be a very good skater, needs to join the rush and needs to be an elite puck mover.I may be wrong but I really can't think of any young d-men entering the NHL these days that don't meet these qualifications..It seems to me that in today's game a young d-man with Chris Tanev type skills would never get an opportunity to play in this new NHL. I don't know if that is true or not. I went to NHL stats and looked for all rookie D men from 2018/19 & 2019/20 who had played at least 30 games. 42 names showed up and only 14 out of those 42 D men had 15 or more points. That does not mean that their teams don't expect more out of them. I just found it interesting there were a lot of young D men that had very little points. Maybe a lot of them will turn into point producers or maybe many of them will have low point totals but be pretty good players. There are some good young D on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I wonder if Utenen is worth bringing over to Utica next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 12/27/2019 at 4:48 PM, VancouverHabitant said: They finally posted the boxscore Toni played 16:22 minutes and posted the Loui Eriksson special, zeros across the board Who cares. That's not why he was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 14 hours ago, cuporbust said: Who cares. That's not why he was there. Are you suggesting anything negative about Louie?!? Because I wasn’t! Better not be bad mouthing our defensive specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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