Rush17 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Hi guys, I was curious if anyone knows who of our prospects might be AHL eligible next season? I know Hughes has expressed interest and turning pro either in Vancouver or Utica. Do we know of any other players who "could" and who we think "may"? I am assuming Artyom Manukyan is age eligible but will they bring him over? Good questions to ask. I want to cheer for Utica strong this year. A few more bodies would help for that! World Jr Eligible Players: Hughes (USA) likely candidate if not in nhl/ahl Woo (Canada) maybe? anyone know if he's a consideration? Manukyan (Russia) likely candidate Utunen (Finland) likely, captain of Finnish U18 team Madden (USA) he might be more a long shot? what do you think Thiessen (CAN) likely won't be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Woo (Canada) maybe? anyone know if he's a consideration? Woo is 17 and plays in the CHL, so he cannot play in the AHL yet. It's either the NHL or WHL for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 How Does The NHL-CHL Agreement Regarding Prospects Work? https://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2012/8/1/3213217/bruins-nhl-chl-ahl-agreement-CBA-talks-2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Baggins said: How Does The NHL-CHL Agreement Regarding Prospects Work? https://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2012/8/1/3213217/bruins-nhl-chl-ahl-agreement-CBA-talks-2012 Thanks Baggins. Can someone translate this to our guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salter Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Thanks Baggins. Can someone translate this to our guys? If they play in either the WHL, OHL, or QMJHL(the three collectively fall under the CHL) and are 19 or younger, they cannot play in the AHL. Hughes can play AHL because he’s a 1999 born player who has a year of college under his belt. Any players from Europe can play in the AHL. Players like Madden who are about to go to college can’t becuase of their age, they would have to either go NHL or one of the CHL leagues listed above. Hughes (USA) NHL/AHL/College/CHL Woo (Canada) NHL/WHL Manukyan (Russia) NHL/KHL/AHL Utunen (Finland) NHL/AHL/Liiga Madden (USA) NHL/College/CHL Thiessen (CAN) NHL/College/CHL Anybody feel free to correct me but I believe that’s how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Salter said: If they play in either the WHL, OHL, or QMJHL(the three collectively fall under the CHL) and are 19 or younger, they cannot play in the AHL. Hughes can play AHL because he’s a 1999 born player who has a year of college under his belt. Any players from Europe can play in the AHL. Players like Madden who are about to go to college can’t becuase of their age, they would have to either go NHL or one of the CHL leagues listed above. Hughes (USA) NHL/AHL/College/CHL Woo (Canada) NHL/WHL Manukyan (Russia) NHL/KHL/AHL Utunen (Finland) NHL/AHL/Liiga Madden (USA) NHL/College/CHL Thiessen (CAN) NHL/College/CHL Anybody feel free to correct me but I believe that’s how it goes. Utunen to the AHL!!! LESS GO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Utunen to the AHL!!! LESS GO!!! He has 1 more year on his contract with Tappara. Likely he plays in AHL for 19-20 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Realistically I see: Hughes: NHL / College Woo: WHL Manukyan: KHL / MHL Utunen: Liiga Madden: NCAA Thiessen: NCAA / USHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluralsight Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, NHL'er said: Realistically I see: Hughes: NHL / College Woo: WHL Manukyan: KHL / MHL Utunen: Liiga Madden: NCAA Thiessen: NCAA / USHL I believe Manukyan would be too old for the MHL this coming season as it's a junior (20 and under) league. It's either the KHL, AHL, or even the NHL for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, pluralsight said: I believe Manukyan would be too old for the MHL this coming season as it's a junior (20 and under) league. It's either the KHL, AHL, or even the NHL for him. I read somewhere that Manukyan signed a 2 year contract in the KHL, so probably won't see him here for another couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, pluralsight said: I believe Manukyan would be too old for the MHL this coming season as it's a junior (20 and under) league. It's either the KHL, AHL, or even the NHL for him. Good spot! Definitely looks like KHL thrnthen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, NHL'er said: Realistically I see: Hughes: NHL / College Woo: WHL Manukyan: KHL / MHL Utunen: Liiga Madden: NCAA Thiessen: NCAA / USHL I read somewhere Thiessen will stay in his league then move up to NCAA with Maine where he has committed himself to the year following. No idea if it's true read it on a news site tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danaimo Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: I read somewhere that Manukyan signed a 2 year contract in the KHL, so probably won't see him here for another couple of years. Agreed, I'm sure the Canucks would be happy to let him develop playing professional hockey in Russia but there is no recognition of NHL contracts in KHL and vice versa so theoretically he could jump ship and come over to play in N.America at any time. If the Canucks have no confidence in Manukyan's team in developing the player then they will put pressure on him to bolt from Russia. The NHL do recognise other European league contracts though, so Utunen may have to honour his Finnish contract before coming to N.America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 6 hours ago, danaimo said: Agreed, I'm sure the Canucks would be happy to let him develop playing professional hockey in Russia but there is no recognition of NHL contracts in KHL and vice versa so theoretically he could jump ship and come over to play in N.America at any time. If the Canucks have no confidence in Manukyan's team in developing the player then they will put pressure on him to bolt from Russia. The NHL do recognise other European league contracts though, so Utunen may have to honour his Finnish contract before coming to N.America. I think the Canucks would have to buy out the contract (or the player has to buy out the contract himself, but I'm sure the team will help out in this case) if they want him to break his contract unless he has an out clause or something. I believe this is also the course of action required if we want to bring Tryamkin back, but Tryamkin seems committed to finishing out his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salter Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 9 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Can a player go back to college after they've signed a pro contract? I thought the whole idea of the NCAA is that there was to be no professional sports players playing on their teams? Nope, that's why for Hughes it's either make the leap to pro (NHL/AHL) or continue at college. He can't try it out then go back. Can't play pre-season games either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 9 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Can a player go back to college after they've signed a pro contract? I thought the whole idea of the NCAA is that there was to be no professional sports players playing on their teams? Once you go pro, there is no going back to the NCAA. It’s why Brady hasn’t fully committed to signing his ELC now or after another year. It’s a pretty major decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 minute ago, N7Nucks said: Once you go pro, there is no going back to the NCAA. It’s why Brady hasn’t fully committed to signing his ELC now or after another year. It’s a pretty major decision. Are these top prospects like Hughes and BT choosing the NCAA development route to get their degrees, or to become NHL players? I think these top guys get their pro careers started this summer or next summer. I think they went the NCAA route, because they felt it was best for them to get to the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizardofoz Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, Salter said: Nope, that's why for Hughes it's either make the leap to pro (NHL/AHL) or continue at college. He can't try it out then go back. Can't play pre-season games either. I don't think he can participate in the prospect games or practices either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DrJockitch Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Alflives said: Are these top prospects like Hughes and BT choosing the NCAA development route to get their degrees, or to become NHL players? I think these top guys get their pro careers started this summer or next summer. I think they went the NCAA route, because they felt it was best for them to get to the NHL. May be a little of getting a degree for some but also a very good way to develop with less games and more practice time. Next step for a lot of USNTDP guys as well as they don't screw up their college eligibility for the pittance of a salary the CHL pays. I rip the Canadian junior system a lot, I think for good reason but won't re-hash here other than say would like to see them drop the number of games. Plus being a star in a NCAA program is a pretty good life in many ways. I am 46 and would go back to University in a second if it only payed money, god knows I spent a lot of years there as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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