Kanukfanatic Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: The fact Podkolzin had to mention his NHL intentions speaks volumes about people's stupidity. "I want to stay in Russia until I am NHL ready" "OH MER GAHD HE DOESN'T WANNA BE IN THE NHL Probably another entitled Russian scumbag." He won't be around at 10 anyway. But it sure was funny seeing all the people hate on the Russian for Russian reasons. The Russian Factor is a real thing real GMs do consider. https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/the-russia-factor-nhl-teams-wary-of-prospects-who-could-bolt-for-khl June 1, 2012 TORONTO – There was one question Nail Yakupov couldn’t escape during the NHL’s scouting combine. Mikhail Grigorenko and Andrey Vasilevskiy kept getting it, too. Even Alex Galchenyuk—an American despite his Russian-sounding last name—was unable to get through an interview this week without being asked why he’d rather play pro hockey in North America than the Russian-based KHL. “I told (my parents) that since I was a little kid my dream was to play in the NHL and win a Stanley Cup,” said Galchenyuk, who was born in Milwaukee. “It’s not to play in the KHL and Gagarin Cup. I think I want to be a great player in the NHL and play against the best players. … “I just want to play in the NHL and I see myself in the NHL.” It’s become increasingly difficult for Russian teenagers to convince NHL teams of that fact. Consider that 47 Russians were selected in the 1992 draft alone, yet only 39 have been taken in the past five years combined. The point will come into focus even more this month at the draft in Pittsburgh, where Yakupov is expected to be the No. 1 pick overall and Grigorenko and Vasilevskiy are potential first-round selections along with Galchenyuk. However, even the top-ranked Russian players elicit concern from some NHL teams. It’s a taboo subject for many—general managers and scouts alike are loathe to speak publicly on the topic—but the continued threat posed by the KHL is causing many to think twice before drafting teenagers from Russia. “Part of the problem is you never get them to buy in,” said Phoenix Coyotes GM Don Maloney. “There’s always that little option that when you face some adversity, it’s easier just to say ‘nyet’ and go in the other direction (to the KHL) instead of making it work. You have that out. “I think I can speak to probably every manager in the game saying there’s some hesitation there.” That much was made clear to the current batch of Russian prospects as they were subjected to interviews from as many as 20 teams. Even Yakupov and Grigorenko, who both moved from their homeland to play in the Canadian Hockey League, found themselves repeatedly explaining their future intentions. “All the teams asked me about this, about the KHL,” Grigorenko said. “I understand why they’re concerned about this, but I told them I will not go there for sure.” The 18-year-old managed to display a sense of humour about the topic. He went through interviews on Thursday wearing a polo shirt adorned with a large red Maple Leaf that he picked up at a local mall. “Everyone was laughing,” Grigorenko said. “I came here last year to play in the NHL. It’s my dream, I will wait for the chance. I just want to play in the NHL.” However, there’s no denying the strong allure of the KHL. Both the Washington Capitals (Evgeny Kuznetsov) and St. Louis Blues (Vladimir Tarasenko) have had trouble luring recent first-round picks to North America. Players are able to earn a lot more money in Russia than they’d get on an entry-level deal in the NHL and they don’t have to worry about the possibility of being sent to the American Hockey League, where they make considerably less. The chilling effect it has had on the NHL is undeniable, with only eight Russians selected in the 2011 draft and just 30 players from that country having appeared in a game this season. Edmonton holds the No. 1 pick in the upcoming draft and will have Yakupov visit the city this weekend for a follow-up interview. That organization hasn’t selected a Russian-born player since 2006 and GM Steve Tambellini is anxious to become better acquainted with Yakupov. “You have to get to know the player, you have to get to know the person,” said Tambellini. “You have to find out what really motivates them and why and what their goals are. And then maybe you get a sense of if there should be some hesitation or not.” Yakupov sat down with 18 different teams this week and fielded several questions about his nationality. The consensus No. 1 pick in this draft for the past year, there have been some whispers that it could end up working against Yakupov. If Edmonton were to pass on him, Columbus might do the same with the second pick given the trouble that organization had previously with top-ranked Russians Nikita Filatov and Nikolai Zherdev. However, Yakupov says he’s “not worried” about teams being unsure of him because of his homeland. He hails from Nizhnekamsk in the far east of Russia and insists that he’s his own man. “Every player has his way, you know?” said Yakupov. “I’m Muslim, I’m not Russian. If you say what happens with the Russian factor, it’s his life. I have my life. I’ve got to work. “It doesn’t matter what team’s going to (take me) in the draft. … For me, it will be my team, my first favourite team in the NHL. I want to play and do everything for them.” I guess actual people paid to make NHL decisions disagree with your opinion that you don't have to worry or think about whether a Russian prospect will actually play in the NHL or bolt if it is challenging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Ducks could be interested in drafting York at #9. Ducks need a Dman, York’s from Anaheim plus Scott Niedermayer was coaching him. if that happens it opens up another top player at the #10 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Growth spurt has begun. Confirmed late bloomer. Will be 6'3 in 4 years. Book it. How tall are his parents? Edited June 1, 2019 by theo5789 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 hours ago, aGENT said: Nashville want a top 6 forward, not futures in return for Subban. They're 'win now'. Moving Subban's contract allows them to test UFA. I'm sure Nashville will not have trouble attracting FAs city-wise and competitively. They already have reinforcements to replace Subban. It doesn't have to be directly a deal involving Subban that fills their need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 hours ago, smithers joe said: the hockey news draft book compares him to marc edouard vlasic. that is his best case scenario. Nearly a 1000 games career at the age of 32 while relied upon being one of the top defensive dmen balancing offensive guys. I'll take it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Growth spurt has begun. Confirmed late bloomer. Will be 6'3 in 4 years. Book it. How tall are his parents? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Moving Subban's contract allows them to test UFA. I'm sure Nashville will not have trouble attracting FAs city-wise and competitively. They already have reinforcements to replace Subban. It doesn't have to be directly a deal involving Subban that fills their need. Subban is a difference maker and makes their team better. They are not going to trade him just to create cap space. They would want an equally impactful player in return that can contribute now. They have other players they can move to create cap space - Bonino, Granlund. Poile says there have been articles written about them trading Subban ever since they acquired him. It's really not a given that he gets traded. Edited June 1, 2019 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, mll said: Subban is a difference maker and makes their team better. They are not going to trade him just to create cap space. They would want an equally impactful player in return that can contribute now. They have other players they can move to create cap space - Bonino, Granlund. Poile says there have been articles written about them trading Subban ever since they acquired him. It's really not a given that he gets traded. Trading Subban without receiving much cap back allows them to slot Duchene in at 8-9 million, which is likely the main goal unless they target a center in a trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flickyoursedin Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Freaky athletic with the stats and potential to match. This guy is going in the first round for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 https://thehockeywriters.com/2019-nhl-combine-heights-weights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I would think Flames wound be interested in taking Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, HockeyHarry said: I would think Flames wound be interested in taking Knight. I can imagine him going in the 10-20 range. He's a beast for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Freaky athletic with the stats and potential to match. This guy is going in the first round for sure. Saw a video of (I think?) Matt Murray standing under a basketball hoop, jumping straight up, and dunking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 damn kid is a fitness junkie i guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, WHL rocks said: In St. Louis there is debate over who is better Parayko or Pieterangelo. In the SCF Parayko is getting most ice time on the Blues. He plays against opposing teams top line. He played 27+ mins last game.. 26+ in game 1 most time on ice most PP time on ice most short handed time on ice Which 2 Dmen would you play over him on the Canucks top pair. Tanev Hutton Stecher ? I dont think so.. If any player in this draft has a worst case scenario of becoming a Parayko like you said then i would take him 1st overall. At the same age who would you pick? Peiterangelo or Parayko? I never said Parayko wouldn’t be a top paring on the canucks. But our weak defense should not be a benchmark. And a Colton Parayko level player would go before Kakko, Hughes, and even Byram? Really hard to take your comment seriously after that. Smh Edited June 2, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, 18W-40C-6W said: At the same age who would you pick? Peiterangelo or Parayko? I never said Parayko wouldn’t be a top paring on the canucks. But our weak defense should not be a benchmark. And a Colton Parayko level player would go before Kakko, Hughes, and even Byram? Really hard to take your comment seriously after that. Smh Did you even read my post.. I shouldn't even waist my time. You are completely misrepresenting my post. Ive read youre posts. You are new here and start calling ppl trolls when they disagree. Now you are being untruthful in our conversation. You are the one claiming Seider worst case scenario is he turns into Parayko. I'm asking if that's worst case then what's his mid point. Ofcourse he'd be 1st overall pick. You're talking Dahlin with 6'6 230 lbs body at mid point range if Parayko is the worst he could be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Damn it. 2 nothing. Frack..not good . Not good at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Did you even read my post.. I shouldn't even waist my time. You are completely misrepresenting my post. Ive read youre posts. You are new here and start calling ppl trolls when they disagree. Now you are being untruthful in our conversation. You are the one claiming Seider worst case scenario is he turns into Parayko. I'm asking if that's worst case then what's his mid point. Ofcourse he'd be 1st overall pick. You're talking Dahlin with 6'6 230 lbs body at mid point range if Parayko is the worst he could be... Try using correct data as well - love how people make up stats to support their argument hoping people won’t actually check them Pieterangelo ice time > Parayko Ice time ”untruthful in our conversation”? Oh the irony https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/st-louis-blues-team-stats?season=2018&category=ICE+TIME&time=0 your entire response is a ad hominem attack - well done Edited June 2, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) On 6/1/2019 at 6:01 PM, 18W-40C-6W said: Try using correct data as well - love how people make up stats to support their argument hoping people won’t actually check them Pieterangelo ice time > Parayko Ice time ”untruthful in our conversation”? Oh the irony https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/st-louis-blues-team-stats?season=2018&category=ICE+TIME&time=0 your entire response is a ad hominem attack - well done Why are you posting link to regular season stats? When I clearly said "In the SCF Parayko is getting most ice time on the Blues." Edited June 4, 2019 by WHL rocks Personal attacks removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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