hateleafs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: This is how I feel about the Swede Dman. Soderstrom is good, but could likely leave you wanting a lil more. Broberg can be an absolute gamer, but lacks processing ability, which will frustrate you. Broberg at 10 is a gamble imo. Hope they take who ever Falls to 10 In top 10. Newhook I’m happy with as well. canucks recently released a scouts ranking players video they talked about a Bus driver and if he’s not driving we’re not going anywhere lol. Newhook I think they were talking about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, hateleafs said: I like Hockeyprospect.com Compared to canucks management draft rankings pretty close last 3 drafts. They had Juolevi ranked 6. We took him at 5 Pettersson at 5 we took him at 5 Hughes at 9 we took him 7 th Also 2015 They had Boeser at 18 we took him 23. virtanen at 18 we took him 6 This year they have zegras 10 Seider 11 soderstrom 12 York 13 and Newhook at 16 I want Zegras or Caufield at 10 if one of them is available. Their national team coach was raving about them today on the radio. I liked both players before I heard the interview, but now I’m sold. Zegras reminds of Barzal. Caufield reminds me of Debrincat. I know they aren’t physical guys but we need way more skill injections into this line up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Could very well be Newhook. It will be interesting to see the reaction at Rogers when Benning goes to the mic and announces Newhook, with Boldy still on the table lol I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks. I could very well be wrong, but out of the USA national team guys I like Boldy the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, messier's_elbow said: I could very well be wrong, but out of the USA national team guys I like Boldy the least. I tend to agree. He does have size, good hands and hockey IQ, but I don't think he's as skilled (and maybe not as fast) as Hughes, Turcotte, Zegras, Caufield or York. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hateleafs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: This is how I feel about the Swede Dman. Soderstrom is good, but could likely leave you wanting a lil more. Broberg can be an absolute gamer, but lacks processing ability, which will frustrate you. Btw I have high hopes for Olli Juolevi this coming season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Fred65 said: Count your lucky stars if Zegras is there at #10 This would be as good as Quinn falling to #7. If we get Zegras I would be “over the moon”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, hateleafs said: Broberg at 10 is a gamble imo. Hope they take who ever Falls to 10 In top 10. Newhook I’m happy with as well. canucks recently released a scouts ranking players video they talked about a Bus driver and if he’s not driving we’re not going anywhere lol. Newhook I think they were talking about. That was Scott Walker saying that.. and he's already working for the Canucks as director of player development. Wonder if that was a conversation about someone already in the system in Utica rather than a prospect. "When he's going we're going..when he's not we're not going" .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I would be ecstatic if we got Alex Newhook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hateleafs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, WHL rocks said: That was Scott Walker saying that.. and he's already working for the Canucks as director of player development. Wonder if that was a conversation about someone already in the system in Utica rather than a prospect. "When he's going we're going..when he's not we're not going" .... Interesting. Did not know that was him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 NEWHOOK Cam Robinson - Dobber ProspectsMay 15th: "Speed for days and the disregard for safety to use it anywhere. Dangerous hands, good hockey sense and is equally deadly with the pass or the shot. Already a strong defensive player and effective penalty-killer." Effective penalty killer too? Even after producing 102 points in 53 games, and over a point-a-game at the U18? I'm actually not sure Newhook is my first choice, but I guess it would depend if Dach Cozens, Zegras and Krebs are taken. I also like York and Seider, but not sure I would want to pass up on Newhook to take the D. Benning has a tough choice to make. Maybe it comes down to - who has the best character? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 With such a deep draft we should be able to get a good defensive prospect with our second and third picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: NEWHOOK Cam Robinson - Dobber ProspectsMay 15th: "Speed for days and the disregard for safety to use it anywhere. Dangerous hands, good hockey sense and is equally deadly with the pass or the shot. Already a strong defensive player and effective penalty-killer." Effective penalty killer too? Even after producing 102 points in 53 games, and over a point-a-game at the U18? I'm actually not sure Newhook is my first choice, but I guess it would depend if Dach Cozens, Zegras and Krebs are taken. I also like York and Seider, but not sure I would want to pass up on Newhook to take the D. Benning has a tough choice to make. Maybe it comes down to - who has the best character? He's definitelty a high character guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGokou Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 11 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Caufield is very confident in himself, and even feels he's one of the fastest skaters for his size. I have a feeling he's going to do just fine one day during the NHL regular season, I can see him putting up 30-40 goals. Playoffs is a different beast though, and this is where he might disappear. Podkolzin is so good, fast and gritty. If the interviews with him go well and he's still around at #10, I hope Benning takes a chance on him. I have no problem selecting Caufield with the 10th overall pick. I believe people just want to assign a label to him as to why he can't do something. I could say that about a number of other players. Broberg will never be a good player, he has low IQ. Podkolzin is Russian. Zegras played behind Hughes and didn't get good matchups...grossly overated etc. (BTW, I was being sarcastic about all of these). I have no doubts Caufield will be an elite goal scorer in this league. I think 30 is his floor...playoffs...ok different animal completely but the way he jumps into plays with a quick give and go has me feeling he will be just fine. He's not really the type of player to carry a puck and dance around a defender. He sneaks into those spots so interference won't be a problem for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGokou Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said: Im coming around more on Broberg. Partially because I think Benning likes him & will take him if hes available. So part of it is bracing for 'disappointment', I suppose. But at the same time I think hes a good top 4 D prospect. I dont see a ton of risk b/c his defensive game is really strong, but I also dont see a massive ceiling b/c his offensive game is limited. His tools are great, which makes him so intriguing. Maybe he could be a Bouwmeester/Klefbom type #2/3D is kinda my thought. I'm not sure I agree with this statement from what I've heard about him. Gap control is not that good, offensive ability is limited. His skating speed is tantalizing but you can do the same with a forward like Alex Newhook. We already have one speedy rover on the backend, I'm not sure if pairing him up with a Broberg would be that sound defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, TGokou said: I'm not sure I agree with this statement from what I've heard about him. Gap control is not that good, offensive ability is limited. His skating speed is tantalizing but you can do the same with a forward like Alex Newhook. We already have one speedy rover on the backend, I'm not sure if pairing him up with a Broberg would be that sound defensively. I'm just going off what I've watched. I read some concerns but when I watched him he was a good defender, especially good one on one. Good in his own zone & can move the puck up. I guess I heard low IQ comments & was expecting to see that but he's actual a pretty smart player in the defensive zone. He rushes the puck, but I wouldn't call him a rover like Hughes. Broberg's strength is skating & defending. Offensive ability is limited as far as projecting him to be an elite player. But he's not worse than average. He's got a decent shot & the wheels to get up in the play. He's just not very creative & it shows especially in his rushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: I'm just going off what I've watched. I read some concerns but when I watched him he was a good defender, especially good one on one. Good in his own zone & can move the puck up. I guess I heard low IQ comments & was expecting to see that but he's actual a pretty smart player in the defensive zone. He rushes the puck, but I wouldn't call him a rover like Hughes. Broberg's strength is skating & defending. Offensive ability is limited as far as projecting him to be an elite player. But he's not worse than average. He's got a decent shot & the wheels to get up in the play. He's just not very creative & it shows especially in his rushes. Tanev 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, BPA said: Tanev 2.0? I'd say Broberg is better/more involved offensively from what I've seen. I can see him scoring 30 points, maybe 40+, but don't see him in that 50-60+ range basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TGokou Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 Just watched a bunch of games of Seider at the WC. Here is my take-away points in point form Good: -Excellent gap-control and defensive positioning. Very good IQ in this regard - Good speed skating backwards and never let the forward get around him. - Has a bit of snarl and isn't afraid to cross-check players after the whistle, even against men - Seems to pick and choose his spots wisely as to when to rub his man out along the boards - Shows confidence on offence and while he rarely jumps into the play he is looking to get the puck back on a give and go - Has a heavy shot, I noticed an opposing player go down hard after blocking a half slap-shot Bad - His passes are not always tape-to-tape but overall I only noticed this a few times - Doesn't have blazing fast speed and didn't really notice him make any zone-entries on his own for the most part - A little passive on the offensive blue-line, would like to see him move around a bit more and try to find open ice for a pass - Needs to work on his ability to walk the line, didn't notice it enough All in all he was extremely solid defensively playing against men at the WC. I didn't really see much offensive drives/production from him, partially because he wasn't involved on the PP and because I didn't feel he moved his feet enough to make himself open for the pass. Once in a while he would make a rush with the forwards and that's when he looked dangerous offensively but once they are in the zone I didn't notice too many rushes down low. This could just be coaching and he doesn't want to make those moves and get caught. Anyways, this is pretty much a recap of what we already know about Seider but at least I can say these are my own opinions on him as a whole. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: I'm just going off what I've watched. I read some concerns but when I watched him he was a good defender, especially good one on one. Good in his own zone & can move the puck up. I guess I heard low IQ comments & was expecting to see that but he's actual a pretty smart player in the defensive zone. He rushes the puck, but I wouldn't call him a rover like Hughes. Broberg's strength is skating & defending. Offensive ability is limited as far as projecting him to be an elite player. But he's not worse than average. He's got a decent shot & the wheels to get up in the play. He's just not very creative & it shows especially in his rushes. = Edler with more speed? An elite athlete... How is his shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 That new guy on the boards. Argues with everyone but knows a thing or two about hockey. So he was comparing Seider to floor Parayko. So I started reading and watching everything I can on Seider. I like this kid. I think we need a kid like Seider on this team sooner or later. Since he's a Dman I think better early. Get him developing. I figure Canucks trade down. They take Seider or Newhook who ever is available at 15 to 20. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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