HockeyHarry Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, appleboy said: Teams don't look at Buttons list and change their mind. Their list are probably set to go. Of course NHL GMs don’t look at Buttons list. My point was that real nhl pro hockey minds really really have a different take on the rankings then all the ranking websites and each Nhl GM list will be completely different. Basically anything can happen outside of top 2. Buttons list IMO is a reflection of how diverse and unpredictable this draft will be. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 12:39 PM, Camel Toe Drag said: Apparently him and jack easily get confused when they’re on the ice. Zegras is more of a perimeter player than Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovy Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 15 hours ago, Alflives said: I like your list. I think the draft might fall pretty close to what you suggest. I am willing to bet it does not turn out this way Alf. Name your wager. Ditto My list 1. Kakko 2. Hughes 3. Byram 4. Dach 5. Turcotte 6. Cozens 7. Zegras 8. Boldy 9. Krebs 10. Newhook 11. Podkolzin 12. Boldy 13. Caulfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted June 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, groovy said: I am willing to bet it does not turn out this way Alf. Name your wager. Ditto My list 1. Kakko 2. Hughes 3. Byram 4. Dach 5. Turcotte 6. Cozens 7. Zegras 8. Boldy 9. Krebs 10. Newhook 11. Podkolzin 12. Boldy 13. Caulfield Twins? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post R3aL Posted June 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: Can someone enlighten me as to the rise of Seider? whats he done to overtake some of those guys on the list? not being critical of him just not sure whats with the rocket up the standings. Well he was underscouted majority of year by mainstream experts / media. as games in Germany are harder to cover of course. But: - Went from young offensively minded d prospect to playing in men’s league and showing as a defence first guy playing his role in the system - won rookie of the year - has physical tools - scouted more as year went on, 80 scouts at his final game - showed very well at Men’s WC, showed what he’s all about - had a strong combine, great personality, English is perfect and he left a strong impression with everyone he met. ive warmed up to the idea of him being the second best dman in the draft. Even though I’ve only seen highlights and his internationally covered play. My dmen ranking: byram seider york harley broberg soderstrom heinola 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, R3aL said: Well he was underscouted majority of year by mainstream experts / media. as games in Germany are harder to cover of course. But: - Went from young offensively minded d prospect to playing in men’s league and showing as a defence first guy playing his role in the system - won rookie of the year - has physical tools - scouted more as year went on, 80 scouts at his final game - showed very well at Men’s WC, showed what he’s all about - had a strong combine, great personality, English is perfect and he left a strong impression with everyone he met. ive warmed up to the idea of him being the second best dman in the draft. Even though I’ve only seen highlights and his internationally covered play. My dmen ranking: byram seider york harley broberg soderstrom heinola thanks, now everyones got me interested. I need to go find some video's. The kids built like Ohlund so if he can develop some offence to his game this could be an exciting pick. I also like that we don't have to deal with the CHL/AHL age limit bs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kenhodgejr Posted June 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2019 Ya Seider is a guy who impressed big in the interviews at the combine. Thats always a good thing. I think he would be a good personality in our locker room. Big young skilled right shot defence man with top 4 upside are almost impossible to trade for. Using our first 2 picks on RD at this years draft would be ok with me. 10 - Seider 40 - Korczak Defence LD RD Edler Tanev Hughes Stetcher Hutton Schenn Juolevi Rafferty Teves Biega Sautner Chatfield Brisebois Seider Rathbone Woo Korczak Most defence prospects will take a few years of development before they are NHL ready. The sooner we load up our system in defence depth the better. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Zegras is more of a perimeter player than Hughes. Doesn’t matter both of them are gunna start out being perimeter players when they get to the NHL. Especially Jack. He’s gotta get a lot stronger if he wants to continue to play the way he plays. Based on skill and ability to make plays I like Zegras a lot. The Canucks need more play and space makers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe Silvia Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1.Hughes 2. Kakko 3. Turcotte 4. Cozens 5. Byram 6. Dach 7. Zegras 8. Broberg 9. Boldy 10. Newhook Heard Chicago is looking for a centre, Colorado desperately needs scoring. LA sprints to the stage to select Byram, Oilers have been linked to Broberg. That's what I think could happen but it's anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinyoureyesontheprize Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 hours ago, appleboy said: Teams don't look at Buttons list and change their mind. Their list are probably set to go. As much as I agree with that statement, the reality is that each teams rankings are probably vastly different from one another. That’s how wild this first round is going to be. I can’t imagine teams had an easy time ranking this years talent and they’ve may still be going back and forth to finalize their rankings. The Canucks should have as many as 8 players ranked in some order from 3-10. That’s not going to be easy. Ranking Zegras, Turcotte, Krebs, Boldy, poldkozin, Cozens, Dach, Byram is not an easy task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, groovy said: I am willing to bet it does not turn out this way Alf. Name your wager. Ditto My list 1. Kakko 2. Hughes 3. Byram 4. Dach 5. Turcotte 6. Cozens 7. Zegras 8. Boldy 9. Krebs 10. Newhook 11. Podkolzin 12. Boldy 13. Caulfield Did you just straight up copy my list mistake and all? Gotta change it up a bit before you hand copied homework to the teacher bruh. That's day one stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, stawns said: Rather have euro or American as you can get them into your system earlier If they are good enough they step right in from junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 hours ago, D-Money said: Outside of Byram, the D in this draft are a crap-shoot. From the sounds of things, Benning is making his main goal to fix the defense in the here-and-now, which will likely mean long-term contracts to a couple of guys. So I think it's more likely that he goes with a forward. Less risk, more likely to be NHL-ready sooner, and with the struggles of some of our forward prospects, possibly more of an organizational need. In my humble opinion, good Defenseman are more expensive to find on the open market than forwards. Especially RHD. This being the case, I believe if there is a potential long term fit at RHD available at our pick, you take him. I’m not dismissing what Benning has said about his goals for the off season. I just don’t believe that we can’t patch up the Defense on the short term while also eying the long term success of the team. In my opinion, teams with long term success are built from the net out. Since we already have our future in net squared away (IMO), that leaves Defence. Hughes and Seider would sure be nice pairing together on our blue line for years to come. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: In my humble opinion, good Defenseman are more expensive to find on the open market than forwards. Especially RHD. This being the case, I believe if there is a potential long term fit at RHD available at our pick, you take him. I’m not dismissing what Benning has said about his goals for the off season. I just don’t believe that we can’t patch up the Defense on the short term while also eying the long term success of the team. In my opinion, teams with long term success are built from the net out. Since we already have our future in net squared away (IMO), that leaves Defence. Hughes and Seider would sure be nice pairing together on our blue line for years to come. Yeah, you could be right. The thing with Seider (and Soderstrom, for that matter), is that they already have been playing against men, and doing well. There is a chance that they could be helping the team as soon as any forward, possibly even next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, D-Money said: Yeah, you could be right. The thing with Seider (and Soderstrom, for that matter), is that they already have been playing against men, and doing well. There is a chance that they could be helping the team as soon as any forward, possibly even next season. Seider and Broberg a big boys. Soderstrom, although also playing against men, is small. There is an uncertainty how he will adjust to the faster, and heavier game on our ice, especially in the NHL. Soderstrom reminds me a lot Liljegren and Phillip Larssen. Guys look great on the big ice, in much inferior leagues, but can't do much in the NHL. If these smallish D men aren't putting up points, likely they are hurting their team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 So many of you are praising Seider, but honestly, you simply can't be selecting him at 10th OA. There's just way too much talent in the top part of the 1st round to gamble that Seider will be more than just a good 2-way defenceman. If Seider is the guy, GMJB should trade down to around #15 OA or lower. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, appleboy said: If they are good enough they step right in from junior. Not at #10 usually. I'm not against players from the CHL, but all things being equal between a CHL player and one from Europe of US, I'd always go with Euro or US. We saw, with Jake, the decisions that lack of control can lead to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Fanuck said: 1. Huge, physical & mobile - rare combination for a defender. 2. Both offensively and defensively aware - rare combination for a defender. 3. Right handed - less common these days for defenders. 4. Played a season vs. men - may have sped up development 5. Showed very well vs world-class competition recently 6. Strong in areas typically difficult to coach and weaker in easily coachable areas I like this summary. Many guys get high on a player. And suddenly they have ''lightning'' speed. This characterisation is fair, great mobility. He's also a safe & smart pick, because he has displayed both intelligence in his game, and that he can do it at a pro level. The counter (player) is Broberg. Who has yet to display that maturity in his game. Beats players at his age bracket (see World U18's). But does have that ''it'' factor of elite skating. Speed to rush the puck & pull away from opposition. Which he has displayed. Do you try and sneak in some extra upside with Broberg? (Along with some risk...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 minute ago, stawns said: Not at #10 usually. I'm not against players from the CHL, but all things being equal between a CHL player and one from Europe of US, I'd always go with Euro or US. We saw, with Jake, the decisions that lack of control can lead to. Always? Boldy and Dach both have size. Can trade pucks, in tight as well as open ice. Good puck skills! Which Jake never displayed. Dach has that size, even more of it, and speed. I take Dach. And it has nothing to do with US, Uzhbekistan, Iran, Japan... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Always? Boldy and Dach both have size. Can trade pucks, in tight as well as open ice. Good puck skills! Which Jake never displayed. Dach has that size, even more of it, and speed. I take Dach. And it has nothing to do with US, Uzhbekistan, Iran, Japan... Always? If two players are equals in almost every way........I take the non CHL player every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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