Nucker 67 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said: Calling it now if we draft Byram, Juolevi gets moved for a 1st in the same draft. Lots of RHD in the mid 1st area. Whoa, wouldn't that be interesting! Maybe?: Hughes - Woo Byram - Soderstrom/Seider although, it could be years before they're all ready Edited March 4, 2019 by NUCKER67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said: Calling it now if we draft Byram, Juolevi gets moved for a 1st in the same draft. Lots of RHD in the mid 1st area. Why give up on Juolevi now? Seems like the worst possible timing considering his injury and what it does to his current trade value. The kid was doing more than ok in the AHL before it got cut short because of surgery. He might take a little longer but he's a lock to be an NHLer and it's likely he will be a top 4. Back on topic, a lot of guys I like this year so I keep changing my really amateur top 10 Hughes Kakko Podkolzin Cozens Byram Boldy Turcotte Dach Krebs Broberg HM: Zegras, Harley, Kaliyev Edited March 4, 2019 by DeltaSwede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I think Byram is high on Benning's list. Not sure what other teams in the top 5 will need a Dman that early. I do like the idea of drafting Byram, and then trading Juoelvi for another 1st. Not sure Benning takes Ds with the first two picks again though. I'd like to see: Byram Brink Sign Ferland as UFA Ferland - Pettersson - Boeser Goldobin - Horvat - Brink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, YungWee said: I think you have to factor having both Hughes brothers on the same team. If we can get Jack, I'd say its much more likely Quinn (and Jack) stay here after RFA. If jack goes somewhere else, Quinn may want to join him....or Jack would want to join us. Interesting to think about. Can't leave as RFA Minimum 7 years in NHL or 27 yrs old until UFA and that's the earliest player could leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: Why give up on Juolevi now? Seems like the worst possible timing considering his injury and what it does to his current trade value. The kid was doing more than ok in the AHL before it got cut short because of surgery. He might take a little longer but he's a lock to be an NHLer and it's likely he will be a top 4. Back on topic, a lot of guys I like this year so I keep changing my really amateur top 10 Hughes Kakko Podkolzin Cozens Byram Boldy Turcotte Dach Krebs Broberg HM: Zegras, Harley, Kaliyev Not giving up, selling from a position of strength for a position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItalianCanuck1 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said: Not giving up, selling from a position of strength for a position of need. Do you think teams would give up a first rounder for a prospect who in a 2016 redraft would be pick maybe around 15/20? So basically you trade your pick for a player with same value but two year older.. (I’m genuin curious, don’t want to sound polemic ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ItalianCanuck1 said: Do you think teams would give up a first rounder for a prospect who in a 2016 redraft would be pick maybe around 15/20? So basically you trade your pick for a player with same value but two year older.. (I’m genuin curious, don’t want to sound polemic ) Not saying they would but for a team like Edmonton more prospects do nothing to help a team that should be gunning for the playoffs. It's not like Juolevi has zero value either, he was having a decent season in the AHL until his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItalianCanuck1 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Mathew Barzal said: Not saying they would but for a team like Edmonton more prospects do nothing to help a team that should be gunning for the playoffs. It's not like Juolevi has zero value either, he was having a decent season in the AHL until his injury. I see your point. I think that OJ is still a prospect, maybe more ready to step up than the future #15 pick of the 2019 draft, but I put him in the same category. So I don’t see a team make a move like this, UNLESS Juolevi is part of a more extended package . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, vannuck59 said: Stop drafting Smerfs . I would be happy with one of Cozen's, Bryam , Dach. Also I would look at trading Virtanen + Plus for another pick in the top 10 Virtanen is not getting back a top ten pick in return....sorry. No chance in hell at this point. Teams don't pay a top 10 pick for a 3rd line winger. And I love Jake. I hope he can keep developing into a power forward. But if he is gonna do it he only has a couple years left imo. Edit: the plus you would have to give up to get that top ten pick would have to be VERY significant. And the Canucks, imo, still don't have the kinda depth they would need to do that kind of move. Edited March 5, 2019 by Kanukfanatic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 The time to aqcuire extra first round picks for the 2019 draft has passed. All our guys were injured and Edler wouldn’t waive. Can’t see teams trading picks when they can just sign comparable guys in free agency without losing an important piece to do so. The guys that we have that could command 1rst round picks are the younger guys we should be keeping. Next trade deadline if we want more picks cross your fingers Benning can move out the vets and replaceable bottom 6 guys. However those deals seem very hard for him to find unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Win the lottery for 3rd overall. Draft Byram. Move Tanev (50% retained) to Vegas for Clarkson + 1st 2019 + something else. Draft Soderstrom. Juolevi - Hughes Byram - Soderstrom Tryamkin - Woo Hutton - Stetcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Win the lottery for 3rd overall. Draft Byram. Move Tanev (50% retained) to Vegas for Clarkson + 1st 2019 + something else. Draft Soderstrom. Juolevi - Hughes Byram - Soderstrom Tryamkin - Woo Hutton - Stetcher We could probably get Bryam picking 6th or 7th. He's good but there are better forwards in this years draft for the top 5. Still I would be thrilled if we walked away with Bryam. Korczak, and Hugo Has in the first 3 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 If we could walk away with Byram, Thomson or Brink. I would be a very happy man. That would open us up to big trade possibilities. Mind you if we got Byram in the first, I would go hard after a winger this offseason. Panarin, Skinner, Lee, Ferland. If we strike out or contract demands are too high, probably time to look for trade options at that point. Since I think Byram can play next year our D could look a whole lot different next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 8 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: We could probably get Bryam picking 6th or 7th. He's good but there are better forwards in this years draft for the top 5. Still I would be thrilled if we walked away with Bryam. Korczak, and Hugo Has in the first 3 rounds There is a chance he is there at 6, but it is seeming less likely each day he is on fire in the WHL and looks like a legit number #1 D right now. He has 24 goals of which 5 are overtime game winners and is over a point per game in the W. I believe if he are in the three spot we should take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, Mathew Barzal said: Not saying they would but for a team like Edmonton more prospects do nothing to help a team that should be gunning for the playoffs. It's not like Juolevi has zero value either, he was having a decent season in the AHL until his injury. You're right that Juolevi doesn't have zero value but his value right now is possibly the lowest it's ever been considering the extent of his injury. There are a lot of question marks regarding the future of his career. It would be wiser to let him heal up, come back to Utica next season, give him a showing in the NHL, and let his value recoup. Asset management and all that. What if he's fantastic? Well that's great, we are either keeping him or we are trading him for an equally impressive player in a position of need. What I mean by giving up on him, is that you are saying we should move him out for quite a lacklustre return when we have time on our side to see if he can become the player he was drafted to become or if he can at least bounce back and increase his trade value if that's the direction they decide to go in. He is 20 years old, we forget about that. Had 13 points in 18 AHL games before his season ended. There is plenty of upside there but we need to be patient. The Oilers and Puljujarvi is a similar situation but very different at the same time. Both players have lower trade value today than they were when they got drafted. Canucks have time on their hands when it comes to Juolevi while the Oilers may have a player and agent asking to get the hell out. Edited March 5, 2019 by DeltaSwede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seannnp Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I think we end up picking 3rd with some lotto luck. GMJB then trades our 3rd OA plus Baertschi for the 6th OA and an additional 1st in the 15-20 range (Anaheim most likely or maybe LA). I just don't see Byram going in the top 5 given the need of some of the basement dwelling teams and forward talent. We select Byram 6th, Kalieyev, Lavoie, Leason with our additional 1st. I'm leaning towards Kaliyev. Sign Karlsson to 7years/11.5million Depending on Fabbro and his willingness to sign with Nashville, we could send a 2nd rounder with prospect like Gadjovich or Rathbone for him. In a few years: Goldobin Petterson Kaliyev Madden Horvat Boeser Virtanen Gaudette Lind Roussell Beagle Motte Karlsson Byram Juolevi Hughes Woo Hutton/Stetcher Demko Dipietro Move out: Sutter, Tanev, Schaller, Granlund, Leivo, Pearson, Eriksson, and the eventual retirement of Edler for more picks and prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) Currently I think the tiers could kinda look like: Hughes Kakko ___________ Byram Dach Cozens Podkolzin Turcotte ___________ Boldy Krebs Broberg Zegras Soderstrom Any of these guys i would be pretty with. Edited March 6, 2019 by Bure_Pavel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: Currently I think the tiers could kinda look like: Hughes Kakko ___________ Byram Dach Cozens Podkolzin Turcotte ___________ Boldy Krebs Broberg Zegras Any of these guys i would be pretty with. Probably can move boldy up to the second tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Alot of scouts have raving about his game, plus he is also producing with $&!# players. Him and turcotte have not gotten the easy zone starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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