Alflives Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Googlie said: These might not.be the final figures though (and certainly not for BB) QO's just ensure that we retain their rights Agents and clubs can negotiate anything higher, but if mgt digs in their heels, player can go to arbitration. If they do so, however, they can't entertain an offer sheet from any other club Besser is clearly going to get paid. Those other guy are all one or two year contract players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Utica needs to find top 6 roles for Lind and Gadjovich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I would've like to have seen a 1 year deal for Granlund and then have him sent down to Utica. He would be a good center on the team and address their biggest weakness. Spooner likely as well would give us two center who we could call up in an emergency without rushing someone like MacEwan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I would've like to have seen a 1 year deal for Granlund and then have him sent down to Utica. He would be a good center on the team and address their biggest weakness. Spooner likely as well would give us two center who we could call up in an emergency without rushing someone like MacEwan. I think we buyout Spooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 12:34 PM, Alflives said: I think we buyout Spooner. He's probably one of the best buyout candidates on our roster although I'm hoping that we get Spooner down to Utica so that we have a deeper AHL club next year. Adam Gaudette is NHL calibre but would be better served to start in Utica until an injury. I want to see him start racking up points again so that he can work on his offensive confidence. Tim Schaller would be a good addition for Utica as well as he can play center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: He's probably one of the best buyout candidates on our roster although I'm hoping that we get Spooner down to Utica so that we have a deeper AHL club next year. Adam Gaudette is NHL calibre but would be better served to start in Utica until an injury. I want to see him start racking up points again so that he can work on his offensive confidence. Tim Schaller would be a good addition for Utica as well as he can play center. Utica might have the highest paid players in the whole AHL. Might even add Errikson to that list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: He's probably one of the best buyout candidates on our roster although I'm hoping that we get Spooner down to Utica so that we have a deeper AHL club next year. Adam Gaudette is NHL calibre but would be better served to start in Utica until an injury. I want to see him start racking up points again so that he can work on his offensive confidence. Tim Schaller would be a good addition for Utica as well as he can play center. I agree on Spooner. Buying him out would not be the best move as it just means management is clearing cap to use it for something else (Myers). Keep him for just this year and waive him. If he get' claimed, great the contract is off our hands. If he doesn't, then great Utica has an offensive center they could use and the Canucks have a call up option. I actually would've liked to have seen Granlund re-signed and then waived for Utica as well. Same situation. Doesn't make a big difference and it's less salary we bury. If we send down Spooner AND Gaudette, that likely means that Sutter is still on the team. I think that should change as early as this summer and be resolved at the trade deadline at the latest, especially now that we have 3 retention slots. A deal revolving around Sutter with retention to Edmonton for Manning and another asset makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) Interesting development, there are now six AHL teams in California (San Jose, Stockton, Bakersfield, Ontario, San Diego) and one in Arizona (Tucson). Wonder if the Canucks would look into putting a team in the area -- same time zone and much easier flight access. Plus the Aquilinis have long had business interests in California. Some options: Fresno, CA -- the largest city in the Central Valley, over 500,000 people in the city and nearly 1 million in the metro area. It's located in between the northern and southern California teams for easy travel and only a 1 hour 40 minutes drive from Bakersfield. The Selland Arena seats 7,600, which is perfect for AHL hockey. The city is home to California State University, Fresno (over 24,000 students who might be interested in affordable hockey), and has a history with ECHL/ junior hockey. Bakersfield is a smaller city and makes it work, and it probably wouldn't cost too much to lease Selland Arena. Sacramento, CA -- the Golden 1 Center would be a premium facility, though the team would have to share with the Sacramento Kings. Only two hours from Vancouver via direct flight, and only a 50 minute drive from Stockton and 2 hours from San Jose. The AHL played its outdoor game there in 2015 and drew over 9,300 fans. There are also two major universities in Sacramento -- Cal State Sacramento and UC Davis -- which combine for over 70,000 students. It's the fastest growing city in California and has over 2 million people in the metro area. Reno, NV -- hockey has done well in Nevada and there's interest from both the city and local businesses to bring pro hockey to Reno. In 2016, the city council approved a 10 year agreement with the Reno Puck Club to get a professional minor league team, but financing became a major hurdle. The Reno Puck Club projected $5.6 million to renovate the Reno Events Center, which would seat 5,100. There were no guaranteed tenants or naming sponsors then, so the project fell through. But the Canucks could easily go in and revive the plans -- $5.6 million is less than one year of Loui Eriksson. Reno is a smaller city -- about 250,000 people in the city and over 450,000 people in the metro area -- but AHL hockey would be the main event and University of Nevada, Reno, has nearly 22,000 students. It's about a 2 hour 50 drive from Stockton and 4 hours from San Jose. Personally, I think Fresno would be best for cost and easy AHL travel, but Sacramento would be best for accessibility. The entire management/ training staff already visits San Jose several times a year. They could easily take a two hour drive to visit Sacramento, then get on a direct flight home. Or when the team is in L.A., Las Vegas or Phoenix, a few execs/ development staff could take a direct flight to Sacramento, stop for a day or two, then go back to Vancouver. Edited June 29, 2019 by GoldenAlien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I would say Sacramento because I don't like Fresno as a word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kenhodgejr Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 11:48 AM, GoldenAlien said: Interesting development, there are now six AHL teams in California (San Jose, Stockton, Bakersfield, Ontario, San Diego) and one in Arizona (Tucson). Wonder if the Canucks would look into putting a team in the area -- same time zone and much easier flight access. Plus the Aquilinis have long had business interests in California. Some options: Fresno, CA -- the largest city in the Central Valley, over 500,000 people in the city and nearly 1 million in the metro area. It's located in between the northern and southern California teams for easy travel and only a 1 hour 40 minutes drive from Bakersfield. The Selland Arena seats 7,600, which is perfect for AHL hockey. The city is home to California State University, Fresno (over 24,000 students who might be interested in affordable hockey), and has a history with ECHL/ junior hockey. Bakersfield is a smaller city and makes it work, and it probably wouldn't cost too much to lease Selland Arena. Sacramento, CA -- the Golden 1 Center would be a premium facility, though the team would have to share with the Sacramento Kings. Only two hours from Vancouver via direct flight, and only a 50 minute drive from Stockton and 2 hours from San Jose. The AHL played its outdoor game there in 2015 and drew over 9,300 fans. There are also two major universities in Sacramento -- Cal State Sacramento and UC Davis -- which combine for over 70,000 students. It's the fastest growing city in California and has over 2 million people in the metro area. Reno, NV -- hockey has done well in Nevada and there's interest from both the city and local businesses to bring pro hockey to Reno. In 2016, the city council approved a 10 year agreement with the Reno Puck Club to get a professional minor league team, but financing became a major hurdle. The Reno Puck Club projected $5.6 million to renovate the Reno Events Center, which would seat 5,100. There were no guaranteed tenants or naming sponsors then, so the project fell through. But the Canucks could easily go in and revive the plans -- $5.6 million is less than one year of Loui Eriksson. Reno is a smaller city -- about 250,000 people in the city and over 450,000 people in the metro area -- but AHL hockey would be the main event and University of Nevada, Reno, has nearly 22,000 students. It's about a 2 hour 50 drive from Stockton and 4 hours from San Jose. Personally, I think Fresno would be best for cost and easy AHL travel, but Sacramento would be best for accessibility. The entire management/ training staff already visits San Jose several times a year. They could easily take a two hour drive to visit Sacramento, then get on a direct flight home. Or when the team is in L.A., Las Vegas or Phoenix, a few execs/ development staff could take a direct flight to Sacramento, stop for a day or two, then go back to Vancouver. Who says it has to be in California. Lets just take Portland Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: Who says it has to be in California. Lets just take Portland Oregon Booo - (I might just have to split my loyalties) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Is this the right time to create new 2019-2020 Utica Comets Thread? Any taker from Utica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray_Cathode Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 2:40 PM, Horvat is a Boss said: I would say Sacramento because I don't like Fresno as a word. I say far Northern California as in Abbotsford! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UticaHockey Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: I say far Northern California as in Abbotsford! I think the likelihood of the Canucks moving their AHL team to Abbotsford is a lot less than it was even two months ago. If the current Canucks management was willing to go it alone and place the farm in an isolated location they would have made plans to move the team this season after the original contract with the Comets expired. But instead they signed another six year agreement to stay in Utica with an out clause after two years. That two years in my opinion was to buy them time to see what the new Seattle team would do with their AHL team. If Seattle placed their AHL team in Washington or Oregon then there would be a regional rival for Vancouver to move the farm to Abbotsford. But Seattle has decided that having their AHL team in California close enough for reasonable bus travel to other AHL cities is more important than having them a short drive from Seattle. If Canucks management didn't want to geographically go it alone before Seattle chose Palm Springs why would they decide to do it now? As @GoldenAlien pointed out the most balanced location for the Canucks would be in California to be in the same time zone as Vancouver but yet closer to other AHL cities in what is primarily a bus league. The problem is all of the Cali cities that have AHL quality arenas are already spoken for. I won't claim to be an expert on California cities but there has been some discussion of this topic on the AHL page of HFBoards and most of the cities that sound like a good potential fit do not currently have ice making equipment in their arenas so an investment would need to be made to allow them to host an AHL team. There is a reason why when the AHL Pacific division was created that teams like Edmonton, Calgary and LA swept in and bought existing ECHL franchises. They had no interest in running an ECHL team, (all three have sold their ECHL franchises after relocating them) they wanted to buy the lease agreements in Bakersfield, Stockton and Ontario respectively. The other two teams that formed the Pacific Division were Anaheim that chose San Diego who had an AHL quality facility already and San Jose who was believed to be sharing the SAP Center temporarily until they find a suitable arena in another California location but that hasn't happened yet. So the bottom line is for Canucks fans that want to see the farm pulled out of Utica the chances are low that it would be relocated close to Vancouver where you could go and buy tickets to watch them in person. The most likely scenario is that they will end up in California and you would never see them play without buying a subscription to AHL TV anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 11:20 AM, kenhodgejr said: Who says it has to be in California. Lets just take Portland Oregon Portlland has a love affair with the Winter Hawks. To get tickets at time you need to get them through scalpers. They don't want either a NHL or AHL team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Fred65 said: Portlland has a love affair with the Winter Hawks. To get tickets at time you need to get them through scalpers. They don't want either a NHL or AHL team Ill take Vancouver Washington as a second pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 10 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: Ill take Vancouver Washington as a second pick Vcr WA. is about 20-30 minutes from Portland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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