NHL'er Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Per Sportsnet. Neal is turning 31 in September. Decent money but another Eriksson / Lucic / Brouwer contract in my view. Going to enjoy watching the Flames struggle with his contract in 3 years PLAYER STATISTIC S S TEAM LEAGUE GP G A TP PIM +/- POST GP G A TP PIM +/- 2002-03 Whitby Wildcats Minor Midget AAA ETAMMHL 47 18 23 41 47 | 15 2003-04 Bowmanville Eagles OPJHL 43 28 27 55 54 | Playoffs 15 12 3 15 22 Plymouth Whalers OHL 9 2 4 6 0 1 | 2004-05 Plymouth Whalers OHL 67 18 26 44 32 -5 | Playoffs 4 1 1 2 6 0 Canada U18 WJC-18 6 1 1 2 6 -1 | 2005-06 Plymouth Whalers OHL 66 21 37 58 109 1 | Playoffs 13 9 7 16 33 5 2006-07 Plymouth Whalers OHL 45 27 38 65 94 28 | Playoffs 20 13 12 25 54 7 Canada U20 WJC-20 6 0 0 0 8 0 | 2007-08 Iowa Stars AHL 62 18 19 37 63 1 | 2008-09 Dallas Stars NHL 77 24 13 37 51 -11 | Manitoba Moose AHL 5 4 1 5 2 4 | Canada WC 3 1 2 3 2 4 | 2009-10 Dallas Stars NHL 78 27 28 55 64 -5 | 2010-11 Dallas Stars NHL 59 21 18 39 60 8 | Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 20 1 5 6 6 -1 | Playoffs 7 1 1 2 6 -1 Canada WC 6 2 3 5 10 3 | 2011-12 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 80 40 41 81 87 6 | Playoffs 5 2 4 6 12 -3 2012-13 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 40 21 15 36 26 5 | Playoffs 13 6 4 10 8 -3 2013-14 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 59 27 34 61 55 15 | Playoffs 13 2 2 4 24 2 2014-15 Nashville Predators “A” NHL 67 23 14 37 57 12 | Playoffs 6 4 1 5 8 0 2015-16 Nashville Predators “A” NHL 82 31 27 58 65 27 | Playoffs 14 4 4 8 8 1 2016-17 Nashville Predators “A” NHL 70 23 18 41 35 -10 | Playoffs 22 6 3 9 14 -8 2017-18 Vegas Golden Knights “A” NHL 71 25 19 44 24 -11 | Playoffs 20 6 5 11 12 0 Enjoy the Brouwer and Neal contracts Calgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Actually Neal's proven himself to be able to succeed on 3 different teams. And he kickstarted Vegas' last year success quite a bit. I think this is a great signing by the flames to add offense to their already solid lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 This’ll be not bad for 2-3 years, but beyond that... well there’s not many players anymore older than 33-34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Actually Neal's proven himself to be able to succeed on 3 different teams. And he kickstarted Vegas' last year success quite a bit. I think this is a great signing by the flames to add offense to their already solid lineup. Agreed with Standing Tall. He'll be great for the first two years but I am sure he won't be worth the 5.75 after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I thought Neal would have gotten paid more on the UFA market, so cost doesn’t seem bad..term on the other hand is a bit much but I’m sure he had other offers. Flames are stacked on LW, still lacking a RW and goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, HI5 said: I thought Neal would have gotten paid more on the UFA market, so cost doesn’t seem bad..term on the other hand is a bit much but I’m sure he had other offers. Flames are stacked on LW, still lacking a RW and goalie. Neal is a RW and Peters says he plans to use Lindholm at RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, mll said: Neal is a RW and Peters says he plans to use Lindholm at RW. I thought Neal wa LW, works if he’s RW. Peters also said he planned to use Tkachuk as RW on the number 1 line after he made the Lindholm comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Vegas apparently offered Neal 5x 5M. No state income tax in Vegas - probably higher net income although lower cap hit vs the Calgary deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovy Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I read Vegas offered 6,5 but maybe only 2 or 3 years. If Neal can produce for a couple more years it beats our 6 x 6 penalty killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Solid reliable scorer, and believe it or not, as bad as our scoring was we actually scored 2 more goals last year than the Flames. Their top-6 looks very solid, but they still have work to do on forward depth and so far have only added the two smurfs from yesterday. Will the contract become an anchor at some point? Time will tell -- he doesn't turn 31 until September so he'll be 35 when it's done. 4 minutes ago, mll said: Vegas apparently offered Neal 5x 5M. No state income tax in Vegas - probably higher net income although lower cap hit vs the Calgary deal. Yeah not sure why he'd jump teams again, especially to leave Vegas for Calgary. That being said, this probably ensures that Vegas takes a significant step back this year -- not so bad for us either, as we didn't run with them very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Lames still suck. Screw them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hard pass at that term. Money is aight, but that term will bite them in the arse in 2-3 years if they cannot move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Drakrami said: Actually Neal's proven himself to be able to succeed on 3 different teams. And he kickstarted Vegas' last year success quite a bit. I think this is a great signing by the flames to add offense to their already solid lineup. Well blow me down.....a positive post from Drakrami ! Oh, wait, it's not about the Canucks ! Your place on the Negative Ninja club is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Not a terrible signing. Consistency helps and Neal has that, 25ish goals are his normal range these days, and he's a bit of a power forward too which gives them some added toughness. Surprised he didn't stay in Vegas though, 5 million there is about the same as 5.75 in Calgary (although they have the best taxes after Nevada and FLorida league wide so it might be close either way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Calgary did alright with this signing tbh, especially considering they desperately needed to do something to help add scoring punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Interesting........I wonder if the current socio/political climate in the US has anything to do with JT and JN leaving money on the table to come back home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Word was that he was headed back to Vegas, but clearly the Flames stepped in and outbid for him. So that begs the question... "Did the Flames overpay in salary and term, because they are a crappy undesirable team to go to and can't control themselves?", like a certain other team some continually make the same accusation against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 One has to wonder why players are so easily pried away from the finalists Knights. They have the cap room to outbid and perhaps they didn't want to set a precedent, but they did sign Reaves for almost 3 million. I guess they're really banking on Tatar to be successful and feel Perron and Neal won't be big losses to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 And now it's time to re-examine the Flames' cap situation. $12.8million available, sitting at 18/23 contracts with the following key RFAs to be signed: Lindholm Hanifin Jankowski Jankowski will get a raise from his ELC, but the first two will likely take the better part of $10million. They also need a backup goalie. The most obvious course of action would be trying to dump the last two years of Brouwer's $4.5mil, unless they plan to move Bennett for nothing but picks and/or prospects but things would still be tight. Brodie's another possibility, but the expectation is they reunite him with Giordano on the first pairing. Stone has 2 years left at $3.5mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Drakrami said: Actually Neal's proven himself to be able to succeed on 3 different teams. And he kickstarted Vegas' last year success quite a bit. I think this is a great signing by the flames to add offense to their already solid lineup. I am with you on that. He is pretty much proven he is worth almost exactly this amount and the term is like any over 30 player: just long enough that the team can use every drop of his ability and just short enough that they aren't in any trouble. For example the cap went up almost his full contract value. In cap dollars last month he costs the flames 2 million, roughly. haha. Next year's cap increase will wipe out the that two and any issues in year five will be worth it for the best available LW this morning. Price of doing business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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