10pavelbure96 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 No trades, we are gonna sign him. Vancouver is Valhalla for Swedes lol. Heaven baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Solinar said: Forget about Nylander for Tanev, boys. It's going to be Nylander, Lillijgren, Kapenen and a first for 2 years for Karlsson. That's just not how it works in Toronto anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 No thanks. Let some other team gut futures on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, DeNiro said: Just have to offer slightly more than the next team is offering. What team is going to part with a player like Boeser and Pettersson? IIRC wasn't Ottawa and Vegas talking trade at the deadline, with Glass being the sticking point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 At this rate I imagine the Golden State Warriors are in on Karlsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Warhippy said: Vancouver is not in on this now nor would they ever be and rightfully so. Any discussion with Ottawa does not include eating Ryans contract so much as it starts with Boeser and Petterson as well as next years 1st round pick. Let someone else overpay Please Please don't make this trade!!! To trade 1st O/A 2019, 2nd rounder 2020, Boser, Joulevi .. This would set Vancouver back 3 years on rebuild.. Karlsson 28 would not make us a playoff team...He is 28 and to give up all those prospect would be just stupid?? Fans amaze me they want a rebuild and then come sign Karlsson??? Never any fan knows it would be stupid to chase karlsson.. He would help the top 10 teams make a series cup run!! We are 2 years away from playoffs. Its called rebuild and no stupid Karlsson trades...Cost way to much to get him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 He goin to toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Blömqvist said: IIRC wasn't Ottawa and Vegas talking trade at the deadline, with Glass being the sticking point? Exactly, even Vegas won't part with their only top prospect and Boeser and Pettersson have higher value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I personally believe we could acquire him without giving up Bo, Boes, Petersson, Hughes, or next year's first. We have other moveable assets like Juolevi, Virtanen, Demko/DiPietro, Gaudette, Gadjovich, Tanev (maybe), Lind, Goldobin, Baer, 2019 2nd/later picks, 2020 1st... If we could negotiate a fair long term extension ahead of time I think it should be worth pursuing. Karl almost single handedly took Ottawa to the finals and he has lots of gas left in the tank. Hall of Fame dmen don't come around too often and I think the Swedish connection plus the up and coming talent we have here would make him a great fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caknuckle Puck Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 PASS...we needa pay some rookies in a few years, id rather keep our players and cap and keep drafting well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 13 hours ago, peaches5 said: Maybe they just want to see what other teams are willing to pay him. He's already got the bar set with Doughty, more than once he's said he won't sign for less....but OTT sure is looking like they won't keep him so might as well get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 hours ago, VanGnome said: WOW. Please be in on this Benning. A top pairing of Hughes + Karlsson would be amazing. Offer to take on Bobby Ryan's horrid contract in order to lessen the amount going back to Ottawa for the trade Better than Hughes+Karlsson pairing is to pair each of them with a defensively stable partner. For example, Edler-Karlsson followed by Hughes-Tanev/Gudbranson. Then, our third pairing would be Juolevi-Stecher. Every pairing can move the puck and skate with the puck. Ryan is signed for 4 more seasons at 7.25M. I think we will be OK taking on his cap hit for the next two, maybe three seasons depending on how the negotiation with Brock goes. With EK and Ryan, 2019-20 salaries could be, EK (D): 12 Ryan: 7.25 Eriksson: 6 Horvat: 5.5 Tanev (D): 4.45 Sutter: 4.375 Gud (D): 4 Marky: 3.66 Baer: 3.66 Gagner: 3.15 Roussel: 3 Beagle: 3 Stecher (D): ~2.8 (estimate, assuming he will get Hutton money) Schaller: 1.9 Virtanen: ~ 1.5 (estimate) EP, Gaudette, Huges (D), Dahlen, Juolevi (D): Entry level That's roughly 70M for 13F, 6D, 1G, with Boeser and Demko to be signed as RFA and Edler as UFA. Assuming Demko comes in at around 3 mil, that leaves about 6+ mil to sign Brock and Edler. Of course, cap could have arisen to maybe 82-84 mil by then, which may give us up to 10 mil to sign Brock and Edler. I guess taking on Ryan's contract will lower the price for acquiring EK, but even then we would have to give up, at minimum 2 roster players (say CDC and my favourites Tanev and Baer), a first round pick (2020 since we need one in 2019 as the host), and/or a high-end prospect (Juolevi caliber?). I'd hate to give up on Juolevi though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 5 hours ago, cdubuya said: I personally believe we could acquire him without giving up Bo, Boes, Petersson, Hughes, or next year's first. We have other moveable assets like Juolevi, Virtanen, Demko/DiPietro, Gaudette, Gadjovich, Tanev (maybe), Lind, Goldobin, Baer, 2019 2nd/later picks, 2020 1st... If we could negotiate a fair long term extension ahead of time I think it should be worth pursuing. Karl almost single handedly took Ottawa to the finals and he has lots of gas left in the tank. Hall of Fame dmen don't come around too often and I think the Swedish connection plus the up and coming talent we have here would make him a great fit. You never do know...I'd say the deck is dealt against us acquiring him for a lot of reasons, but stranger things have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 To Ott: Juolevi (Blue chip D prospect), Baertschi (help replace Hoffman's scoring), Gaudette (blue chip forward prospect), 2020 1st round pick To Van: Karlsson Ryan That would be my offer. We have a ton of forward prospects. We don't lose anything irreplaceable. They get help for now and the future. It might not get it done, but that's as far as my pitch would go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Boeser & Pettersson, next years first lol... You guys are nuts to think EK has that much value, if any. He's a UFA after this year and can walk for nothing just like Tavares. Ottawa will be lucky to get anything for him and they'll likely botch that move as well. Some of these trade proposals are nuts lol. I'd offer up 2020 non lotto 1st and maybe a 2nd and that's it. If they say no then tell the sens we'll offer EK a contract next year when he bolts for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 What Gudbranson and Eriksson for Karlsson won't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 13 hours ago, Alflives said: If EK was signed to an extension, would Edmonton trade Draisatl for EK and Ryan? Would Ottawa? I don't think they will have to. They can offer a nice mix of picks and prospects very hard for others to match. No one is taking Ryan's deal, and Ottawa needs it to get to the cap floor now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Vanuckles said: To Ott: Juolevi (Blue chip D prospect), Baertschi (help replace Hoffman's scoring), Gaudette (blue chip forward prospect), 2020 1st round pick To Van: Karlsson Ryan That would be my offer. We have a ton of forward prospects. We don't lose anything irreplaceable. They get help for now and the future. It might not get it done, but that's as far as my pitch would go. Trading for Karlsson 28 would not be smart...The prospects we would have to give up and this would not make us a playoff team???? Keep on rebuild and don't rush this, we will be very good in 2 years if we keep on rebuild. We can make trades to fill a position when we are ready..We are not ready for big name players at this time of rebuild. Patient patient stay with rebuild and let young prospects mature. We have so many very young guys drafted by Benning :... Boser 21, Pettersson 19, Virtanen 21, Gaudette, 22, Demko 22, Tryamkin 22, Juolevi 20, Hughes 19, Lind 19, Gadjovich 19, Jasek 21, Lockwood 20, Briesbois 21, Chatfield, Sautner 23, Dipietro 19, Bassard, Rathbone 19, Gunnerson 19, Palmu 20, Woo 18 and rest of 2018 picks.. Very exciting Bt drafting. Dahlen 21 - (Burrow trade) , Goldobin - (Hansen trade) I can tell you Karlsson will also want to go to a top 10 team that has chance to will the cup.. His salary will be 11 million x 7 years Keep building these prospects so many almost ready.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, khay said: Better than Hughes+Karlsson pairing is to pair each of them with a defensively stable partner. For example, Edler-Karlsson followed by Hughes-Tanev/Gudbranson. Then, our third pairing would be Juolevi-Stecher. Every pairing can move the puck and skate with the puck. Ryan is signed for 4 more seasons at 7.25M. I think we will be OK taking on his cap hit for the next two, maybe three seasons depending on how the negotiation with Brock goes. With EK and Ryan, 2019-20 salaries could be, EK (D): 12 Ryan: 7.25 Eriksson: 6 Horvat: 5.5 Tanev (D): 4.45 Sutter: 4.375 Gud (D): 4 Marky: 3.66 Baer: 3.66 Gagner: 3.15 Roussel: 3 Beagle: 3 Stecher (D): ~2.8 (estimate, assuming he will get Hutton money) Schaller: 1.9 Virtanen: ~ 1.5 (estimate) EP, Gaudette, Huges (D), Dahlen, Juolevi (D): Entry level That's roughly 70M for 13F, 6D, 1G, with Boeser and Demko to be signed as RFA and Edler as UFA. Assuming Demko comes in at around 3 mil, that leaves about 6+ mil to sign Brock and Edler. Of course, cap could have arisen to maybe 82-84 mil by then, which may give us up to 10 mil to sign Brock and Edler. I guess taking on Ryan's contract will lower the price for acquiring EK, but even then we would have to give up, at minimum 2 roster players (say CDC and my favourites Tanev and Baer), a first round pick (2020 since we need one in 2019 as the host), and/or a high-end prospect (Juolevi caliber?). I'd hate to give up on Juolevi though... Boser contract next year? 6- 6.5 million x 6 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Predict Karlsson is going to Vegas or Tampa both team have assets to make this happen and both are top 10 teams.. So happy we are not in running, 2 yrs this would be a different story.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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