babalu Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 After the Beagle signing I feel we have 2 centres who are very similar with Sutter and Beagle. I also think we could use a more skilled centre to play with Pettersson. Possibly someone who can pplay wing as well if Elias moves to Centre. Curious if other fans think we need to find a more skilled centre or are fine sticking with Sutter. Centres who are rumored to be available: Tyler Johnson (has ntc so may not waive for van - apparently TB were interested in Tanev) Kevin Hayes ( may be expensive with ny looking for futures ) Victor Rask ( Had an off year and was rumored to be offered to mtl for 2 2nds) I personally would want to avoid trading pick or prospects to acquire and would prefer to trade roster players such as Sutter, Gudbranson, Hutton, Gagner etc Who would you be interested in that is realistically available without giving up futures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I suspect we will just end up either trying a kid at centre (like Pettersson) or use Sutter as a 2nd line guy. Although Sutter works best as a shutdown specialist, he has shown flashes of top six levels of offense before. I am a bit concerned about that though, as Sutter seemed to really like his defensive role last year and returning to a more jack of all trades kind of job might not be something he enjoys as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I could see us going with #1 line center Horvat #3 line center (A) Sutter #3 line center (B) Beagle #3 line center (C) Granlund/Gagner Until Pettersson is ready for center duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, babalu said: After the Beagle signing I feel we have 2 centres who are very similar with Sutter and Beagle. I also think we could use a more skilled centre to play with Pettersson. Possibly someone who can pplay wing as well if Elias moves to Centre. Curious if other fans think we need to find a more skilled centre or are fine sticking with Sutter. Centres who are rumored to be available: Tyler Johnson (has ntc so may not waive for van - apparently TB were interested in Tanev) Kevin Hayes ( may be expensive with ny looking for futures ) Victor Rask ( Had an off year and was rumored to be offered to mtl for 2 2nds) I personally would want to avoid trading pick or prospects to acquire and would prefer to trade roster players such as Sutter, Gudbranson, Hutton, Gagner etc Who would you be interested in that is realistically available without giving up futures. Jay Beagle....thats about where you are at with this. We are not going to trade up at Center or top 4 D with the line up we currently have. to get one of those you would have to move a prospect and a good one at that. Be patient and let Benning Draft a center next draft and maybe another good D prospect. Trading is not going to improve our lot at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: I could see us going with #1 line center Horvat #3 line center (A) Sutter #3 line center (B) Beagle #3 line center (C) Granlund/Gagner Until Pettersson is ready for center duty. until petterson and / or gaudette are ready for center duty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, -AJ- said: I suspect we will just end up either trying a kid at centre (like Pettersson) or use Sutter as a 2nd line guy. Although Sutter works best as a shutdown specialist, he has shown flashes of top six levels of offense before. I am a bit concerned about that though, as Sutter seemed to really like his defensive role last year and returning to a more jack of all trades kind of job might not be something he enjoys as much. I think he was a very willing team mate to take on the role, but probably wouldn't mind some more scoring chances. The +'s for Sutter as 2C imo are: solid face-off guy, not a smurf, good wrist shot, decent speed. The -'s: not a classic playmaker, not really a net presence. But with the right line with two better playmaking wingers like Pettersson and Eriksson it could work out well. Given where the team is at I don't see the need to go crazy trying to find another C for the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I think he was a very willing team mate to take on the role, but probably wouldn't mind some more scoring chances. The +'s for Sutter as 2C imo are: solid face-off guy, not a smurf, good wrist shot, decent speed. The -'s: not a classic playmaker, not really a net presence. But with the right line with two better playmaking wingers like Pettersson and Eriksson it could work out well. Given where the team is at I don't see the need to go crazy trying to find another C for the upcoming season. I recall him saying in interviews that he felt that last year, he didn't have a very defined role and that he was glad to have a more clear role on the team this year. It seemed unusual to me at the time, as I think it's rare to see a player glad to have more defensive responsibilities, but I'm not sure how much Sutter would like to do a mix of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 If Granny works his butt off at faceoffs he could do the trick. There's a lot more offense to his game than we saw last year. Gaudette could be that guy soon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, -AJ- said: I recall him saying in interviews that he felt that last year, he didn't have a very defined role and that he was glad to have a more clear role on the team this year. It seems unusual to me at the time, as I think it's rare to see a player glad to have more defensive responsibilities, but I'm not sure how much Sutter would like to do a mix of everything. I kind of thought that was more of a shot at Willie.... but that could just be me projecting things I suppose the other option... erp.... is Gagner as 2C.... Eriksson-Gagner-Pettersson in a very sheltered 70% o-zone start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I like Grandlund in Offensive role with Pettersson and Erickson and Virtanen as alternate on line.. 1. Beartchi - Horvat - Boser 2.Petterson - Grandlund - Erickson ( Virtanen against fast teams) 3. Liepsic - Sutter -- Virtanen ( Erickson ) 4. Schaller - Beagle - Gaudette ( Gagner) I would try a few different combinations at centre on 2nd line...Grandlund I do like he plays a 200 foot game and has some talent..He just was put in shut down role last year and then injury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just be sure to give Petersson someone with some real offensive skill to work with. Baertschi/Dahlen Sutter Petersson Sutter worries about the faceoffs and the defensive end and Petersson can have some time and space to create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinar Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I'm pretty sure the 2nd line center will be officially Sutter. It will probably be Pettersson, Sutter, and Eriksson. I think it could be effective, with Pettersson taking draws when necessary, and have 2 relatively good defensive players who have shown finish to play with and cover up any of his mistakes. Basically, giving him the max potential to succeed and limiting any effects of his mistakes till he just outright steals the center job away from Sutter. At that point, you trade Sutter because Beagle is the cheaper alternative and Sutter is the better asset to receive something of note from in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I imagine Sutter will take the role to start, and as the season progresses they'll try to work Pettersson into the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinar Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 At which point the line up at forward will be this Baertschi Horvat Boesser Pettersson Sutter Eriksson Goldobin Beagle Virtanen Schaller Gaudette Rousel Gagner and Gaunce as extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I think the center depth will start like this: 1. Horvat 2. Sutter 3. Gaudette/Gagner 4. Beagle By the end of the year, my hope is that this is what the center chart looks like: 1. Horvat 2. Pettersson 3. Gaudette 4. Beagle Sutter either gets traded, or moved to the wing. Ditto with Gagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ryan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, -AJ- said: I recall him saying in interviews that he felt that last year, he didn't have a very defined role and that he was glad to have a more clear role on the team this year. It seemed unusual to me at the time, as I think it's rare to see a player glad to have more defensive responsibilities, but I'm not sure how much Sutter would like to do a mix of everything. My opinion is that he was just glad to have a defined role, even if it was defensive...instead of not really knowing what he was going to do from game to game. That's the way I took it, anyway. Who knows? My main sport (playing) was football; I always preferred defense to offense...much preferred to do the hitting as opposed to getting hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Oh..Gagme with a Spooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Stick with Gagner. Play him with Elias. Gagner will get a good 40-50 points playing with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I have been thinking of our Center possibilities...… 1. Horvat will be the number one center this year....no doubt, and no surprise 2. I think Sutter is a pretty good defensive player, who also has a pretty good FO%, he is versitile 3. Pettersson, is a offensively talented Centerman / Winger...….not so good at FO's 4. Gaudette is a 200 ft. Offensive / Defensive rookie Center 5. Beagle...a hard working, physical Centerman, who has excelled in a 4th position 6. Gagner, is a journeyman offensive center, with decent PP skills 7. Gaunce......often forgotten defensively responsible Center, who plays a very under-rated game 8. Dahlen, yet another rookie, with Centermen skills (least we forget) By Christmas In my opinion, we will have a first line, and then 3-3rd line team...……….Pettersson will play on the first line, and will get 1st line PP time with Horvat and Boeser The second line (which will be still Offensive) will be Baertschi, Gaudette and Eriksson, with Baertschi and Eriksson, providing veteran leadership to Gaudette The third line will be Roussel, Sutter and Virtanen....this line will reek havoc, as it will be a fast, defensive, hard hitting, pain in the a$$ line 4th line will be ……..Shaller, Beagle and Gagner Leipsic/Gaunce/Granlund will fill in for injuries Trades will alter this line-up, as both Dahlen and Goldobin will also push to make the team. PS..Gaudette will start in Utica, so that the Canucks can protect Leipsic There will be trades, as only Pettersson, Gaudette and Dahlen are waiver eligable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, babalu said: After the Beagle signing I feel we have 2 centres who are very similar with Sutter and Beagle. I also think we could use a more skilled centre to play with Pettersson. Possibly someone who can pplay wing as well if Elias moves to Centre. Curious if other fans think we need to find a more skilled centre or are fine sticking with Sutter. Centres who are rumored to be available: Tyler Johnson (has ntc so may not waive for van - apparently TB were interested in Tanev) Kevin Hayes ( may be expensive with ny looking for futures ) Victor Rask ( Had an off year and was rumored to be offered to mtl for 2 2nds) I personally would want to avoid trading pick or prospects to acquire and would prefer to trade roster players such as Sutter, Gudbranson, Hutton, Gagner etc Who would you be interested in that is realistically available without giving up futures. The concerns are valid, Sutter is great defensive player but has never really done much offensively, both for CAR and PIT. L.E. on the other hand has, both in Dallas and in Boston so with there is a decent chance Pettersson will have enough to work with to do his thing. I'd expect Boeser will get the Sedins minutes or they split them somewhat evenly between the top two lines which will mean Sutter isn't just trying to get possession and move it up ice, they should have a lot more time in the other zone to score a goal. If for some reason it's not working, they can always change things back and try Beagle that's where things get dicey (both because it isn't working and that also not his game either). On the bright side Benning has not gone ahead and bought a second line center that would effectively block Pettersson in the future. I'm pretty sure the long term plan is to play Pettersson at center with Dahlen plus another winger, maybe Boeser and drop Horvat to the second line, to me will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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