Hawk eagle = hockey goal Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I think Sutter will be the second line center in terms of minutes but not necessarily in terms of offense. Then Pettersson could play on a line centered by Gagner/Gaudette/Granlund which would get more o-zone starts and provide more offense but get fewer minutes. Perhaps something like: Roussel - Sutter - Eriksson -> match-up line Gagner - Gaudette - Pettersson -> offensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hawk eagle = hockey goal said: I think Sutter will be the second line center in terms of minutes but not necessarily in terms of offense. Then Pettersson could play on a line centered by Gagner/Gaudette/Granlund which would get more o-zone starts and provide more offense but get fewer minutes. Perhaps something like: Roussel - Sutter - Eriksson -> match-up line Gagner - Gaudette - Pettersson -> offensive line Gagner does nothing to help any defensive lapses the rookies might have. I would rather see Eriksson with Pettersson and Granlund with Sutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: I have been thinking of our Center possibilities...… 1. Horvat will be the number one center this year....no doubt, and no surprise 2. I think Sutter is a pretty good defensive player, who also has a pretty good FO%, he is versitile 3. Pettersson, is a offensively talented Centerman / Winger...….not so good at FO's 4. Gaudette is a 200 ft. Offensive / Defensive rookie Center 5. Beagle...a hard working, physical Centerman, who has excelled in a 4th position 6. Gagner, is a journeyman offensive center, with decent PP skills 7. Gaunce......often forgotten defensively responsible Center, who plays a very under-rated game 8. Dahlen, yet another rookie, with Centermen skills (least we forget) By Christmas In my opinion, we will have a first line, and then 3-3rd line team...……….Pettersson will play on the first line, and will get 1st line PP time with Horvat and Boeser The second line (which will be still Offensive) will be Baertschi, Gaudette and Eriksson, with Baertschi and Eriksson, providing veteran leadership to Gaudette The third line will be Roussel, Sutter and Virtanen....this line will reek havoc, as it will be a fast, defensive, hard hitting, pain in the a$$ line 4th line will be ……..Shaller, Beagle and Gagner Leipsic/Gaunce/Granlund will fill in for injuries Trades will alter this line-up, as both Dahlen and Goldobin will also push to make the team. PS..Gaudette will start in Utica, so that the Canucks can protect Leipsic There will be trades, as only Pettersson, Gaudette and Dahlen are waiver eligable It just seems we have too many third liners. I personally feel we could use a bit more skill in our top six if it could be obtained without giving up picks or prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: I kind of thought that was more of a shot at Willie.... but that could just be me projecting things I suppose the other option... erp.... is Gagner as 2C.... Eriksson-Gagner-Pettersson in a very sheltered 70% o-zone start? no no no our best offensive line needs to get the majority of the ozone starts the team needs to score goals we lost 100 points from 2 veteran players let's maximize scoring opportunities for our 1st line whatever that line is comprised of.. but it has to be the one brock is on i'm still big on petterson playing with bo and brock . i guess he is not really a lw... so that might not work so well but he appeared to play a lot on the left side in so many highlights i saw of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 All of you guys that even mentioned Gagner as a reasonable option need to go look yourself in the mirror and say "Gagner is a second line centre" If you can say that to your own face without laughing you should get a job in politics, or just punch yourself in the mouth. Whichever has less appeal. Gagner... Bah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Since this is a throwaway year anyways I really want to give big minutes to Baertschi and Granlund to see what we have in them. Baertschi - Granlund - Virtanen feed this trio second line minutes the entire year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I’m kind of at the point where I just want to throw Pettersson there and see how he does. Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Goldobin - Pettersson - Virtanen Roussel - Sutter - Eriksson Leipsic - Beagle - Granlund That could be an explosive top six. Bunch of potential with a veteran-laden bottom six behind it. I’d still like to see a trade for a 2C but I’d be happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, Pears said: I’m kind of at the point where I just want to throw Pettersson there and see how he does. Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser Goldobin - Pettersson - Virtanen Roussel - Sutter - Eriksson Leipsic - Beagle - Granlund That could be an explosive top six. Bunch of potential with a veteran-laden bottom six behind it. I’d still like to see a trade for a 2C but I’d be happy with that. I'd love to see Pettersson playing centre eventually, but he excelled as a winger in Sweden and wasn't used in that role at all there. Why force him into it here? I think it's really Granny's opportunity to make or break as a top six player. He's got the defensive awareness now, was evident last season. He has playmaking and scoring swagger as we saw when he played with the twins. Now it's time for him to work his ass off on the dot and prove he can be that guy. His lackluster faceoff abilities are the only thing in his way IMO. I want me some Granny. I have a feeling he and Pettersson would gel real gud. Maybe Greener would consider moving Jake to the left side with those two? Jakey looks good on the left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 5 hours ago, -AJ- said: I suspect we will just end up either trying a kid at centre (like Pettersson) or use Sutter as a 2nd line guy. Although Sutter works best as a shutdown specialist, he has shown flashes of top six levels of offense before. I am a bit concerned about that though, as Sutter seemed to really like his defensive role last year and returning to a more jack of all trades kind of job might not be something he enjoys as much. 100% agree, Sutter even said during WD's tenure that it often left him confused as to what his real role was on the team. Thought Sutter was in a good spot last year as a third line shutdown guy, and actually looked far more energetic because he wasn't expending too much energy. You play Brandon Sutter as a 2nd line centre, you can guarantee he will see PP2 mins, and top PK minutes. Already last year, Sutter averaged 15 mins 5v5 and got his remaining 2-3 minutes on the PK. Those mins add up, and likely will make him the TOI leader. Do you really want Brandon Sutter playing 18+ minutes a game? Absolutely not. At some point you are either going to wear down Bo Horvat from overusing/overdependent of him, or frustrate Brandon Sutter because he cannot find his niche which he already had. You don't want neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmautzie Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mathew Barzal said: Since this is a throwaway year anyways I really want to give big minutes to Baertschi and Granlund to see what we have in them. Baertschi - Granlund - Virtanen feed this trio second line minutes the entire year. I like that idea but would like to see Boeser on the right wing instead of Virtanen. I think Granlund is a better set-up centre than Horvat and Boeser could benefit from playing with him. I’d like to see Pettersson play on the wing with Horvat. Hopefully Green tries a lot of line combos in the preseason and finds something that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmautzie Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The Pittsburgh newspapers are speculating that Derek Brassard is available due to salary cap concerns. He has one year remaining on his contract. He could be the right fit to fill the second line centre position until Pettersson is able to do it. I’m not sure if Brassard would agree to come here because he does have a ten team no-trade list in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Schmautzie said: The Pittsburgh newspapers are speculating that Derek Brassard is available due to salary cap concerns. He has one year remaining on his contract. He could be the right fit to fill the second line centre position until Pettersson is able to do it. I’m not sure if Brassard would agree to come here because he does have a ten team no-trade list in his contract. That could be a good fit. I wonder what it Pitt would be looking for. Probably not wanting any sallary back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Schmautzie said: I like that idea but would like to see Boeser on the right wing instead of Virtanen. I think Granlund is a better set-up centre than Horvat and Boeser could benefit from playing with him. I’d like to see Pettersson play on the wing with Horvat. Hopefully Green tries a lot of line combos in the preseason and finds something that works. That was actually going to be my initial proposal, but I didn't think people on here would fancy splitting up Bo and Bo. I definitely would prefer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmautzie Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 10 hours ago, babalu said: That could be a good fit. I wonder what it Pitt would be looking for. Probably not wanting any sallary back. Hopefully they would be happy just with the cap dump and would take back a minor leaguer like Reid Boucher in return. Like when San Jose gave us Christian Ehrhoff for Patrick White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 It seems most people are happy keeping Sutter or other current roster players as our 2nd line Centre vs. Looking for a more offensive 2nd line centre. Are people happy with Sutter as our 2nd line centre on team tank - lose for hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beagle had landed Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 On 7/9/2018 at 5:09 PM, Solinar said: I'm pretty sure the 2nd line center will be officially Sutter. It will probably be Pettersson, Sutter, and Eriksson. I think it could be effective, with Pettersson taking draws when necessary, and have 2 relatively good defensive players who have shown finish to play with and cover up any of his mistakes. Basically, giving him the max potential to succeed and limiting any effects of his mistakes till he just outright steals the center job away from Sutter. At that point, you trade Sutter because Beagle is the cheaper alternative and Sutter is the better asset to receive something of note from in a trade. This is how I see the season starting out for Pettersson before he blows everyone away and centers his own line before the halfway point of the season. His intelligence and skill is too elite for him not to. The one thing that concerns me is other teams players targeting him with cheap shots and after whistle shenanigans. Is Sutter enough of a deterent? Gudbranson won't be on the ice every time Pettersson is. Does having Roussel or Schaller or maybe Virtanen as a linemate make more sense? It will be interesting to see what Green does. Would you rather Eriksson, Sutter, Pettersson 2nd line, or Roussel/Schaller, Pettersson, Virtanen 3rd line to start the season? Baertschi Horvat Boeser Goldobin Sutter Eriksson Schaller Pettersson Virtanen Roussel Beagle Granlund Gagner Could be an effective line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinar Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, The Beagle had landed said: This is how I see the season starting out for Pettersson before he blows everyone away and centers his own line before the halfway point of the season. His intelligence and skill is too elite for him not to. The one thing that concerns me is other teams players targeting him with cheap shots and after whistle shenanigans. Is Sutter enough of a deterent? Gudbranson won't be on the ice every time Pettersson is. Does having Roussel or Schaller or maybe Virtanen as a linemate make more sense? It will be interesting to see what Green does. Would you rather Eriksson, Sutter, Pettersson 2nd line, or Roussel/Schaller, Pettersson, Virtanen 3rd line to start the season? Baertschi Horvat Boeser Goldobin Sutter Eriksson Schaller Pettersson Virtanen Roussel Beagle Granlund Gagner Could be an effective line up. See, that's a tough one, as the Canucks have made it very hard to figure out what they're going to do in ways of a lineup for the upcoming season. When I did my prediction on a line-up, I had forgotten about Leipsic and had Gaunce and Gagner as extra forwards. Now I'm wondering what we do to not only protect players from being claimed via waivers, but ice a competitive and winning line-up of the players we have available. Personally, I would prefer to start out with the first combo, and maybe grow into the 2nd organically as the prospects push vets to the side in a convincing way. And that is the biggest question mark. Is Pettersson able to take the job away from Sutter in a convincing way? Till then I still stand by my projection of Sutter as the 2 way pivot that becomes the defensive player going back with Eriksson as the net front and Pettersson as the playmaking winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmautzie Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 2018-07-10 at 2:40 PM, babalu said: It seems most people are happy keeping Sutter or other current roster players as our 2nd line Centre vs. Looking for a more offensive 2nd line centre. Are people happy with Sutter as our 2nd line centre on team tank - lose for hughes? I wouldn’t be happy to see Sutter as our second line centre in the traditional sense of being our second best offensive threat. I think he may be used in the role of second most ice-time centre for defensive matchups and I have no problem with that. I just hope that Green doesn’t try and use him on an offensive role because that will not turn out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Baertschi Horvat Boeser Eriksson Sutter Pettersson Goldobin Schaller Virtanen Roussel Beagle Archibald Gagner Granlund Leipsic Gagner could be waived no one will pick him up , or make a trade Sutter will be our second line center until Pettersson is ready. Gaudette can play in Utica for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck_Drums03 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I feel like playing Granlund with Pettersson at 2nd C could really boost his play and maybe get him back to that 20 goal scorer we all saw him becoming back in 2016/17. If that doesn't work out, Sutter or Gagner could fill that spot until Pettersson can take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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