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1. Edmonton- Matt Murray (Drafted 83rd)……….Originally Drafted- Nail Yakupov

2. Columbus- Andrei Vaselveskiy (Drafted 19th)…….Ryan Murray

3. Montreal- Filip Forsberg (Drafted 11th)…..Alex Galchenyuk

4. NY Islanders- Shanye Gostisbehere (Drafted 78th)…...Griffin Reinhart

5. Toronto- Morgan Reilly (Drafted 5th)……….Morgan Reilly

6. Anaheim- Connor Hellebuyck (Drafted 130th)……...Hampus Linholm

7. Minnesota- Hampus Lindholm (Drafted 6th)……..Matthew Dumba

8. Pittsburgh- Jacob Trouba (Drafted 9th)……..Derrick Pouliot

9. Winnpeg- Fredrick Anderson (Drafted 87th)…..Jacob Trouba

10. Tampa Bay- Matthew Dumba (Drafted 7th)…….Slater Koekkoek

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Disagree with Hellebuyck being so high. I think we need to see more from him before we put him ahead of others who have been playing at a more consistent level. He had a very good year, fantastic even. However, he has really only had 1 year of being an above average starter, and might be a low key regression candidate as the Jets led the league in preventing high quality shots.

 

1. Murray

2. Forsberg 

3. Vas

4. Ghost

5. Lindholm

6. Reilly

7. Parayko

8. Trouba

9. Hellebuyck

10. Dumba

 

Man...that draft class was pretty weak.

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2 hours ago, Patrick Jane said:

1. Edmonton- Matt Murray (Drafted 83rd)……….Originally Drafted- Nail Yakupov

2. Columbus- Andrei Vaselveskiy (Drafted 19th)…….Ryan Murray

3. Montreal- Filip Forsberg (Drafted 11th)…..Alex Galchenyuk

4. NY Islanders- Shanye Gostisbehere (Drafted 78th)…...Griffin Reinhart

5. Toronto- Morgan Reilly (Drafted 5th)……….Morgan Reilly

6. Anaheim- Connor Hellebuyck (Drafted 130th)……...Hampus Linholm

7. Minnesota- Hampus Lindholm (Drafted 6th)……..Matthew Dumba

8. Pittsburgh- Jacob Trouba (Drafted 9th)……..Derrick Pouliot

9. Winnpeg- Fredrick Anderson (Drafted 87th)…..Jacob Trouba

10. Tampa Bay- Matthew Dumba (Drafted 7th)…….Slater Koekkoek

 

52 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

Disagree with Hellebuyck being so high. I think we need to see more from him before we put him ahead of others who have been playing at a more consistent level. He had a very good year, fantastic even. However, he has really only had 1 year of being an above average starter, and might be a low key regression candidate as the Jets led the league in preventing high quality shots.

 

1. Murray

2. Forsberg 

3. Vas

4. Ghost

5. Lindholm

6. Reilly

7. Parayko

8. Trouba

9. Hellebuyck

10. Dumba

 

Man...that draft class was pretty weak.

 

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2 minutes ago, -Stammer- said:

I don't get how so many of you are putting Murray above Vasilevskiy, 

What is your argument for having Vas above Murray? I'll give you mine for having Murray over Vas, and it's really simple.

 

Murray's career stats: 111 games, GAA: 2.58, SV% .917

Vas's career stats: 155 games, GAA: 2.61, SV% .917

 

Murray's career playoff stats: 44 games, GAA: 2.08, SV%: .923

Vas's career playoff stats: 29 games, GAA: 2.68, SV%: .919

 

Murray: 2 Cups

Vas: 0

 

I'm very curious to see the argument, or any argument that can be made that has Vas over Murray. Obviously he had a better year than Murray than last year, but since when do we make judgments based off 1 season instead of the full body of work?

 

 

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I think Andreas Athanasiou (taken 110th by Detroit) could slip into that top 10 and certainly be in the top 1/2 of that first round.   

 

PS - while not a brilliant draft for top end NHL stars, few drafts have two of the last three picks ending up playing NHL games.     The 2012 draft had that and has had 7 overall 7th round picks play in the NHL...not too bad.   

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55 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

What is your argument for having Vas above Murray? I'll give you mine for having Murray over Vas, and it's really simple.

 

Murray's career stats: 111 games, GAA: 2.58, SV% .917

Vas's career stats: 155 games, GAA: 2.61, SV% .917

 

Murray's career playoff stats: 44 games, GAA: 2.08, SV%: .923

Vas's career playoff stats: 29 games, GAA: 2.68, SV%: .919

 

Murray: 2 Cups

Vas: 0

 

I'm very curious to see the argument, or any argument that can be made that has Vas over Murray. Obviously he had a better year than Murray than last year, but since when do we make judgments based off 1 season instead of the full body of work?

 

 

You're right in terms of "what they have done so far"... but I ranked based on combination of potential plus career accomplishments/stats. I think that Vas has more room to grow, whereas Murray shows difficulty staying healthy and performing when he doesn't have Fleury supporting him. 

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17 minutes ago, Down by the River said:

You're right in terms of "what they have done so far"... but I ranked based on combination of potential plus career accomplishments/stats. I think that Vas has more room to grow, whereas Murray shows difficulty staying healthy and performing when he doesn't have Fleury supporting him. 

That is fair, and you are, of course, titled to your opinion. I actually find it interesting and entertaining to see where people list certain players in redrafts and how we perceive players differently.

 

 I personally think both are not even close to their ceilings/potential as goalies generally hit their primes much later than a skater.

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