12-16-FG Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Dallas sends Spezza 2019 3rd round pick, 2020 1st round pick Van sends Sutter This allows for dallas to work hard for Karlsson, and clear up money Van gets a ok 2nd line centre for another year till his contract is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Spazza waives his NTC exactly why again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canckelhead Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 add Grandlund and call it a day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 i agree with Fanuck and spezza and a 3rd for the 1 year cap dump (this might even be a bit rich, spezza is still a player, so it is really about a 3 million cap dump) sutter is worth a 1st round draft pick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 The Spezza move worked for Dallas as a cap dump and for Van because they could have used a 2C for 1 year. And since the draft, Benning has made free agent moves predicated on not being able to get a 2C. I too, don't see Spezza waiving Giving up Sutter makes it a meh deal. Very short term thinking. Sutter is one of the most underrated Canucks imo. Spezza wouldn't stay more than a year so this deal would weaken the Canucks in the medium term because they're swapping a younger 3C (29) for an older 4C (32) as their shut down centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12-16-FG Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 The thinking is about the return of draft picks, van can afford this dump and gives dallas a better position to get Karlsson. Spezza waiving his NTC is a problem (he doesn't) but if Van holds on to Sutter they are in no better position than last year, no disrespect to sutter. He is a very good 3C on any team, but move him up to 2C, he has repeatedly shown a step back. And as far as the picks, i thought more along the lines of the first for taking on Spezza and the 3rd for Sutter. This was just a thought of utilizing our cap space. We all know Van won't be any better than last year, and if so marginally. So realistically van is in the same spot, and dumping a contract next year, with a possibility of getting 1st OA in 2019. Some other contracts come off next year, and positions open up. Van is close to a mediocre standings position in 2 years time and in a better position to challenge when the core is taking their next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 6 hours ago, 12-16-FG said: Dallas sends Spezza 2019 3rd round pick, 2020 1st round pick Van sends Sutter This allows for dallas to work hard for Karlsson, and clear up money Van gets a ok 2nd line centre for another year till his contract is done. What does Dallas have left to pay for Karlsson if they trade us a 1st and 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12-16-FG Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 the 1st rd would be 2020, 3rd rounder 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: What does Dallas have left to pay for Karlsson if they trade us a 1st and 3rd? Heiskanen one for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 12 hours ago, 12-16-FG said: Dallas sends Spezza 2019 3rd round pick, 2020 1st round pick Van sends Sutter This allows for dallas to work hard for Karlsson, and clear up money Van gets a ok 2nd line centre for another year till his contract is done. Rumor has it Dallas isn't willing to pay to get rid of Spezza. Also likely wouldn't waive for Van and according to some articles wouldn't be a good fit in our locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Blömqvist said: Heiskanen one for one. My own opinion is Dallas should elevate to contebdervby working Heskainen & Honka into a program that works to their strengths, Tyey don’t need Karlsson &!his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 On July 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Canuck Surfer said: What does Dallas have left to pay for Karlsson if they trade us a 1st and 3rd? Dallas would never give up a 1st rounder and 3rd.. Spezza only has 1yr left on contract 7.5 million... Dallas might give a 3rd pick and prospect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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