trek Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 At least 10 seriously injured in Greektown shooting: paramedics LOCAL by NEWS STAFF Posted Jul 22, 2018 10:24 pm EDT Last Updated Jul 22, 2018 at 11:19 pm EDT As many as 10 people have been taken to hospital, including a child, following a mass shooting in Greektown. Toronto police were called to an area outside a restaurant on Danforth Avenue near Logan Avenue around 10 p.m. following reports of multiple gunshots. Witnesses tell CityNews that they heard up to 25 gunshots. Paramedics tell CityNews the scene encompasses several blocks and a number of victims have sustained significant injuries. Six victims have been transported to trauma centres, 1 to a pediatric trauma centre and two to local hospitals while an unconfirmed number of people are being treated at the scene. The fate of the gunman is unknown at this time but unconfirmed reports say the shooter is no longer active. Police are asking anyone who may have witnessed the shootings to go to a command post that has been set up at Pape Avenue and Danforth Avenue. The TTC says subway trains are bypassing Chester station due to the police activity in the area. Shooter is dead. https://www.680news.com/2018/07/22/least-10-seriously-injured-greektown-shooting-paramedics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 This is so sad, humans can be ugly, repulsive animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SabreFan1 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 One of the victims is a kid. Here's the gunman opening fire. There are fatalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I have no words. A literal child dead as well And the only thing worse is how people will jump to conclusions or use it as a political soundboard If anything could be worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 The number is going up now. 14 people shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, gurn said: This is so sad, humans can be ugly, repulsive animals. Ya, and giving them guns is such a good idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, coolboarder said: Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. If you're going to take the narrative that people should have guns, then everyone who possesses a gun shall learn how to safely operate a weapon. They must pass rigorous tests in order to be allowed the use of a weapon. An accidental discharge, IMHO, should be grounds for a license suspension and/or remedial training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, coolboarder said: Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. No. Just no. Canada has gun laws. They work. Ask America how arming everyone is going. So...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, coolboarder said: Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. There’s plenty of good research showing that more guns equals more gun deaths. https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2013.301409 The above study showed “that for each percentage point increase in gun ownership, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9%.” https://academic.oup.com/epirev/article/38/1/140/2754868 The above source (a review of 130 different studies on gun control) shows how laws that restrict and regulate gun ownership reduce the rate of firearm fatalities. And as for “stand your ground” laws: http://www.nber.org/papers/w18187 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2582988 https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/stand-your-ground.html https://www.researchgate.net/publication/292209114_The_relationship_between_stand-your-ground_laws_and_crime_A_state-level_analysis The above sources show how “stand your ground” laws actually result in increased homicide rates. They also have no discernible effect in decreasing overall crime rates. In fact, in some studies, “stand your ground” laws have actually been found to “result in an increase in murder, gun-related murder, rape, and robbery” (Gius 2016). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Adding a few serial numbers to firearms is not going to stop gun violence. What we need are more police, more courts, more jails, and tougher sentences. Our system is superior to the US. Is there some weird rules? Absolutely. Could it be improved? Yes. Canada has 0.61 homicides per 100,000 due to firearms US is 11.96 Australia which has tougher regulations has 0.18 UK has the toughest rules of them all has 0.06 The other good thing about licensing firearms is by taking a course or two, you learn to handle them safer. Keeping firearms trigger locked, or in a safe also means you get time to cool off. Is our system perfect? No. But I like it the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 hours ago, coolboarder said: Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. Yeah, because there is no mass shooting in the US??? Gun control in Canada is not there to eradicate shootings, it's there to prevent and limit them from happening as much as possible. Which I believe it does, but this is not a perfect world, these things will continue to happen as long as the human race is being human, despite any prevention/protection in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I'll be shocked if the shooter had gotten his handgun legally. From the eye witnesses he seemed mentally disturbed, or under some psychiatric influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish⑦Canuck Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 hours ago, coolboarder said: Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 hours ago, coolboarder said: Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. Wtf is wrong with you? Are you truly that daft or just trolling with the utmost of bad taste. I honestly cannot tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 hours ago, coolboarder said: Even with the gun control in Canada, people still shoot. The best way to reduce gun-related death is to arm law-abiding citizens to protect each other. It is better to have one being shot and killed and someone there to shoot to stop that shooter on spot to prevent more tragedy than 14 shots at and potential more death toll when nobody can stop the shooter without the gun. The law itself does not prevent shooting and it could be a surprise. When it happens you wish you had a gun yourself to stop that person if you are in a wrong place at a wrong time scenario. We cannot even rely on police as they are minutes away and higher death toll when they finally arrive at the scene.. Also the issue in Canada, there's no stand by your ground law and even if you stop that gunner, you could be charged for that crime when it's prevented from harming even more people. No protection for that one. You're welcome to move down to the US, I hear there are guns everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Why has To, become so gun violent? any local have some insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, Hugor Hill said: I'll be shocked if the shooter had gotten his handgun legally. From the eye witnesses he seemed mentally disturbed, or under some psychiatric influence. Me as well. I see this has turned in to a gun debate and people keep missing the fact it was a hand gun. Hand guns are restricted and require an additional test and training. I'm certain this individual aquired this pistol illegally. This is a terrible tragedy. RIP and hopefully those injured make a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, riffraff said: Why has To, become so gun violent? any local have some insight? Gangs and illegal firearms coming up from the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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