*Buzzsaw* Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Did everyone notice the sequence with Ryan McDonagh in the third? Canucks are trying to clear the zone, someone tries a pass to Jake at the blue line... McDonagh decides he'll step up and flatten Jake. McDonagh is not some spring chicken, he's been around, he's a solid 215 lbs... BUT... despite having the momentum, he bounces off Jake like he was a lightweight and ends up on his butt. Meanwhile Jake calmly clears the puck and heads for the bench for a change. So McDonagh takes offense, then the rest of the Lightning take offense and they all swarm Jake.... which doesn't work out so good for them either, as they all bounce off like pinballs and Stamkos who is also not a lightweight gets tossed on his butt too... with Jake's one hand. Afterwards on the Bench, Jake sits there like some overgrown kid who's a little worried somebody spotted him swiping the hot pie off the window sill... oblivious to the whole ruckus he's caused... I think that whole sequence helped to get the Lightning off their game and also got the Canucks going harder. Somebody on the Canucks needs to take Jake into a room and show him that video over and over again until he gets it into his head he doesn't need to play as cautiously as he does. He could be a one man wrecking crew if he wants to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It's rather hard to teach Hockey IQ. You either have it - or you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, bloodycanuckleheads said: It's rather hard to teach Hockey IQ. You either have it - or you don't. He doesn't need a hockey IQ to hit and be physical... he just needs to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, bloodycanuckleheads said: It's rather hard to teach Hockey IQ. You either have it - or you don't. So they shouldn't try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: He doesn't need a hockey IQ to hit and be physical... he just needs to do it. You need hockey IQ to know when he needs to use it and when to not use it. Smart players will know when its necessary to make the hit and crash and bash. Hockey idiots like Tom Wilson don't and make dumb hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Did everyone notice the sequence with Ryan McDonagh in the third? Canucks are trying to clear the zone, someone tries a pass to Jake at the blue line... McDonagh decides he'll step up and flatten Jake. McDonagh is not some spring chicken, he's been around, he's a solid 215 lbs... BUT... despite having the momentum, he bounces off Jake like he was a lightweight and ends up on his butt. Meanwhile Jake calmly clears the puck and heads for the bench for a change. So McDonagh takes offense, then the rest of the Lightning take offense and they all swarm Jake.... which doesn't work out so good for them either, as they all bounce off like pinballs and Stamkos who is also not a lightweight gets tossed on his butt too... with Jake's one hand. Afterwards on the Bench, Jake sits there like some overgrown kid who's a little worried somebody spotted him swiping the hot pie off the window sill... oblivious to the whole ruckus he's caused... I think that whole sequence helped to get the Lightning off their game and also got the Canucks going harder. Somebody on the Canucks needs to take Jake into a room and show him that video over and over again until he gets it into his head he doesn't need to play as cautiously as he does. He could be a one man wrecking crew if he wants to be. Leave it for the playoffs (when we get there again) when the refs swallow their whistles. Right now, Jake's physicality seems to take other teams by surprise. Case in point. He is flying under the radar and we don't want a target on his back for suspensions. I say let teams just try and continue to do that and get nothing out of it. Continue to develop his hockey IQ. I turned on the game late and saw Jake make another poor decision with the puck, trying to pass on the rush instead of waiting for help. He didn't even pass the puck in the direction of the guy he wanted to hit. He passed it to one of Tampa's guys and there was an odd man rush the other way. He needs to keep it simple. Skate the puck in, because he's fast enough, wait for help, start the cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Good game tonight,very good actually, but man oh man seeing him come down the right side wide is so frustrating, there's only two plays he makes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Zhukini said: Good game tonight,very good actually, but man oh man seeing him come down the right side wide is so frustrating, there's only two plays he makes He got 2 empty net points...it wasn't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, Noseforthenet said: He got 2 empty net points...it wasn't that good. Good for what he's done previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Zhukini said: Good game tonight,very good actually, but man oh man seeing him come down the right side wide is so frustrating, there's only two plays he makes Yes, he really needs to learn to cut to the middle, he is strong enough on his skates to do it, just needs to want to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Anyone have a video of what OP was describing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 And by the way... I'm not dumping on Jake. I think he's been on a steady improvement curve... he is getting better. But I would just like to see that breakout moment... when he gets to the point where he really starts to use his physical abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, RRypien37 said: Anyone have a video of what OP was describing? Sorry I erased my PBR before I thought about posting this topic. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The Virtanaplan is coming together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Noseforthenet said: He got 2 empty net points...it wasn't that good. If he wasn’t having a good game coach wouldn’t trust him enough to have him out there defending a lead while the other team had 6 guys on the ice with the net empty. You would haven’t seen this 1 year ago. He was a beast on the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Why the hate? Hes fast, hits hard, plays hard and is young! Brings an edge to our group. Virtanen is awesome. It’s only time before his physical presence starts giving him more room to be creative with the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I also really want to see a clip of this hit and the scrum.... big plus for anyone who finds it. Anyways - highlight of the game for me was Boeser scoring but I love me some Jake physicality too !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superglu Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Jake's defensive awareness is increasing every game. Love the way he's been physical but he'll develop more through experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjr Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 That was a good sequence. I loved the ruckus at the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, RRypien37 said: Anyone have a video of what OP was describing? https://streamable.com/8lp7h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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