OneSeventeen Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Shinkaruk was a Gillis draft pick. Enough said. What a waste of a 1st round pick. The Canucks got Granlund in return from the trade, who has been a decent player for the Canucks for the past 4 seasons. Where's Hunter? Playing with Laval, and not making any noise there. This trade is similar. Carcone was never going to be a Canucks player, better players ahead of him. Canucks got Leivo basically for nothing. We still don't know how that will work out, but my guess is he'll get more NHL points than Carcone. I just checked Shinkaruk's stats. 6 points in 22 games. Brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, chilliwiggins said: Well at least Jim didn't give him a 2nd for him lol I think most of CDC would have been happy if we had traded Gagner with 50% retained for Leivo. A 2nd round pick would have cause a tire fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Nice guy eddy said: Yes indeed he does get the trash ! That’s why he doesn’t make a play , instead he just takes it to the net , & that’s not always work’n out for him !’ He needs a skilled winger with some finesse! & that’s what jimbo needs to be look’n for, because Green is just gonna keep giving him trash to work with ! It’s a waste of talent. He needs Boeser & Bearchie , Ep was fine with Goldy & Eriksson Greens trying to hide benning mistakes. Bo works hard and make the others look like less of waste of ice, kinda like hiding pooalot with tanev. But not even tanev could hide the mess. Bo should get some skill to play with, put ep on the wing and give him bB and Ep. play the he ll out them. Prime years of BH career will be spent with trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, chilliwiggins said: Ya I was just reading his contract. Bullet-proof lol Well he should be on Sutters line for the duration and hone his shut down skills, to keep him off the top 2 lines I agree. Keep him in the bottom six and if that doesn't work sit him in the press box. He can't seem to finish anymore and can't create on his own or for others. I know it won't increase his trade value (if that's possible) but it's where he belongs until he proves otherwise. Maybe it will make him decide to try and facilitate a trade or retire. Wishful thinking....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Is he someone who sticks up for his team mates? Maybe deflect some of the liberties on Petey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, mll said: Eaves was a 30 goal scorer that season with his time in Dallas. That's the benefit of playing with top players. Doesn't really change what I said at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, combover said: Greens trying to hide benning mistakes. Bo works hard and make the others look like less of waste of ice, kinda like hiding pooalot with tanev. But not even tanev could hide the mess. Bo should get some skill to play with, put ep on the wing and give him bB and Ep. play the he ll out them. Prime years of BH career will be spent with trash. Need two offensive lines. One is too easily shut down. Never mind that Horvat's also been performing double duties of a shut down line while Beagle/Sutter (and Baer) have been out. Unfortunately, with injuries and still only mid'ish rebuild, we just have a lack of viable top 6 options. That's not a 'mistake', it's simply a reality of being a mid-rebuild team with injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 "We're looking at all of our options now. We want to get younger, faster add more skill to our group. We'd also like to get bigger. I think we did that with Leivo today. If we can make our group better and it matches our plan long term, we'll make that move." - Benning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Nice news to wake up to. Kinda wonder if this might set the table for further(bigger) Van/TML biz? Bet they want to improve D, near TDL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Need two offensive lines. One is too easily shut down. Never mind that Horvat's also been performing double duties of a shut down line while Beagle/Sutter (and Baer) have been out. Unfortunately, with injuries and still only mid'ish rebuild, we just have a lack of viable top 6 options. That's not a 'mistake', it's simply a reality of being a mid-rebuild team with injuries. One offensive line is better than none. Load it up see what happens. Bo a workhorse warrior, he should be rewarded with some line mates that aren’t just duds.atleast once in a while aside from the pp. Beagle return will help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 is Leivo actually a good player or has the Toronto media made him sound like a good player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: Thinking about it, we really do need help on the wings. Goldy has been a bright spot sure, but Boeser and Baertschi have been out for lengthy stretches, Leipsic got himself cut, and we've even been desperate enough to give Schaller a look in the top 6. Leivo will get a huge opportunity here. Absolutely... we know the guys that haven’t made it and we have tried lots of combinations. It makes sense to throw a couple new bodies in there who still have upside to see if any magic can happen. Plus it would be sweet to see Toronto fans lose their crap watching him get 20 goals playing in a top 6 role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Roberts said: is Leivo actually a good player or has the Toronto media made him sound like a good player? I seem to remember him starting the year in TOs top 6, didn't last long there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFerguson Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: JB working the lineup and getting things done! No complaints here. Keep moving the fringe players around until someone steps up and forces you to keep them. Even with all the losing still having a great time this season. Feel bad for all the bandwagoners who never get to enjoy the actual building process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, combover said: One offensive line is better than none. Load it up see what happens. Bo a workhorse warrior, he should be rewarded with some line mates that aren’t just duds.atleast once in a while aside from the pp. Beagle return will help a lot. And he will. Eventually. All of this adversity and challenge will serve him well when those guys arrive/develop in coming years (when it matters). For now, we're a mid-rebuild team dealing with injuries. Screaming at those realities won't change them. And yes, Beagle returning will help immensely (as will Sutter when he gets back). It allows him to play less, less defense, less hard minutes and focus more on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Roberts said: is Leivo actually a good player or has the Toronto media made him sound like a good player? They were likewise fretting about losing Leipsic in the expansion draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 "When you're in my position, our fans understand we're playing young players and that's the future of our team. They'll be the core of our team going forward. You always want to walk the fine line of winning your share of games while developing players. It's been unfortunate to have so many injuries to our experienced players. It's not fair to our young guys to put so much pressure on them to win as they're finding their way in this league." - Benning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Western Red said: I seem to remember him starting the year in TOs top 6, didn't last long there though. I'm not too sure about that as he only played between 7:24 and 12:15 through his first 5 games of the season. Maybe he only lasted 1 period though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I wouldn't mind giving him Schaller's spot for a bit. Good pick up up JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Goldobin - Bo - Jake Leivo - EP - Boeser ^I'd also like to see something like this. *Problem* Gags, Gran & Loui is quite soft & slow in our bottom 6. Be nice when some of that fluff blows away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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