Are You A Yellow Vest?

[Ryan Strome]

On 12/16/2018 at 5:09 PM, Jimmy McGill said:

There are some good ideas in there. We don't really need the 40% boost in all social programs in Canada but maybe targeted ones around things like seniors pharmacare.

 

I like this one a lot: 

• The barring of lobby groups and vested interests from political decision-making

the Military?

On 12/16/2018 at 5:11 PM, Jimmy McGill said:

its called debt. 

Something Canada is very familiar with under Trudeau.

[Warhippy]

Ladies and gentlemen...

 

Canada's Yellow Vest Movement

 

*language warning*

 

 

[Tortorella's Rant]

These retards ruined the movement here before it even got started. Thanks a lot.

[Warhippy]

I was not kidding about the people in this movement in Canada and they way they differed from that of the one in France.  I was a member of a few of these groups and the rhetoric and language is EXACTLY the same.

 

Also, props to Charlie Angus for saying what we all should be thinking about these idiots

 

 

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4830265/facebook-removes-comments-yellow-vests-canada-trudeau-threats/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalBC&fbclid=IwAR36aFvlZHTn3MuXpafWutn3P9dXGXDgUNPMd_5q1h_PbFhayBMo-ERWXj4

 

 

Facebook began removing content from the Yellow Vests Canada Facebook group on Wednesday after Global News reported the page contained numerous comments about killing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

The social media company said the action was taken because the content violated its community standards. Facebook said it was continuing to review the group, which has more than 100,000 members.

Administrators of the page cautioned commenters to watch their language, and one said in a statement to Global News that they “do not tolerate this kind of talk, and it will be dealt with.”

 

But comments wishing for and advocating the death of the prime minister remained on the page, which launched a month ago following the so-called “yellow vests” protests in France.

“Trudeau needs to be shot,” read one of the comments.

“Why hasn’t anyone shot him yet,” another read.

“Shoot the mother already,” read yet another.

The Prime Minister’s Office said it did not comment on matters related to Trudeau’s security

“I’m surprised that they’re sounding off like that in a public forum,” said Doug Kirkland, a private security consultant and former Ottawa police officer.

“The RCMP can’t afford to say it’s just nothing. All it takes is one of these to actually act out on what they’re talking about.”

The RCMP said it was aware of the Facebook comments.

“We take all threats made against the prime minister very seriously,” said Staff Sgt. Tania Vaughan, an RCMP spokesperson.

While some users urged members not to use violent rhetoric, the group was rife with comments about the prime minister’s death, raising concerns that an extremist might take action.

A Twitter account called Yellow Vests Canada Exposed has been tracking the comments and tagging the RCMP and Canadian Security Intelligence Service.

The Facebook group describes itself as a protest against the carbon tax and politicians who it claims are selling “our country’s sovereignty over to the globalist UN and their tyrannical policies.”

NDP MP Charlie Angus took to Facebook to admonish what he called the “rising tide of extremism that demonizes the Prime Minister and immigrant families.”

“I am fed up with the crazy-assed messages I’m receiving from those who say they will take up arms to defeat ‘Justin’ or who claim he is a ‘Jihadist’ who has robbed their rights,” he wrote.

“This bullsh*t extremist talk has no place in Canada. We are better than this. As citizens we have a duty to call out this extremist rhetoric and restore civic discourse and debate.”

[Warhippy]

3 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

These retards ruined the movement here before it even got started. Thanks a lot.

They really did man.  Everyone I know who was genuinely excited about it, about possibly moving to affect genuine change for the better was/is disgusted at what happened.

 

Immigrants and selfie man are bad

 

That's their entire movement here now

[Toews]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

They really did man.  Everyone I know who was genuinely excited about it, about possibly moving to affect genuine change for the better was/is disgusted at what happened.

 

Immigrants and selfie man are bad

 

That's their entire movement here now

Eventually every movement is co-opted by nutcases. They just so happened to do so almost instantly in this case.

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, Toews said:

Eventually every movement is co-opted by nutcases. They just so happened to do so almost instantly in this case.

The irony again is that the movement in France is very VERY socialist in their demands.  Here is the exact opposite.  The people most against the kinds of policies France is demanding are the ones picking up the vests here and saying "ya we want stuff too"

 

It's sad

[Warhippy]

 

[Gurn]

13 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

NDP MP Charlie Angus took to Facebook to admonish what he called the “rising tide of extremism that demonizes the Prime Minister and immigrant families.”

“I am fed up with the crazy-assed messages I’m receiving from those who say they will take up arms to defeat ‘Justin’ or who claim he is a ‘Jihadist’ who has robbed their rights,” he wrote.

“This bullsh*t extremist talk has no place in Canada. We are better than this. As citizens we have a duty to call out this extremist rhetoric and restore civic discourse and debate.”

don't know which riding Mr. Angus reps for, but I wish he was my M.P.

[Warhippy]

3 minutes ago, gurn said:

don't know which riding Mr. Angus reps for, but I wish he was my M.P.

He's always been one of the good ones.

[bishopshodan]

21 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Ladies and gentlemen...

 

Canada's Yellow Vest Movement

 

*language warning*

 

 

Thanks for posting, had a (sad) giggle listening to her. Glad I watched to the end where he educated her about origin of the term Nazi. The 88 on the dork's vest behind her kinda isn't a deep code there either.

 

I know my answer to the poll question now.

[Warhippy]

17 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Thanks for posting, had a (sad) giggle listening to her. Glad I watched to the end where he educated her about origin of the term Nazi. The 88 on the dork's vest behind her kinda isn't a deep code there either.

 

I know my answer to the poll question now.

Uhh Nazi is short for national socialist

 

OMG it so is not guys omg

 

[canuckistani]

On 12/16/2018 at 11:45 AM, luckylager said:

The ultra rich should be taxed more than 25%. They don't spend what they have, just sit on their mountain of money and laugh while half the world starves.

 

25% for the middle class, or families earning $100k-$150k is reasonable. But tax rates should be higher for higher earners. 

 

I'm thinking 90% on yearly earnings over $2m though. There's absolutely no reason anybody needs to take home more than $2m/yr. 

I am thinking the tax should be 90% for anything over 45,000. There is absolutely no reason anyone needs to take home more money than what they need to put food in their belly, pay rent and buy clothes. 

[Tortorella's Rant]

21 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

I am thinking the tax should be 90% for anything over 45,000. There is absolutely no reason anyone needs to take home more money than what they need to put food in their belly, pay rent and buy clothes. 

Not sure if trolling or one of your regularly stupid posts.

[Warhippy]

Some...good company in these groups I see.

 

The absolute ignorance and willingness people are showing with a desire to believe these crackpot theories is so very very sad

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/yellow-vests-canada-alberta-1.4974721

 

This weekend in Edmonton, protesters wearing bright yellow vests will gather at the Alberta legislature. Just like they did last weekend, and every weekend before that for the past month. 

"No point making all those beautiful signs if nobody gets to see 'em," an organizing group said in a Facebook post about plans for Saturday's rally. "Looking forward to our biggest turnout yet."

Some protesters may stand at the podium shouting conspiracy theories about how powerful Jewish families control the world, as one man did at a rally at the Alberta legislature on Jan. 5.

Some may sport red "Make Alberta Great Again" hats while recording the crowd with their cell phones, in an effort to be their own media.

 

Members of anti-immigration group Soldiers of Odin, which was founded in Finland by a white supremacist, attended a December yellow vest rally in Edmonton. (Scott Neufeld/CBC)

Others may prowl on the sidelines dressed like they belong to a biker gang. Only instead of Hells Angels patches, they have "Wolves of Odin — Canadian Infidels" sewn onto the back of their leather jackets.  

But most of the protesters are not voices from the fringes. Some have jobs building high-rises or driving for Uber. Others are teachers, pipefitters, real estate agents.

One thing in common

And while their message may be muddled by a cacophony of divergent grievances and opinions, they all have one thing in common: they feel ignored and like they are being left behind.

"Certainly there's this growing discontent that governments are ignoring the concerns of ordinary citizens," said Chaldeans Mensah, a political scientist at MacEwan University in Edmonton.

 

MacEwan University political scientist Chaldeans Mensah says the protests are fuelled by concerns that governments are ignoring the concerns of ordinary citizens. (CBC)

That's echoed by Lynn Smith, a former oil and gas worker who now works in the school system. The yellow vest rally on Jan. 5 marked the fourth time she had attended such an event.

"They're just giving our country away," Smith said about why she was there. "We have no rights anymore. They're taking them all away. No more Lord's Prayer. But they're putting praying rooms in schools … Merry Christmas — you're not allowed to say [that] anymore. It's supposed to be 'Happy Holidays.'

"They're changing our country and we've got to stand up and say something about it because this is our country. I was born here. My parents were born here. … It's wrong."

The protesters say they are not opposed to immigration, but much of the focus of Edmonton's yellow vest rallies has been on who comes into the country, and how they get here.

"We're overwhelming our resources," said Brent Webster, a father of five who works in the construction industry.  "We can't properly vet these people and make sure it's safe for them to come in and make sure that they're skilled and assimilate to our country and know our ways and our values."

Trudeau a target

In January 2017, soon after U.S. President Donald Trump put in place a travel ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau delivered a message via Twitter: "To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #Welcome to Canada."

Not long after that, the flood of irregular border crossings into Canada spiked. Some asylum seekers were put up in hotels while their claims were being processed. Critics said Trudeau's tweet contributed to the border crossing issue.

Then, in December, Trudeau signed the United Nations global migration pact, a non-binding initiative designed to provide an understanding among nations about how to deal with the global migration crisis.

 

At the same time, people in Western Canada have been losing their jobs, and projects that could bring work to area — like pipelines — are stalled. And a carbon tax appears on their heating bill. And their restaurant and child care bills go up, tied to the latest hike in Alberta's minimum wage.

"Trudeau keeps giving all of our money away to immigrants," said Samantha Quaghebeur, a mother of five. She attended the Jan. 5 rally with Webster, her husband, and two of their children. It was her first protest — for any cause.

"We are stuck paying for all of his money that he wants to give away to everybody but Canadians. My kids are going to grow up, my grandkids and all their kids are going to be poor and stuck in a hole that they're never going to get out of."

 

Immigration is not the only issue on the yellow vest agenda. A manifesto making the rounds online lists "illegal immigration" as just one of many concerns: carbon tax, pipelines, dependence on foreign oil, electoral reform, transfer payments, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and sovereignty over immigration policies.

Meanwhile, a different group of Western Canadians has been bringing a pro-pipeline message to the streets. Groups like Rally 4 Resources and Canada Action have held rallies in communities across Alberta, calling for an end to Bill C-48 and changes to Bill C-69, which they say makes it more difficult to get pipelines built in Canada.

These protesters are organizing a convoy of of big rigs from Western Canada to Ottawa next month, which will end with a rally on Parliament Hill.

While their pro-pipeline message overlaps with that of the yellow vest protesters, they are not the same. In recent days, the pro-pipeline groups have distanced themselves from yellow vest protesters, who have been accused of harbouring racism.

 

Even the yellow vest protesters can't agree on who the "official" yellow vests are. Glen Carritt, who is organizing a "yellow vest" convoy to Ottawa (different from that organized by Canada Action), said he is not affiliated with other groups calling themselves yellow vest protesters.

Whether or not other Canadians agree with the message of the yellow vest protesters, political scientist Mensah said they should not be ignored.

"If we observe these demonstrations, try to understand where they're coming from and not simply dismiss them as crackpots or anti-immigrant," he said.

"Because if we do that, some of these people may go underground, which is not a healthy situation for the democratic system."

[Warhippy]

Canada's Crossing Guard Revolution now threatening radio hosts and their families too....

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4840763/radio-host-threats-yellow-vest/

 

Radio NL host Brett Mineer took to Twitter on Wednesday to comment on what he felt were the uglier elements of the movement, including what he described as racist elements and conspiracy theories.

“Having the Prime Minister come to town and seeing just what gross, terrible human beings are out among us with their delusional conspiracy theories, racism, disrespect and total inability to engage in good faith conversation makes me want to get off this planet ASAP,” tweeted Mineer.

 

 

 

Shortly afterward, in the wake of revelations of threats against the prime minister in the Yellow Vests Canada Facebook group, he hosted a radio show segment focusing on what he called the “fetishization of murder.”

For a guest, he had someone from Yellow Vests Canada Exposed, a Twitter account that has been keeping track of the extreme elements of the movement.

“And then I got a message from Yellow Vests Canada Exposed with some screenshots that I was now a target on the Yellow Vests Canada page,” Mineer told CKNW’s Lynda Steele Show.

“Someone posted a link to my personal Facebook page, all of the email addresses for the radio station went up on the site, and then the hate started rolling in.”

Mineer said he’s no stranger to online abuse, and that at first the comments were merely “gross,” but well within the limits of free speech.

 

But he said it didn’t take long for things to cross a line, and soon he was being bombarded with emails and direct messages.

 

 

“People had been sleuthing around and they found out where my wife was and they were like, ‘Maybe she should be raped and killed by a Muslim and then maybe he’ll get why this is the worst prime minister ever,'” he said.

“And then somebody else said, ‘Can somebody in Kamloops wait for him outside of the building for when he gets off work and beat the “blank” out of him.’

“I was having trouble holding it together, especially when I saw the stuff about my wife, it was so disgusting and so far below the belt and completely insane.”

The Facebook group describes itself as a protest against the carbon tax and politicians who it claims are selling “our country’s sovereignty over to the globalist UN and their tyrannical policies.”

But in a reply to another Global News reporter following the threats against Prime Minister Trudeau, a moderator said “Yellow Vests Canada is against criminality, violence or the advocacy of violence,” before pinning the blame on “fake” accounts allegedly created by opponents of the movement.

 

 

One aspect that Mineer found particularly shocking, however, was that many of the people sending the abuse were not anonymous, and used Facebook profiles completely open to the public.

“These are men and women with families, they’ve got photos at the soccer games and all this, and they’re telling me I should die and my wife should be raped and all the rest,” Mineer told CKNW.

“It’s just insane, and you see who these people are and they look like normal people you would see in the park with their kids… and they’re behaving this way online.”

David Tindall, a UBC sociologist with a focus on social media and social movements, said the distance created by the online environment can allow people to separate themselves from the real impact of what they are saying.

“When you’re doing this on a computer as opposed to, say, face-to-face, you’re not getting a lot of the non-verbal cues that you would get,” he said.

“It’s one thing to kind of threaten people [with] violence, but also when people are writing in all caps or swearing or saying intimidating things, the perpetrators are not seeing the feedback that you would get in a kind of more face-to-face encounter and realize that maybe they need to tone it down.”

Tindall added that the online environment has also allowed people with extreme views who might once have been isolated to come together and feed off each other’s energy.

“In the old days you might have had people who were kind of outliers in terms of their views or what they were willing to say, and they might say it at home at the dinner table or over a neighbour’s fence and kind of get a disbelieving stare and that was the end of it,” he said.

“But now they can seek out people online who share similar views, and that sort of helps build a critical mass of people who are doing this sort of thing and reinforcing one another.”

Tindall said when it comes to politics and social movements, violence and threats have always been a part of the situation — pointing to the U.S. civil rights movement, or threatening talk during B.C.’s environmental “war in the woods” of the 1990s.

But he said he’s seen evidence of increasing polarization in Canada, something he attributes to the breakdown of rules about what’s acceptable south of the border in the Trump era.

“Norms and barriers have been reduced, or thresholds have been reduced, and people feel emboldened to make threats,” Tindall said.

“The vast majority are just bluffing, but there’s always one or two of them that aren’t.”

 

[Ryan Strome]

On 1/9/2019 at 12:27 PM, Tortorella's Rant said:

Not sure if trolling or one of your regularly stupid posts.

To be fair he responded to a stupid communist post.

[kingofsurrey]

[aeromotacanucks]

So let me see if I'm understanding...

 

Yellow vests in France: we want less taxes

 

Yellow vests in Canada: 

 

We're against everything Trudeau says 

 

 

Right?

 

PS: I'm not taking sides here, it's a domestic Canadian issue and I want to understand it properly 

[johngould21]

11 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Canada's Crossing Guard Revolution now threatening radio hosts and their families too....

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4840763/radio-host-threats-yellow-vest/

 

Radio NL host Brett Mineer took to Twitter on Wednesday to comment on what he felt were the uglier elements of the movement, including what he described as racist elements and conspiracy theories.

“Having the Prime Minister come to town and seeing just what gross, terrible human beings are out among us with their delusional conspiracy theories, racism, disrespect and total inability to engage in good faith conversation makes me want to get off this planet ASAP,” tweeted Mineer.

 

 

 

Shortly afterward, in the wake of revelations of threats against the prime minister in the Yellow Vests Canada Facebook group, he hosted a radio show segment focusing on what he called the “fetishization of murder.”

For a guest, he had someone from Yellow Vests Canada Exposed, a Twitter account that has been keeping track of the extreme elements of the movement.

“And then I got a message from Yellow Vests Canada Exposed with some screenshots that I was now a target on the Yellow Vests Canada page,” Mineer told CKNW’s Lynda Steele Show.

“Someone posted a link to my personal Facebook page, all of the email addresses for the radio station went up on the site, and then the hate started rolling in.”

Mineer said he’s no stranger to online abuse, and that at first the comments were merely “gross,” but well within the limits of free speech.

 

But he said it didn’t take long for things to cross a line, and soon he was being bombarded with emails and direct messages.

 

 

“People had been sleuthing around and they found out where my wife was and they were like, ‘Maybe she should be raped and killed by a Muslim and then maybe he’ll get why this is the worst prime minister ever,'” he said.

“And then somebody else said, ‘Can somebody in Kamloops wait for him outside of the building for when he gets off work and beat the “blank” out of him.’

“I was having trouble holding it together, especially when I saw the stuff about my wife, it was so disgusting and so far below the belt and completely insane.”

The Facebook group describes itself as a protest against the carbon tax and politicians who it claims are selling “our country’s sovereignty over to the globalist UN and their tyrannical policies.”

But in a reply to another Global News reporter following the threats against Prime Minister Trudeau, a moderator said “Yellow Vests Canada is against criminality, violence or the advocacy of violence,” before pinning the blame on “fake” accounts allegedly created by opponents of the movement.

 

 

One aspect that Mineer found particularly shocking, however, was that many of the people sending the abuse were not anonymous, and used Facebook profiles completely open to the public.

“These are men and women with families, they’ve got photos at the soccer games and all this, and they’re telling me I should die and my wife should be raped and all the rest,” Mineer told CKNW.

“It’s just insane, and you see who these people are and they look like normal people you would see in the park with their kids… and they’re behaving this way online.”

David Tindall, a UBC sociologist with a focus on social media and social movements, said the distance created by the online environment can allow people to separate themselves from the real impact of what they are saying.

“When you’re doing this on a computer as opposed to, say, face-to-face, you’re not getting a lot of the non-verbal cues that you would get,” he said.

“It’s one thing to kind of threaten people [with] violence, but also when people are writing in all caps or swearing or saying intimidating things, the perpetrators are not seeing the feedback that you would get in a kind of more face-to-face encounter and realize that maybe they need to tone it down.”

Tindall added that the online environment has also allowed people with extreme views who might once have been isolated to come together and feed off each other’s energy.

“In the old days you might have had people who were kind of outliers in terms of their views or what they were willing to say, and they might say it at home at the dinner table or over a neighbour’s fence and kind of get a disbelieving stare and that was the end of it,” he said.

“But now they can seek out people online who share similar views, and that sort of helps build a critical mass of people who are doing this sort of thing and reinforcing one another.”

Tindall said when it comes to politics and social movements, violence and threats have always been a part of the situation — pointing to the U.S. civil rights movement, or threatening talk during B.C.’s environmental “war in the woods” of the 1990s.

But he said he’s seen evidence of increasing polarization in Canada, something he attributes to the breakdown of rules about what’s acceptable south of the border in the Trump era.

“Norms and barriers have been reduced, or thresholds have been reduced, and people feel emboldened to make threats,” Tindall said.

“The vast majority are just bluffing, but there’s always one or two of them that aren’t.”

 

Global TV in Lethbridge exposed a group of these Yellow Vest folks, who are known National Socialists. When they first started protesting, which is their right to do so, I wondered how long before the nutcase element would come out. I watched the guy question Trudeau in Kamloops on the news last night, and man, this is frightening stuff, on how clueless people are on immigration matters. The first line is usually, they're taking our jobs, and costing us money. Funny how silent Scheer has been on this, threatening lives of reporters and the Prime Minister of Canada is very serious stuff. Another thought, you have to give Trudeau credit for wading into these forums when the heat is on, he seems to thrive on this platform. Would Harper, Scheer, or Singh do this?  And no, I'm not a Liberal supporter