How long until Markstrom has proven himself?

[The_Rocket]

It’s no secret that Jacob Markstrom is currently playing the best hockey of his career right now. His past 6 games he has 6 wins and a sub 2 GAA. Not only are his numbers really good, but even a fan like me who knows very little about goaltending can tell he looks more solid in the net and is giving up fewer opportunities for easy goals. 

 

Now obviously, 6 games is a small sample size. But I started to wonder, how long until we’re convinced Jacob markstrom can be a legit starter? 1 month? The rest of the season? This season and next season? Lots of goalies have one good year then cool off again (Talbots a couple years ago, Mike Smith last year, etc.). 

 

I’d be wary of labeling him as a bonafide number 1 until at least the end of the season to see if he can at least maintain his above average numbers from here on out. 

 

Anyways, I don’t know how long this play from markstrom is going to last but I’m going to enjoy every minute of it till it’s over. 

[Baratheon]

For me he needs to keep it up for the season.  Pockets of success mid-season isn't enough.  Week to week consistency is what I'm looking for (the odd stinker is inevitable and excusable to a degree)

[Sandro17]

13 minutes ago, The_Rocket said:

It’s no secret that Jacob Markstrom is currently playing the best hockey of his career right now. His past 6 games he has 6 wins and a sub 2 GAA. Not only are his numbers really good, but even a fan like me who knows very little about goaltending can tell he looks more solid in the net and is giving up fewer opportunities for easy goals. 

 

Now obviously, 6 games is a small sample size. But I started to wonder, how long until we’re convinced Jacob markstrom can be a legit starter? 1 month? The rest of the season? This season and next season? Lots of goalies have one good year then cool off again (Talbots a couple years ago, Mike Smith last year, etc.). 

 

I’d be wary of labeling him as a bonafide number 1 until at least the end of the season to see if he can at least maintain his above average numbers from here on out. 

 

Anyways, I don’t know how long this play from markstrom is going to last but I’m going to enjoy every minute of it till it’s over. 

Too many factors to consider, what would his save percentage be? What is his GAA? How many games would he play?

However, even if he were to do well in everything, one month is too short, we'd need to see what he is capable of long term. IMO wait one and a half more seasons and look at his stats. 

[JM_]

I think if he ends the season at around a .910 sv% but more importantly continues to look this confident then I'd say I was wrong about him and he actually could be considered a "starter" - not just technically a #31 guy but someone you would think could possibly get your through round 1 of the playoffs if our defence was healthy. 

[48MPHSlapShot]

Full season.

[Baer.]

He's never finished a season with a winning record

[Twilight Sparkle]

3 minutes ago, Baer. said:

He's never finished a season with a winning record

hes never finished a season with a decent team in front of him. this year really defines his career

[Duodenum]

It'll take the rest of this season and all of next season given his track record to convince me he's a league average starter. 

[MikeyBoy44]

If you mean proving himself in that he is a goalie, I can agree. If you mean as a starter, he never will. He was a great back up and fringe starter but nothing more.

[Googlie]

12 minutes ago, Baer. said:

He's never finished a season with a winning record

Just took the Comets to the Calder Cup finals a few seasons ago. ...... yes. I know it was the AHL, but still refutes your statement.

 

And a 62 - 63 - 17 record as a Canuck isn't too shabby

Edited December 22, 2018 by Googlie

[Baer.]

2 minutes ago, Twilight Sparkle said:

hes never finished a season with a decent team in front of him. this year really defines his career

He doesn't have a decent team in front of him this year either

[Baer.]

1 minute ago, Googlie said:

Just took the Comets to the Calder Cup finals a few seasons ago. ...... yes. I know it was the AHL, but still refutes your statement.

Who cares we are talking NHL

[Blue Jay 22]

Let’s not be prisoners of the moment.

 

Markstrom’s current stat line: 14-9-3, SV% .906, GAA 2.94

 

Markstrom’s career stat line: 73-88-22, SV% .908, GAA 2.85.

 

After being in the league for 9 seasons, he’s exactly what his stat line says he is. An average to below average starting goaltender for a team (though he would probably make a great backup for a contending team.) 

 

One hot streak against the likes of Edmonton, St. Louis, Philly, and Columbus does not change his reputation.

[Odd.]

Proving himself of what exactly? A capable starting goaltender, or a capable NHL goaltender? The latter, he's on his way. The former? Not even close, at least not as of yet.

 

There's a lot of factors to consider when talking about a proven goaltender. Allowing maybe 1 to 5 BAD goals a month, having the occasional stinker which is fine, solely winning games or stealing them, stuff like that. If I see that consistently from Markstrom, then he's on his way to proving himself that he's a viable starting goaltender.  But I need to see that from him consistently. I would say around 2 to 3 years.

 

If you were to ask a Blues fan 2 years ago if Jake Allen is a starting goaltender, they would have replied with "he's one of the best goaltenders in the league" and I would have concurred with that statement. Fast forward 2 years later, and all of that success he's had is negated, because he's had 2 really poor seasons. Ask a Blues fan now, and they would tell you he's not a starting goaltender, he's not reliable.

 

Someone that is proven is generally what you want from a back-up goalie.  If you're talking about whether or not he's a proven starting goaltender, he's pretty far from that. He's got to string in a couple of solid seasons to really prove himself as a reliable starting goaltender.

Edited December 22, 2018 by Odd.

[Twilight Sparkle]

Just now, Baer. said:

He doesn't have a decent team in front of him this year either

i'd say he does. he's done just fine, given what he has. he seems less shaky in net this year than prior years, especially last year. i still wouldn't call him a #1 starter, but a solid NHL backup. thats all this team has rn

[D.B Cooper]

It’s a little late to call him a number 1. 

He is what he is at this point.  

He is a decent placeholder.  

 

Lets just enjoy this little run he is on 

[Baer.]

2 minutes ago, Twilight Sparkle said:

i'd say he does. he's done just fine, given what he has. he seems less shaky in net this year than prior years, especially last year. i still wouldn't call him a #1 starter, but a solid NHL backup. thats all this team has rn

His save% this year is the lowest he's had since his first year as a canuck.

[D.B Cooper]

9 minutes ago, Googlie said:

Just took the Comets to the Calder Cup finals a few seasons ago. ...... yes. I know it was the AHL, but still refutes your statement.

 

And a 62 - 63 - 17 record as a Canuck isn't too shabby

Really?  Because that looks like a losing record to me. 

[Twilight Sparkle]

Just now, Baer. said:

His save% this year is the lowest he's had since his first year as a canuck.

it's probably one of the worst injury plagued seasons this team's had in its history, and we just got through november, yet this team's still toiling at .500 and the team around him's playing the best they can at this level, given what they have, and the injuries in play, or guys still playing hurt. we as fans arent privy to everything.

[Odd.]

1 minute ago, drummerboy said:

Really?  Because that looks like a losing record to me. 

  He's 1 game from .500, and the fact that he's a hair under .500 on a team who's had injury problems, icing 30 different players a season at one point, and  is currently rebuilding, suddenly those numbers don't look all that disappointing.