*UPDATE* Elias Pettersson Has Slight MCL Sprain

[alfstonker]

2 hours ago, Baggins said:

Well said. Much of what Cherry says I agree with. There's also a healthy portion I don't. You need to listen with an open mind and take him with a grain of (old school) salt at times.

 

As much as I respect Petey for wanting to push back, until he adds some muscle to fill out his frame, he's unlikely to win most battles. I felt that was really Cherry's point saying "looking for trouble". He wasn't injured because he was hooked, he was injured because he tried to push back (looking for trouble).

Players can't change their nature. Dorsett was still scrapping right up to the point where he could have been paralysed.

Once more we forget what brought Petey's situation about and how far away the puck was. He needs to be shown to be off limits for that cr-p and it appears our guys don't have it in them.

We may have to wait until EP40 puts on 30lbs before we get someone on this team with the fire in their belly that Dorsett Juice and Rypien had.

[Ted Lasso]

Glad to hear it's a mild sprain and a resulting short absence.  He has become a must-watch player, and has an undeniable impact on the rest of the team.

[Baggins]

21 minutes ago, alfstonker said:

Players can't change their nature. Dorsett was still scrapping right up to the point where he could have been paralysed.

Once more we forget what brought Petey's situation about and how far away the puck was. He needs to be shown to be off limits for that cr-p and it appears our guys don't have it in them.

We may have to wait until EP40 puts on 30lbs before we get someone on this team with the fire in their belly that Dorsett Juice and Rypien had.

Dorsett was 30-35 lbs heavier and a hitter/fighter throughout his career. No real comparison there.

 

And I've seen our guys do "that cr-p" coming off the end boards in our end with the play going the other way. It happens all the time without a penalty call. What brought it about is rather irrelevant. That's why Sutter and Green both said it was a pretty innocent play. Some are overreacting like it was some dirty targeting play, when the reality is it's pretty common throughout the league. I see it happen often and the refs typically let it go as it doesn't really have any effect on the play. Annoying getting held up like that after delivering a hit - you bet (voice of experience). Dirty or malicious - not at all.

 

It wasn't the action (the hook) that caused Pettersson's injury, it was his own reaction to it.

[IBatch]

11 hours ago, canuck2288 said:

Until EP is given some teammates that stick up for him I hope he starts carrying his elbows and stick up high 

 

 

He’s going to have to start swinging at heads soon and using his elbows like you say, just to send a message that he’s not going down quietly.   Howe joined the WHA and everyone wanted a piece of him, what did he do?  First face of he cracked his stick over a guy who we talking trash to him, skated calmly to the box did his two minutes.  Came out did it again.  Every new team he played for the first time it was pretty much the same thing, guys wanted a piece of him because of who he was, he gave them the lumber.  After a month or so nobody came near him again, and if they did well elbows or wood. 

 

Sure nowadays a suspension might be given for doing that, but the premise is the same.  I’d rather somebody else on the team did this for him but that hasn’t happened (yet). 

[IBatch]

8 minutes ago, Baggins said:

Dorsett was 30-35 lbs heavier and a hitter/fighter throughout his career. No real comparison there.

 

And I've seen our guys do "that cr-p" coming off the end boards in our end with the play going the other way. It happens all the time without a penalty call. What brought it about is rather irrelevant. That's why Sutter and Green both said it was a pretty innocent play. Some are overreacting like it was some dirty targeting play, when the reality is it's pretty common throughout the league. I see it happen often and the refs typically let it go as it doesn't really have any effect on the play. Annoying getting held up like that after delivering a hit - you bet (voice of experience). Dirty or malicious - not at all.

 

It wasn't the action (the hook) that caused Pettersson's injury, it was his own reaction to it.

From the overview where I was sitting it looked like Kbyemeavowel was trying to hook him in the groin area, he felt this and turned and they got wrapped around and his legs were purposely rolled which wasn’t necessary to get back up again.  Watching him writhing on the ice with Hutton just staring at them and doing nothing was painful.  EP didn’t cause his own injury, maybe it was  accidental maybe there was some intent despite publicly saying otherwise (he did just tell the world he hated Swedes did he not?) but definitely the contact was made by Khoweveryouspellhisnamemothetf:)ker.

[IBatch]

40 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said:

Glad to hear it's a mild sprain and a resulting short absence.  He has become a must-watch player, and has an undeniable impact on the rest of the team.

Absolutely, and not just for our fans, other buildings have people that want to see him play too, just like it was when Crosby came to town early on, and McDavid not so long ago.  The more he does his incredible and never seen before moves (ok maybe seen but only by Gretzky and a few other guys before him, but he has his own unique style) the more everyone wants to see him play.  Vancouver will become a hot ticket in every building that has a hockey market (not you ARI and not you CAR and not you FLD but Quebec’s arena is sitting their collecting dust).

[MoneypuckOverlord]

11 hours ago, Davathor said:

Wow 3 pages of Don Cherry bashing. He gave Petersson some huge props before, and like it or not - pushback isnt Pete's game. While he shouldn't be taking $&!# from molefaceniemi, the better decision would have been to go and get revenge on the scoresheet. He really doesnt have the build to get caught up in the boards in a shoving match, much like Gretzky.

 

As far as Cherry goes, hes an institution and knows more about hockey than any of you ever will. Old school, borderline racist, sure. But when hes gone Hockey Night in Canada is going to be much less entertaining and HONEST.

 

Seriously get over it people, all the whining over his comment makes us all look like a bunch of crybabies.

Disagreed.  For example today just an example, we are not going to post a topic of how he ripped Malkin for the dumbest reasons today,  or maybe 17 years later he hasn’t the names sedins once, who the &^@# cares, don cherry has no excuse for what he does or says. A lot of us have clearly hated him years ago.  

[MoneypuckOverlord]

12 hours ago, The 5th Line said:

You don't have to watch you know.  

I don’t watch his segments.  This one came to light, was the biggest wtf moment .  He was pretty much saying if you take hit, just skate away, the same old fart that’s been labeling Europeans wimps.  

 

Hes lucky he has no major twitter account.

[MoneypuckOverlord]

13 hours ago, canuck2288 said:

Until EP is given some teammates that stick up for him I hope he starts carrying his elbows and stick up high 

 

 

But if he sticks up for himself he’s looking for trouble.

 

if he doesn’t hes a wimp.

 

And if your European and tough, your considered a weasel.

 

i kid you not.  This is don Cherry’s standards since he was in his 50s.

 

yet his supporters think it’s ok to get away with comments like this because a he’s in his 80s?  Are you &^@# ing kidding me ? I know many 80 year olds that don’t think this way at all.

[brian42]

1-2 week absence.

 

The next game on Thursday will be 1 week.  if he misses that game their next game is on Sunday, is it realistic for him to play in that game? It would be 1.5 weeks from the injury. 

 

Missing only 2.5 game would be pretty lucky although we've already felt the loss. 

[Attila Umbrus]

... I haven't been to a live Canucks game since 2014...I finally bought tickets for the wife and I this year and are road tripping to Van to see the team play FLA this Sunday...all because I wanted to see Pettersson live...and right now my slow tiny brain just realized that most likely he will not be in the game...FML go figure!!...

[alfstonker]

3 hours ago, Baggins said:

Dorsett was 30-35 lbs heavier and a hitter/fighter throughout his career. No real comparison there.

 

And I've seen our guys do "that cr-p" coming off the end boards in our end with the play going the other way. It happens all the time without a penalty call. What brought it about is rather irrelevant. That's why Sutter and Green both said it was a pretty innocent play. Some are overreacting like it was some dirty targeting play, when the reality is it's pretty common throughout the league. I see it happen often and the refs typically let it go as it doesn't really have any effect on the play. Annoying getting held up like that after delivering a hit - you bet (voice of experience). Dirty or malicious - not at all.

 

It wasn't the action (the hook) that caused Pettersson's injury, it was his own reaction to it.

The holiday period has taken too much out of you it seems. Way to miss the point or was it just your over zealous attempt to disagree?

The rest of your post is just puerile and also misses the point, so I won't bother. 

[coastal.view]

On 1/4/2019 at 11:57 AM, NucksPatsFan said:

If the MRI is negative, he's loading it, and there's no swelling or discoloration, what exactly do you expect a knee specialist to do?

 

"Hi I'm Elias, my MRI of my knee shows everything is intact and blood is flowing normally, I can bend my knee and jump on it and run on it, it's not swollen, never was, and the skin is as pasty white as always. Can you help me?"

 

i'm sure that the diagnosis will then be

knee replacement surgery is warranted

this kid is clearly delusional or he would not have been sent here

 

 

[-DLC-]

10 hours ago, Baggins said:

He wasn't injured because he was hooked, he was injured because he tried to push back (looking for trouble).

He wouldn't have pushed back if he hadn't been hooked.  You didn't go back far enough and that's what irked me about Don's comment.  This wasn't Petey's fault...he shouldn't have been hooked which, btw, is an infraction in this game.  Which sort of hints at who was right/wrong here.  The guy looking for trouble was likely the one following/pursuing and hooking away from the play, not the one reacting to it. 

7 hours ago, alfstonker said:

Players can't change their nature.

Exactly.  Petey's a fierce competitor and to expect him to change?   He's a budding superstar and I think these no name wannabes are the ones who need to change if anyone.  I mean, who do you think generates more interest in this league?   A guy who hooks and hauls down or someone of Petey's caliber?   I don't want him changing to adapt to others.  It could have him overthinking things and impact the quality of play we're seeing from him.  

 

 

[bishopshodan]

10 minutes ago, Pickly said:

Jeeze somebody has their panties in a knot over Don Cherry. 

 

I dunno if that poster sounds all that upset. It seems the people that give DC a break and don't mind what he says are really defensive too? at least from my perspective.

You had to use the 'panties in a knot' others have said 'you don't have to watch' "whiners'

 

But why is it such a big deal to comment on some of the daft things he says? 

He's done tonnes for the game, he is also out of date and annoying to some. An online discussion forum seems like the perfect place to expose some of the strange inaccuracies and ignorant comments from any media types..

 

I'm in the camp that would love to see Burke in that spot. Not that I'm a massive fan of his, he just seems a lot more with it. 

[redhdlois]

1 hour ago, Attila Umbrus said:

... I haven't been to a live Canucks game since 2014...I finally bought tickets for the wife and I this year and are road tripping to Van to see the team play FLA this Sunday...all because I wanted to see Pettersson live...and right now my slow tiny brain just realized that most likely he will not be in the game...FML go figure!!...

I went to Vegas in October for the Canucks game and both Brock and Petterson were not playing    

[MoneypuckOverlord]

1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said:

He wouldn't have pushed back if he hadn't been hooked.  You didn't go back far enough and that's what irked me about Don's comment.  This wasn't Petey's fault...he shouldn't have been hooked which, btw, is an infraction in this game.  Which sort of hints at who was right/wrong here.  The guy looking for trouble was likely the one following/pursuing and hooking away from the play, not the one reacting to it. 

Exactly.  Petey's a fierce competitor and to expect him to change?   He's a budding superstar and I think these no name wannabes are the ones who need to change if anyone.  I mean, who do you think generates more interest in this league?   A guy who hooks and hauls down or someone of Petey's caliber?   I don't want him changing to adapt to others.  It could have him overthinking things and impact the quality of play we're seeing from him.  

 

 

But but he’s looking for trouble.  He needs to skate away from the rough stuff do grapes continues his rampage on gutless European players.

 

If euros show their toughness, or grit or some pushback, cherry will have nothing to complain about in his future segments.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, The 5th Line said:

You know lots of 80 year olds?

 

His standards since the 50's and we still have people complaining about it in 2019.  

Not a lot, and none of them are racist or bigots.  

 

You sound like someone who supports a president or a leader like trump.  You keep going by the fact he’s allow to say the stuff he says.  We are not living in the 70s era anymore.  Cherry needs to keep up or retire.

[Canucklehead53]

2 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said:

... I haven't been to a live Canucks game since 2014...I finally bought tickets for the wife and I this year and are road tripping to Van to see the team play FLA this Sunday...all because I wanted to see Pettersson live...and right now my slow tiny brain just realized that most likely he will not be in the game...FML go figure!!...

I haven't been to a game since 2010 - finally got tickets for Feb 23 against Islanders. Wife and I will also be making the trip to Van for the weekend. We were initially debating between the Islanders or the Panthers game. I have already been stressing about Boeser or Petey missing the game so I somewhat feel your pain  :(

 

sorry man...but maybe his recovery will be quick and he will make it for you....I got my fingers crossed for your sake (and the team's sake).

[awalk]

4 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said:

But if he sticks up for himself he’s looking for trouble.

 

if he doesn’t hes a wimp.

 

And if your European and tough, your considered a weasel.

 

i kid you not.  This is don Cherry’s standards since he was in his 50s.

 

yet his supporters think it’s ok to get away with comments like this because a he’s in his 80s?  Are you &^@# ing kidding me ? I know many 80 year olds that don’t think this way at all.

 

Cherry has been senile for a decade.  He referred to Kotkaniemi as a "number 4 or 5 defensman" in an interview on Sportsnet the other day.  

[HerrDrFunk]

4 minutes ago, awalk said:

 

Cherry has been senile for a decade.  He referred to Kotkaniemi as a "number 4 or 5 defensman" in an interview on Sportsnet the other day.  

Could Cherry even pronounce his name? Because he botched every name he tried to say Saturday night; well beyond his old Bieska/Lulongo schtick.