EdgarM Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, butters said: nope, but that insinuation is weak considering that you have missed the point on what I was saying. Which is that the 'C' is pretty much symbolic. And putting it on a player doesn't really change their role in the room all that much. Leaders are leaders. No matter what is on that chest. I'm not disputing that Linden was a leader of that team. I am saying he still would have been a leader if someone else was captain. I guess that's where our points differ in that I see it more then just being "symbolic". It seems the Captain dictates how the team plays as some of the greats have had great teams follow them. Think of Gretzky's teams in Edmonton, Lemieux's teams in Pittsburgh, Yzerman's teams in Detroit, Sakic's teams in Colorado and Crosby's teams seem to do well all the time. I see a pattern here and again I see this person more then just "symbolic". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I guess that's where our points differ in that I see it more then just being "symbolic". It seems the Captain dictates how the team plays as some of the greats have had great teams follow them. Think of Gretzky's teams in Edmonton, Lemieux's teams in Pittsburgh, Yzerman's teams in Detroit, Sakic's teams in Colorado and Crosby's teams seem to do well all the time. I see a pattern here and again I see this person more then just "symbolic". but are you saying that if they didn't have the captaincy that no one would have followed them? O they would have been less of a leader? Edited February 2, 2019 by butters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, butters said: but are you saying that if they didn't have the captaincy that no one would have followed them? O they would have been less of a leader? No obviously I think you need more then one guy to provide leadership but I really think that the Captain sets the tone for what the team does behind him. Not one Captain with a Cup in the last 30-40 years does not display those attributes I described to you earlier. I don't think this is coincidence. Maybe we can go with another Nazzy or a Hank and see how the team plays behind him and see what happens. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, EdgarM said: No obviously I think you need more then one guy to provide leadership but I really think that the Captain sets the tone for what the team does behind him. Not one Captain with a Cup in the last 30-40 years does not display those attributes I described to you earlier. I don't think this is coincidence. Maybe we can go with another Nazzy or a Hank and see how the team plays behind him and see what happens. That wasn't what I asked. I asked that if one of the people you named was not captain, and someone else on the same team was, what difference would it make? Edited February 2, 2019 by butters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted February 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 12:28 PM, NUCKER67 said: It seems to me like Horvat has kind of taken a step back this year - with his presence. Last year, it really appeared that the Sedins were passing the torch to him and it would become his team. This year, even though he's still producing good numbers, he doesn't seem to exactly be leading this team. He's been saying for a year that he would be honoured to wear the C one day and he went out and did everything he could to carry the team on his back and win games. Now, he just seems like another shut-down centerman who quietly goes about his business. Is he doing less interviews too? I wonder if Bo feels slighted by Canucks management for giving his all in previous years, proving himself to be captain worthy, and then having management tell him they're not ready to assign the C to anyone yet. Bo straight up carried this team on his back when Beagle and Sutter went down. I would call that leading on the ice. I also think we notice him being interview less because Petey is the talk of the town. A lot more focus on him this year. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 21 hours ago, butters said: That wasn't what I asked. I asked that if one of the people you named was not captain, and someone else on the same team was, what difference would it make? We have had great players with great character, Kessler going "Beast Mode", Burrows "slaying the dragon" but why do we not have anything to say like that for our last 2-3 Captains? Have we ever seen Hank get on a breakaway and score a winning goal? I don't remember anything like that. I sure do remember Yzerman, Lemieux, Sakic etc. in the playoffs, thats when they excelled. I think we are done with this discussion as it just keeps going in circles. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, EdgarM said: We have had great players with great character, Kessler going "Beast Mode", Burrows "slaying the dragon" but why do we not have anything to say like that for our last 2-3 Captains? Have we ever seen Hank get on a breakaway and score a winning goal? I don't remember anything like that. I sure do remember Yzerman, Lemieux, Sakic etc. in the playoffs, thats when they excelled. I think we are done with this discussion as it just keeps going in circles. Nice post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertorama Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) My Vote would be Bo C Brock A Edler A Tanev A Elias will have his time with and A top I would wait one more season. Edited February 3, 2019 by Bertorama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almo89 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Has to be Bo. This guy has put in the work every year since coming into the league. He knew his skating was not good enough early on and worked on it during the off season without needing the team to tell him to do it. With Sutter and Petey out earlier in the year, he logged some hard minutes. This guy is a workhorse and is an example of what all young guys should replicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The question is, if we hypothetically won the Cup this year, who lifts it first? I think it goes to Edler to be honest... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: The question is, if we hypothetically won the Cup this year, who lifts it first? I think it goes to Edler to be honest... Without question, then Tanev 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Would a Captain lead us to more inspired play then what we have been seeing lately? Petey and Marky have been CONSISTENTLY leading this team lately but the rest leave something to be desired. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Would a Captain lead us to more inspired play then what we have been seeing lately? Petey and Marky have been CONSISTENTLY leading this team lately but the rest leave something to be desired. If I was a video wiz, I’d edit that Kylo Ren/Vader scene into one where Marky talks to Luongo’s old “C” mask. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 This remains a real question with multiple threads emerging. Question: for people saying they’d prefer Horvat because he hits and fights, does he actually do that? Honestly, I think I’ve seen EP throw more hits than him of late. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gong_8 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) Since Elder, Sutter and Tanev have gone down, noticed that Beagle and Roussel have the "A". High praise for 2 players that only came aboard this year. I think the C will be Bo Horvat next year. They could do a special ceremony for the 50th season opener, like they did for Henrik during the 2011 season which was the 40th year. Then I would make a forward and defense man "A" for both home and away. So Horvat "C" Forward "A" Beagle, Roussel or Sutter (probably traded) Defense "A" Elder, Tanev (if they are both here) or Gudbranson (probably will still be here) Did anyone else notice that the 2011 season was the 40th season recognition season instead of 2010 because of the 2005 lockout? So if they followed the same path the 50th season should be the 2020 - 2021 season lol. Edited February 17, 2019 by gong_8 more content 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 hours ago, gong_8 said: Did anyone else notice that the 2011 season was the 40th season recognition season instead of 2010 because of the 2005 lockout? So if they followed the same path the 50th season should be the 2020 - 2021 season lol. Interesting.. I don't think the lock-out factored in, but you're right, I think they celebrated the 40th in 2010/11 season, which would be right, since they were brought into the league in 1970/71. I have a "Canucks at Forty' book published in 2010. So yeah, that's puzzling, because shouldn't the 50th be in 2020/21, like you say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) On 2/14/2019 at 9:57 AM, EdgarM said: Would a Captain lead us to more inspired play then what we have been seeing lately? Petey and Marky have been CONSISTENTLY leading this team lately but the rest leave something to be desired. When you look at it that way, Pete is the only one who has been consistent and lead the team since the first game of the season. Edited February 18, 2019 by Westcoasting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 21 hours ago, Westcoasting said: When you look at it that way, Pete is the only one who has been consistent and lead the team since the first game of the season. I would agree with this. He hasn't taken a game off in terms of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Slegr said: I would agree with this. He hasn't taken a game off in terms of effort. I don't think he has taken a "shift" off never mind a game. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/18/2019 at 5:43 PM, EdgarM said: I don't think he has taken a "shift" off never mind a game. Right before / after the all star break he seemed to be slowing down a bit. But he seems to have turned it up a notch in recent games. Horvat looks like he's giving a good effort in recent games too, just having terrible pick luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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