Guest Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Luckily for this conversation, the Canes wouldn't take Jake straight up for Ferland either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Captain Azzy said: Luckily for this conversation, the Canes wouldn't take Jake straight up for Ferland either yeah, i hope we wouldnt do that either, considering he's most likely going to Hit free agency at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxS3E3DI2N2SxX Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 9:45 AM, kenhodgejr said: I think he is worth Kesler type trade value. 1st round pick roster player prospect I could see Sutter, Goldobin, 2020 1st Maybe through in Tyramkins rights to seal the deal anything else you want to give up for him? team plane? more prospects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, XxS3E3DI2N2SxX said: anything else you want to give up for him? team plane? more prospects? the plane is a lease, so no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 hours ago, TNucks1 said: yeah, i hope we wouldnt do that either, considering he's most likely going to Hit free agency at the end of the year. And Jake is already a more complete player than Ferland. There is that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: And Jake is already a more complete player than Ferland. There is that too. You are on fire with the ridiculous posts today! I wish I had your job that lets you drink so early in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, XxS3E3DI2N2SxX said: anything else you want to give up for him? team plane? more prospects? Maybe Pettersson can get them a discount at Capilano Audi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 6:37 PM, Pete M said: idk, I still want him to play with some playmakers, so I'm not ready to part with him yet...he needs to be played more; same as Goldy. It's hard watching the likes of Sutter, Granlund, LE and others being played more with no results....what's Sutter now -12 down from -8 after coming back from injury. I'd play Jake and Goldy regular minutes with PP time to the end of the season and would sit Granlund, Schaller, LE, Motte and others so that those two can play....give both of them more minutes to see what we have, then next year make the decision whether to cut bait or keep fishing. ...I would not do Ferland straight up for Jake because Ferland is injury prone and I've witnessed him sputter with the Flames playing with Gaudreau and Monahan...stay well clear of Ferland. ...if it is known that Tryamkin is coming back, I would not necessarily trade Jake for a dman ...possibly a trade for a player that EP40 might have chemistry with such as Lias Anderson (NYR) or Andre Burakovsky (Wash 6'2" 201 Ibs)... I'd build my team around EP40...Ferland is big tough and can produce on the score sheet and I guy to protect EP40, but he is injury prone. Injury prone is the reason, I would stay away from him. A player that could have chemistry with EP40 is what I would be looking for if they are looking to trade Jake. what about Poolparty straight up....gives both of them a fresh start? what would you want for him?? Im not trading Jake unless we get a right shot blue chip defender back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 23 hours ago, Provost said: You are on fire with the ridiculous posts today! I wish I had your job that lets you drink so early in the day. Which of the two, Jake or Ferland, is the more responsible defensively? Clearly it's Jake. Jake also skates way better than Ferland, and has better skills. Ferland fights better. I would rather have Jake, because Jake is the more complete player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer53 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 As good as this seems on paper, you only pick up a guy like Ferland when you're making a run. It's going to cost too many picks or prospects to get him. Jim Benning so far has proven to be a solid GM at the draft table, and I'd rather he play to his strengths than throw away a possible future superstar for a pricey pending UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:30 PM, Alflives said: And Jake is already a more complete player than Ferland. There is that too. I'm going to safely assume you're joking/trolling....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 JB has said he won't trade our future. So no, we won't be trading for Ferland unless we can get him for subpar players like goldy and pouliot. And that won't happen as other teams will offer much better players. I would be ok trying to sign him for free in the summer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, surfer53 said: As good as this seems on paper, you only pick up a guy like Ferland when you're making a run. It's going to cost too many picks or prospects to get him. Jim Benning so far has proven to be a solid GM at the draft table, and I'd rather he play to his strengths than throw away a possible future superstar for a pricey pending UFA. I have to agree with this. People focus so much on getting these players to protect our other players, but as soon as we pick one up and they don't protect our other players, we go to the next player who we "should sign" to protect our players.... whom ultimately doesn't protect our players. It's almost as if these players are COACHED to WIN GAMES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 ..just for comparison, looking at stats (keep in mind, Ferland played on the top line (often) and more minutes on both teams, compared to Jake} 2018/2019 2017/2018 vs Jake 2018/20192017/2018 Jake is improving compared to last year (playing on the 3rd and 4th lines...) Ferland stats are ~0.6/ game (usually on the 1st and 2nd lines) when healthy...not bad, but it's a hard pass... imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Pete M said: ..just for comparison, looking at stats (keep in mind, Ferland played on the top line (often) and more minutes on both teams, compared to Jake} 2018/2019 2017/2018 vs Jake 2018/20192017/2018 Jake is improving compared to last year (playing on the 3rd and 4th lines...) Ferland stats are ~0.6/ game (usually on the 1st and 2nd lines) when healthy...not bad, but it's a hard pass... imo If we can get Ferland for relatively cheap then yea go for it but he’s not worth multiple picks and/or prospects. Might as well go after Panarin if we’re giving up a boat load for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I’d rather pass on ferklund. Wait until free agency and add without giving up assets. I’d preferably use ufa $$ on a Dman as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I'll pass on Ferland, too many hits to the head, his career may be over by age 30. I'd rather see what we have in Zack MacEwen plus maybe add a UFA like Brock Nelson or Anders Lee from the Islanders to play on Petey's left wing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentSam Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I think that’s great news for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, SilentSam said: I think that’s great news for us. Crappy for them though considering what they gave up to acquire him. Never mind that they're not currently even in the playoffs to require an 'own rental'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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