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A player and his coach say the shaming of a sexual assault survivor is what sparked an intense brawl between the two Nova Scotia university men's hockey teams during a game in Wolfville, N.S. on Saturday, but the other team disputes this.

Sam Studnicka, a player with St. Francis Xavier University X-Men, and his coach, Brad Peddle, on Monday released statements about the fight with Axemen players from Acadia University.

Studnicka said the comment was made to him by a member of the Axemen, during the third period of the game. He said he told Peddle, who addressed it with the on-ice officials and the head coach of Acadia.

Studnicka said he was "completely shocked" when minutes later the opposing player was sent to take a faceoff with him. 

The brawl started soon after.

Studnicka did not identify the opposing player, the sexual assault survivor, or specify what was said. 

 

 

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He said in his three years playing hockey, he's faced similar "insulting and derogatory comments on the ice." 

"It has taken an emotional toll on me."

He said players from the Axemen team have "elicited repeated on-ice comments directed towards me" and that it "has been frustrating."

A few videos of the fight were uploaded to YouTube.

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I put the video behind a spoiler tag since there is a lot of swearing.

 

Lord, I wish the guy holding the camera would STFU too.

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So here most of us are in 2019, while a few Neanderthals are stuck in time. :(

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Unfortunately, some players feel it's necessary to do or say just about anything to get their opponents off their game. This has been going on in hockey, at every level, for decades. Hockey isn't meant for sensitive people

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I know all about the on ice antics of young males. Try being asian growing up in a small northern BC town in the 80's and 90's. The most racist guys were usually the ones on your own team. And they wondered why I quit after bantams. I couldn't get through one period without being called a gook, chink or rice eater. What hurt most was it came form our own bench most of the time.

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31 minutes ago, Shift-4 said:

in my last game I slashed a guy three times

He came back at me and called me a bitch. Instead of being insulted I took it as a compliment since dogs are better than people.

Brawl averted.

Not really comparable lol

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When I was growing up my Dad always said there are A-HOLES in every nationality you just have to pick your friends wisely.

Some rather ignorant people just don't get that there is a line, you cross it and YOU SIR ARE A RACIST PRI$%K.

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4 hours ago, SergioMomesso said:

I know all about the on ice antics of young males. Try being asian growing up in a small northern BC town in the 80's and 90's. The most racist guys were usually the ones on your own team. And they wondered why I quit after bantams. I couldn't get through one period without being called a gook, chink or rice eater. What hurt most was it came form our own bench most of the time.

Are you full oriental or half like Jett Woo?

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, SergioMomesso said:

I know all about the on ice antics of young males. Try being asian growing up in a small northern BC town in the 80's and 90's. The most racist guys were usually the ones on your own team. And they wondered why I quit after bantams. I couldn't get through one period without being called a gook, chink or rice eater. What hurt most was it came form our own bench most of the time.

Dude, that totally sucks. I grew up playing all kinds of sports in that era, and it may just be where I grew up, but we never tolerated racist BS. 

 

Pretty much everybody got called all sorts of homophobic names though, everybody, so we were never really very sensitive to it and returned the favour as often as possible.

 

I've noticed my son's age group has starting chirping on the ice/field and it's all "you're a &^@#ing $&!#" "stupid baby" "loser" type stuff. Nothing derogatory yet...

 

Anyways, I'm sorry those &^@#ers up north were racists. That must have sucked

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Just now, SergioMomesso said:

99%

Think that's bad?

 

I had a teammate who was a half Jap...

 

His Dad was white and he had a European last name.

 

He even looked more white from behind his helmet cage.

 

That didn't stop the rich, spoiled kids from the North Shore Winter club.

 

They were all white team as you can imagine, and they taunted him throughout the game, until he came to the bench and started sobbing.

 

He refused to go back on the ice.

 

He said they called me a Jap.

 

That same game a native guy on our team was called a "stinkin' fukcin Hindu".

 

The mouths on these teenage kids was amazing.

 

So your story is not unique.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Chip Kelly said:

Think that's bad?

 

I had a teammate who was a half Jap...

 

His Dad was white and he had a European last name.

 

He even looked more white from behind his helmet cage.

 

That didn't stop the rich, spoiled kids from the North Shore Winter club.

 

They were all white team as you can imagine, and they taunted him throughout the game, until he came to the bench and started sobbing.

 

He refused to go back on the ice.

 

He said they called me a Jap.

 

That same game a native guy on our team was called a "stinkin' fukcin Hindu".

 

The mouths on these teenage kids was amazing.

 

So your story is not unique.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No it isn’t. It still goes on to this day with just about any team sport.  What bothers me today is how lots of adults talk the grown up game but let their own kids run their mouths however they want to and think it’s just kids being kids. Or like those boys in Ontario who the teachers and coaches said it’s just boys being boys. 

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30 minutes ago, SergioMomesso said:

No it isn’t. It still goes on to this day with just about any team sport.  What bothers me today is how lots of adults talk the grown up game but let their own kids run their mouths however they want to and think it’s just kids being kids. Or like those boys in Ontario who the teachers and coaches said it’s just boys being boys. 

I would never tolerate my kids being disrespectul to any other kid.... 

I would have lost my shi.....  if i ever saw , heard.....   any of that BS,   

 

My kids were taught from day 1 that you need to treat others with respect at all times.

 

Having said that i am a d... on the ice but that is mostly slash and hack to all opponents regardless of ethnic background or sexual identity / preference.....

I treat them all the same...  slash and hack to each...     No favours given. 

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HALIFAX - The body that oversees university sports in Atlantic Canada has suspended two head coaches and 15 players after an ugly hockey brawl that spread from the ice to both squad's benches.

Atlantic University Sport announced the suspensions today after members of the Acadia Axemen and St. FX X-Men fought during a game in Wolfville, N.S., on Saturday.

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Six Acadia players and nine from the X-Men were handed automatic suspensions ranging in length from two to five games and totalling 39 games.

The suspensions also apply to the two head coaches and are effective immediately.

AUS executive director Phil Currie has also filed official complaints on five athletes and three coaches involved in Saturday's incident after reviewing video evidence.

That means they will be subject to a secondary review process, which will involve the AUS sport chair "gathering additional evidence and speaking directly with players, officials and coaches involved to determine where more severe sanctions are warranted."

It will also look into allegations the fight may have been sparked by a derogatory comment related to a sexual assault survivor that was made to an X-Men player.

The fight occurred in the third period of the game, leading to the ejection of five Axemen players, eight X-Men and both head coaches.

Videos posted to social media show players on both teams hurling profanities, striking each other and grabbing each other's jerseys near the Acadia bench during the brawl.

On Monday, St. FX issued a statement alleging the brawl was instigated by a derogatory comment related to a sexual assault survivor that was made to an X-Men player. A few hours later, Acadia issued its own statement, saying the information it had gathered was not consistent with allegations made by St. FX.

Acadia is scheduled to play at Saint Mary's University tonight, while St. FX is set to return to action Friday at the University of New Brunswick.

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On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 6:56 PM, Chip Kelly said:

Think that's bad?

 

I had a teammate who was a half Jap...

 

His Dad was white and he had a European last name.

 

He even looked more white from behind his helmet cage.

 

That didn't stop the rich, spoiled kids from the North Shore Winter club.

 

They were all white team as you can imagine, and they taunted him throughout the game, until he came to the bench and started sobbing.

 

He refused to go back on the ice.

 

He said they called me a Jap.

 

That same game a native guy on our team was called a "stinkin' fukcin Hindu".

 

The mouths on these teenage kids was amazing.

 

So your story is not unique.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bullying alleged at elite North Vancouver hockey club; coach quits in protest over handling of allegations

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Published: February 6, 2019

Updated: February 6, 2019 4:51 PM PST

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The North Shore Winter Club is at the centre of bullying allegations that led to the resignation of one of the coaches, who said the teams lacked discipline.

The North Shore Winter Club is at the centre of bullying allegations that led to the resignation of one of the coaches, who said the teams lacked discipline. Gerry Kahrmann / PNG

Various sources have described the incidents as constituting assault, sexual assault, bullying, harassment, hazing, humiliation or abuse

A significant locker room bullying incident at an elite North Vancouver minor hockey program — and concerns over how the club has dealt with it — has resulted in parents cancelling their memberships, the head coach resigning in protest over the club’s response, and a police investigation, the National Post has learned.

Various sources have described the incidents as constituting assault, sexual assault, bullying, harassment, hazing, humiliation or abuse, and the allegations were serious enough that the head coach and his assistant both wanted the two accused players kicked off the team.

However, after an appeal from the parents of the alleged perpetrators, senior management at the club — the prestigious North Shore Winter Club, a private members-only facility that counts many former NHL stars among its alumni — significantly reduced their punishment to short suspensions.

When contacted by the Post, Brad Rihela confirmed he quit as head coach in January over a dispute over disciplinary measures but did not wish to discuss the specific nature of the incidents.

People are terrified of repercussions

 

“The coach’s job is to create a culture, and the way this was handled didn’t fall in line with my beliefs and values. At the end of the day, I removed myself from the situation because someone had to take a stand,” Rihela said.

“I don’t think that these types of behaviours have any place in our game — or anywhere else, for that matter,” he said.

Other parents with children at NSWC are questioning the way the club’s leadership dealt with the matter. One parent told the Post he withdrew his child over the situation.

A parent of another child who plays hockey at the club, who did not want his name published — partly to protect his child and partly out of concern for repercussions from hockey officials — said the club’s priority appeared to be covering up the incident rather than addressing it. “It terrifies me, as a parent,” he said.

He said people are reluctant to speak out for fear of damaging their child’s prospects at the prestigious club.

“People are terrified of repercussions in terms of try-outs and making teams. They are afraid to make waves.”

In a statement to the Post Wednesday, the club confirmed that two players had been suspended and that following a thorough investigation, a disciplinary committee concluded there had been “two incidents of bullying.”

“The NSWC Board is aware that there are unfortunate rumours circulating and our desire is to remind everyone that rumours based on inaccurate information can be very damaging to those involved.”

The club sent a similar statement to its members Wednesday after receiving the Post’s inquiries.

Presented with a summary of what the Post understands is alleged to have taken place, a lawyer representing the family of one of the players who was suspended said the information was “completely at odds with reality.”

“It’s evident from your email that you’ve been given false information including defamatory misinformation,” said Roger McConchie.

The statement from the club said the victim’s family brought the complaint to the club. Reached at his doorstep this week, the father of the alleged victim — who still plays on the team — said he was unable to comment because of an ongoing “police investigation.”

Mark Rowan, a lawyer representing the family, later clarified in an email: “We have been informed that there is an RCMP investigation underway. My clients did not contact the RCMP. Somebody else did so.”

Sgt Peri Mainwaring, a North Vancouver RCMP spokesperson, said in an email the agency could only confirm an investigation was underway if charges were laid. “Also, when a youth(s) are involved we must be especially cognizant of their privacy.”

According to three sources with knowledge of the incident, the investigation or the club’s handling of it, the altercation took place in the team’s dressing room after an on-ice practice on Dec. 10.

As the players were undressing, a player allegedly held a teammate in a headlock and touched the teammate’s buttocks in an indecent manner, according to allegations made to the club.

I don’t know if it’s hazing, if it’s assault

 

Later interviews the club conducted with several players produced some variations in the description and nature of the type of contact with the buttocks.

The boy allegedly called out repeatedly for it to stop. There were no staff or other adults present at the time.

Soon after, during what is called dry-land training — meaning off-ice training in the weight room — the same boy was allegedly accosted again, by a different teammate, who allegedly was grabbing or trying to grab the boy’s nipples.

The incident has sparked comparisons with the scandal last year at St. Michael’s College School in Toronto, a prestigious Catholic all-boys school, that saw several students arrested after an alleged locker room sexual assault circulated on social media.

However, the club has denied there was a “sexual” component to either incident.

Founded in 1958, at least 32 current or former NHL players have skated with the club as youngsters over the years, including Hockey Hall of Famers Brett Hull, Joe Sakic and Paul Kariya, and current San Jose Sharks star Evander Kane.

While the club has a rich history, its Bantam Elite Team is new, created to extend the level of professional hockey development at the club to players 13 and 14 years old. The players on the elite team are considered among the best at the club and must earn a spot on the roster. The team’s inaugural season began in September.

The pitch is simple: young Vancouver-area athletes eyeing a hockey career can still live at home, stay at their school, endure less travel, while still getting professional coaching and participating in AAA tournaments.

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The incident at North Shore Winter Club has sparked some comparisons with the scandal last year at St. Michael’s College School in Toronto. Tijana Martin/The Canadian Press/File

However, the players and families also need to give up a lot of time and money. The team has four practices and three gym sessions a week, on top of their tournaments and games, while the estimated program fee when the team was launched was $6,000 — not including the cost of attending tournaments, meals, hotels and transportation.

On an afternoon this week just prior to one of the team’s scheduled practice, a steady stream of cars and SUVs circled through the North Shore Winter Club’s driveway while children disembarked with hockey gear. Staff told a reporter who asked for permission to observe the practice that the club was open to members and guests only.

The promotional material for the NSWC elite team emphasizes character and respect as well as athletics.

Its core belief, according to the club’s public materials is that “Hockey should reinforce the value of being a good citizen, teammate and have a positive impact on the quality of life athletes enjoy after leaving the NSWC program.”

“We strive to create an environment that will produce well-rounded young hockey players, both on and off the ice. Education, leadership, respect and strong work ethic describe our Elite program philosophy.”

Tyson Mulock, Rihela’s former assistant coach who has taken over as head coach, told the Post he and Rihela were “shocked and appalled” when they first heard of the allegations.

Because of differing witness accounts, Mulock says it’s difficult to characterize what happened that day.

“That’s a really tricky question. I’ve tried to look at it from so many views. … I don’t know if it’s hazing, if it’s assault,” he said.

“Do I think something happened? Yeah. Do I think it was intentional? No. But do I think it went way too far? Yeah. Do I think these kids should be on the team anymore? No.”

We strive to create an environment that will produce well-rounded young hockey players, both on and off the ice

 

Mulock said he and Rihela were in lockstep from the beginning that the punishment should be swift. “We thought both kids should’ve been booted off the team. No questions asked. Done. Over.”

He says they were saddened to learn their recommendation was overturned.

“Do I feel that this stuff was handled poorly? Absolutely I do. I’m on the record with saying that with the club,” he said. “We’re around these kids all the time. People that make the decisions aren’t.”

Instead, the club allowed the players back on the team after a brief suspension: about one month and three weeks for the boy named in the dressing room incident, and about four weeks for the boy in the weight room incident.

While the boys served their suspension they allegedly retained access to the club’s facilities and amenities, including participating in open ice skate times, a source said.

Rihela said the appeal decision was the wrong one.

“What kind of message are we trying to send? There is only one way to deal with these situations — we have to teach them to respect the person beside them,” he said.

In its statement, however, the club said its officials acted promptly and thoroughly to the complaint.

“In mid-December, a NSWC family reported that they believed their son was targeted by two other players. The family specifically requested that the club investigate the matter and requested that the club not contact the authorities. The club respected these requests.

“NSWC acted decisively. The coach suspended two players and when the club was notified of the allegations, the NSWC immediately formed a disciplinary committee and upheld the suspensions while the committee investigated.”

After the disciplinary committee concluded there were two incidents of bullying, “Discipline was bestowed, which included further suspension from team play, writing apology letters, and undergoing a professional anti-bullying session. We feel they have learned from their actions, understand the harm, and we do not expect this to be repeated. The suspensions have been served and the two boys have been reinstated.”

Since taking over as head coach, Mulock says he has enacted a new code of conduct.

“Just trying to make sure these guys are accountable for their actions and how they behave and how they work on and off the ice, how they treat fellow teammates,” he said.

He said he also stressed to his players that they can come to him anytime to talk.

Some parents, however, remain uneasy.

One who spoke to the Post on the condition of confidentiality said the circumstances are extremely upsetting.

“I believe there should always be zero tolerance for misbehaviour like this,” he said. He said he supports Rihela’s decision to take a strong stand by quitting.

“His actions do speak loudly. It’s important to safeguard the ideals of sport.”

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Player stands up and admits:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/axemen-player-takes-responsibility-for-brawl/ar-BBTjsXE?ocid=spartandhp

Acadia University's Rodney Southam admitted to making a comment about sexual assault to an opposing player during a physical confrontation when playing against the St. Francis Xavier X-Men on Saturday night.

Southam claims in a statement issued late Thursday night to have been unaware that Sam Studnicka, the target of his comment, has a sexual assault survivor in his family.

"Immediately after my comments to Sam, I realized something more was happening because of the reaction from the team and surrounding coaches," said Southam. "I know when this was said that the linesman heard it and so did the X-Men players on their bench. I take full responsibility for saying something I should never have said."

Southam said he told Studnicka "You look like a little (expletive) rapist." Minutes later, Southam and Studnicka were to take a faceoff against each other, but after two false starts, the melee began.

The brawl led to five Axemen players, eight X-Men and both head coaches being ejected. Video of the fight went viral.

Atlantic University Sport, which oversees university sport in the region, launched an investigation and suspended the two head coaches and 15 players on Wednesday. During the investigation Southam told AUS executive director Phil Currie of his role in the incident.

The AUS and St. Francis Xavier University did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Thursday night.

Studnicka, through his university, issued a statement on Monday explaining he had regularly been targeted with comments about sexual assault in his three years playing for St. FX.

He said there's no place for comments about sexual assault in society as it's a very serious issue.

Southam, who was captain for two seasons with the Western Hockey League's Kelowna Rockets, said he was completely unaware of Studnicka's relationship to a sexual assault survivor.

"In my year and a half at Acadia, we've had battles with St. FX but nothing to do with comments around sexual violence," he said. "I've read in the St. FX statement that those types of comments have been a continuous and ongoing part of the games between our teams, but this issue has never come up in our locker room or any other time during my year and a half at Acadia."

Southam also explained in his statement that when he was playing junior hockey he was accused of sexual assault but allegations against him didn't proceed.

He said he carries those allegations with him and is frequently the target of taunts calling him a rapist.

"Because the taunts I endured are never far below the surface and are always in the back of my mind, that's why I think I said what I said in the heat of the moment on Saturday," Southam said. "I do know I wish I could take that word back and I should have known better."

Official complaints have been filed by the AUS on five athletes and three coaches involved in Saturday's incident and will be subject to a secondary review process.

Additional evidence will be gathered to determine if further sanctions are needed.

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Unsportsmanlike conduct 2 minutes for inflammatory bullsh*t. Call it.

Especially for the youth teams. Coaches, parents and refs should control that crap.

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It's really so sad when people resort to flat out hatred...it shows a total lack of control and impulse.  I used to see parents in the stands at kids' games that were so ridiculous.  The stuff they screamed at 10 year olds was appalling.

 

It's one thing to trash talk...it's another to try to twist a knife designated for pain.  Disgusting.

 

I agree that the adults need to rein this in and set the tone.

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Another hockey story, this one involving too swift "justice"

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/fort-mcmurray-hockey-team-forfeits-season-after-backlash-over-disrespectful-video/ar-BBTCY9e?ocid=spartandhp

An uproar in Fort McMurray, Alta., over a viral video that some considered racist has led to a minor hockey team forfeiting the remainder of its season because of safety concerns.

Parents of players on the Fort McMurray Midget 'A' Junior Oil Barons issued a statement this week strongly criticizing the "brash actions" of the Fort McMurray Minor Hockey Association after an online video surfaced last month showing young hockey players dancing to the song Electric Pow Wow Drum by A Tribe Called Red.

"The video showed a few team members, some of them Indigenous, engaging in a motivational dance," the parents said in their statement, issued Wednesday. "This was not intended as a derogatory or racist act."

The parents said they are telling their side of the story after "failed attempts" to come to a resolution with the minor hockey association.

On Jan. 21, hours after the video surfaced online, the association issued a media release saying it was "devastated" by the players' actions in their "disrespectful" video.

"It is wrong and will not be tolerated. The display of ignorance is sad and gravely unfortunate," association president Travis Galenzoski said in the statement. "These players will know how deeply impactful their wrong actions are."

The statement no longer appears on the association's website or social media feeds.

Players received death threats

In their own statement, the parents said the hockey association's actions "contributed to team members receiving death threats, threats of harm, and humiliating and degrading comments about them on social media."

At least one team member had a "police presence" after the hockey association's statement, "in direct response to threats made against them."

The parents said the hockey association failed to consult with anyone from the team before publicly condemning the video and the players' actions.

"FMMHA's media statement was released within three hours of the video surfacing," the parents said. 

"This action, coupled with the failure to contact any staff member on the video about the video, demonstrated a lack of thorough investigation to the facts of the video and breached the fiduciary duty it owes to its players in looking after their safety and best interests."

The hockey association identified the team name, allowing people to "identify, locate and publish personal information about the players on the team, as well as their upcoming schedule for the remainder of the season," the parents said.

Shane Kearney, the father of a player not in the video, told CBC News the video was meant "as a way to pump the boys up before the game.

"We felt like they [the association] owed the boys a public apology."

Roxanne James, a parent whose son was also not in the video, said players had to deal with threats and criticism.

"They were ridiculed," she said. "They were humiliated."

CBC has sought comment from the association but has not heard back.

The video shows players, some in skates and Junior Oil Barons hockey uniforms, dancing to the tune. One player uses the lid of a garbage can as a drum, striking it with a hockey stick. Some laughter is heard in the background.

CBC has chosen not to publish the full video because the players range between the ages of 15 to 18.

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'They were ridiculed. They were humiliated'

In another statement on Jan. 23, a lawyer for the McKay Métis Association said two boys in the video are Indigenous.

Dwayne Roth said the boys were pow-wow dancing in the locker room before the game and the dance was intended to reflect their culture and motivate the team.

"Rush to judgment based on out of context video clips is becoming all too common and poses real danger to the reputation and safety of those incorrectly labelled."

In their statement, the parents said they decided to forfeit the remainder of the season because it was "too dangerous" for the players, their families and others involved.

The team forfeited a total of six games, including two scheduled for this weekend.

The team has paid a $2,100 penalty for dropping out but has decided to take part in provincial play-downs "in hopes to end the season on a positive note."

The parents slammed the hockey association for ignoring "one of the basic tenets of today's inclusive and tolerant societal norms, namely, not understanding the other side and rushing to a rash, often incorrect, judgment."

 

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